Nashville Predators Luke Prokop becomes first NHL player to come out as gay

[FresnoGator]

Predators prospect Luke Prokop becomes first player on active NHL contract to come out as gay

"I am no longer scared to hide who I am," Prokop said in an announcement post.

sports.yahoo.com

Hey, good for him. Live and let live.

The thing that makes this noteworthy is that he's the first Predator to come out since Kevin Spacey ...

@StevieBGator
@LTGator

 

[blubo]

And he feels he needs to announce his sexual preferences to the public because…why?

 

[jfegaly]

@gator1776 new meat for you.

 

[gator1776]

@gator1776 new meat for you.

Don’t be jelly, I just got tired of you crying in pain every time I used you.

 

[fatman76]

And he feels he needs to announce his sexual preferences to the public because…why?

Because look how brave he is. So brave.

 

[BillCutting4585]

@BSC911 is the first member on this board to come out as gay as well

 

[gatordad3]

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

And he feels he needs to announce his sexual preferences to the public because…why?

Ask Lance Bass.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

And he feels he needs to announce his sexual preferences to the public because…why?

Because Christians keep pushing their beliefs on everyone. Or....something.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

UGH and preds admin fell all over themselves praising the guy...its one player I will NOT be rooting for...not because he is gay but because he feels the need to promote his sin.

 

[EvilWayz]

I do not think hundreds of child hockey players are going to turn gay cuz one guy came out.

 

[NavigatorII]

Anyone here remember ESPN running a batch down their leg over this guy?
(SEC related). I don't GAF but it's not the Medal of Honor. Eesh.

Michael Sam Seems to Be Completely Done With Football in 2020

Michael Sam was the first openly gay player to be drafted by an NFL team. However, he never played in an actual game and has since retired.

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[BamaFan1137]

I do not think hundreds of child hockey players are going to turn gay cuz one guy came out.

I don't disagree with your premise but that's a strawman argument.

No one said that he would cause hundreds of cases of the gays.

 

[EvilWayz]

I don't disagree with your premise but that's a strawman argument.

No one said that he would cause hundreds of cases of the gays.

Then I don't see what the big deal is one way or the other. Bully for him.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Then I don't see what the big deal is one way or the other. Bully for him.

He specifically said what the big deal was for him.

You shoot a basketball, throw a baseball, catch a football or slap a puck....WGAS what you do with your naughty bits. Just be whatever. If it's a sin, it's between you and your maker.

I don't understand the need to celebrate an athlete for telling us his sexual preference...either way.

 

[EvilWayz]

He specifically said what the big deal was for him.

I've never understood that.

Then again, I don't have to hide who I am.

Perhaps one day no one will give a shit.

 

[FresnoGator]

He specifically said what the big deal was for him.

You shoot a basketball, throw a baseball, catch a football or slap a puck....WGAS what you do with your naughty bits. Just be whatever. If it's a sin, it's between you and your maker.

I don't understand the need to celebrate an athlete for telling us his sexual preference...either way.

Only reason I posted this was because the Predator / Kevin Spacey line was just too good to pass up ...

 

[BillCutting4585]

Only reason I posted this was because the Predator / Kevin Spacey line was just too good to pass up ...

@BSC911 idol is Kevin Spacey

 

[BSC911]

All the homophobes posting ITT. Shocking.

You keep your sexual preferences to yourself, young man. Unless talking about all the pussy you’ve grabbed. That’s perfectly fine.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I've never understood that.

Then again, I don't have to hide who I am.

Perhaps one day no one will give a shit.

I don't know that I would go as far as saying that no one should GAS but personally I recognize that I can't change people, even if I think I should, and that my best course of action is to simply love someone if I think they're in trouble.

But, ftr, I do think we should get away from bashing or praising people over their sexual preferences.

 

[NavigatorII]

All the homophobes posting ITT. Shocking.

You keep your sexual preferences to yourself, young man. Unless talking about all the pussy you’ve grabbed. That’s perfectly fine.

And there he is!

 

[Mdfgator]

I don't disagree with your premise but that's a strawman argument.

No one said that he would cause hundreds of cases of the gays

If it's a choice this certainly would help the cause. Of couse the idea that being gay is a choice is so moronic it's hard to fathom.... no offense intended.

 

[BamaFan1137]

If it's a choice this certainly would help the cause. Of couse the idea that being gay is a choice is so moronic it's hard to fathom.... no offense intended.

The idea that it is not a choice is moronic imho.

I don't care either way however.

 

[FresnoGator]

The idea that it is not a choice is moronic imho.

I don't care either way however.

The gay guys I have spoken with have said their lives would have been so much easier it they were straight, like night and day easier ...

 

[BamaFan1137]

The gay guys I have spoken with have said their lives would have been so much easier it they were straight, like night and day easier ...

People who abuse drugs tell me the same thing.

No, I'm not equating drug abuse to homosexuality rather that people do often choose to do things that make their lives more difficult.

 

[EvilWayz]

The gay guys I have spoken with have said their lives would have been so much easier it they were straight, like night and day easier ...

