Muschamp already on the hot seat...
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I initially thought that WM was a good hire.TX Head coach in waiting and a great DC.
When he hired Charlie Cheezzeburger as his OC I winced and began to wonder, and that only got worse over time. Even if he hired a competent OC he couldn't leave it alone for them to run it.
I kinda gave him a pass on the 4-8 season because of the 72 lost starts to injury. The 'natives' became restless after that making me expect that he would be fired sooner rather than later, even with the buyout.
His 'Incredible Hulk' BS on the sidelines is not HC material imo. (I also thought that it would take him a few years to mature into a HBC. I didn't want him fired (another year) but now (Mc) I'm glad that he was.
As to SOS at SCa, they had never had a single 11 win season in their entire history, and he gave them the SECe-C in 2010 along with three 11 win seasons in a row. That might not ever be duplicated again, and certainly not by the red-faced screamin' chump.
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Note: Spurrier was hired for the 1990 season, Wuerffel's