I can't imagine anyone , barring severe sexual abuse, choosing to be gay. Or Trans.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I can't imagine anyone , barring severe sexual abuse, choosing to be gay. Or Trans.

Can you imagine people making choices that do in fact make their lives more difficult?

I've run into this debate before. People often choose the harder route...on purpose. I don't pretend to know why. However, simply saying that it's difficult to be gay and ergo no one would actually choose that is a formal fallacy and a non sequitur.

No offense intended, we simply disagree on this point.

 

[FresnoGator]

People who abuse drugs tell me the same thing.

No, I'm not equating drug abuse to homosexuality rather that people do often choose to do things that make their lives more difficult.

I agree that people often make poor choices that ultimately make their lives more difficult, but I do not believe that homosexuality is a matter of choice for the majority of gays. Agree to disagree ...

 

[EvilWayz]

Can you imagine people making choices that do in fact make their lives more difficult?

This is not one of those. This is choosing against science and sanity.

No offense intended, we simply disagree on this point.

Yup.

 

[BamaFan1137]

This is not one of those.

Why?

This is choosing against science and sanity.

In what way?

Is it just because? Is there some reason that it's not possible that people make a choice that I'm unaware of?

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Predators prospect Luke Prokop becomes first player on active NHL contract to come out as gay

"I am no longer scared to hide who I am," Prokop said in an announcement post.

sports.yahoo.com

Hey, good for him. Live and let live.

The thing that makes this noteworthy is that he's the first Predator to come out since Kevin Spacey ...

@StevieBGator
@LTGator

I think no more of a homosexual than a kleptomaniac. You claim you are conditioned to sin and take no accountability for your actions only rationalization for committing sins.

 

[FresnoGator]

I think no more of a homosexual than a kleptomaniac. You claim you are conditioned to sin and take no accountability for your actions only rationalization for committing sins.

Well, that's one view ...

 

[EvilWayz]

Why?




In what way?

Is it just because? Is there some reason that it's not possible that people make a choice that I'm unaware of?

You are choosing against a biological imperative to procreate, that's why.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I can't imagine anyone , barring severe sexual abuse, choosing to be gay. Or Trans.

Well, whatever urges they have is not the problem. It's acting on those urges that's the choice. So, by your logic, if one had urges to molest a goat it is not a choice if they always felt the urge to molest animals.

 

[BamaFan1137]

You are choosing against a biological imperative to procreate, that's why.

Again, this is a non-sequitur.

Also, humans have a biological imperative to survive and avoid pain...and yet....

Humans defy biological imperatives on the reg.

I think the one thing lost in this debate (and it's my fault because I haven't stated it clearly) is that, either by choice or by nature, it does not matter. They are what they are. I don't get to say on their behalf. I don't hate them and I certainly mean them no harm.

I just don't buy in that it isn't a choice simply "because." For some people the lack of an apparent choice makes it easier for them to justify homosexual lifestyles. I don't have to justify their choices. It's absolutely none of my business. I'm charged with loving my brothers and sisters so I do.

Maybe I'm wrong. That's entirely possible. However, my lack of belief in born gay or not is not a judgment or hatred towards those who are gay. It's entirely irrelevant to the discussion imo. Relevant to other discussions? Sure.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Again, this is a non-sequitur.

Also, humans have a biological imperative to survive and avoid pain...and yet....

Humans defy biological imperatives on the reg.

I think the one thing lost in this debate (and it's my fault because I haven't stated it clearly) is that, either by choice or by nature, it does not matter. They are what they are. I don't get to say on their behalf. I don't hate them and I certainly mean them no harm.

I just don't buy in that it isn't a choice simply "because." For some people the lack of an apparent choice makes it easier for them to justify homosexual lifestyles. I don't have to justify their choices. It's absolutely none of my business. I'm charged with loving my brothers and sisters so I do.

Maybe I'm wrong. That's entirely possible. However, my lack of belief in born gay or not is not a judgment or hatred towards those who are gay. It's entirely irrelevant to the discussion imo. Relevant to other discussions? Sure.

The difference between humans and other animals is we have the ability to obey through conscience, morality, and critical thinking. We don't just act on natural urges (it's criminal in society) to get aroused and force another person to have sex. If we just cave to natural urges we are no more civilized than a baboon.

 

[FresnoGator]

The difference between humans and other animals is we have the ability to obey through conscience, morality, and critical thinking. We don't just act on natural urges (it's criminal in society) to get aroused and force another person to have sex. If we just cave to natural urges we are no more civilized than a baboon.

Hmmm, makes you wonder how many cavemen had game with the ladies or if procreation was often non-consensual?

 

[BamaFan1137]

Hmmm, makes you wonder how many cavemen had game with the ladies or if procreation was often non-consensual?

I have it on good authority that my caveman grandfather had game.

Ancestry.com has really stepped up lately.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Hmmm, makes you wonder how many cavemen had game with the ladies or if procreation was often non-consensual?

Unfortunately, women/children have been and are being abused as we communicate.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I have it on good authority that my caveman grandfather had game.

Ancestry.com has really stepped up lately.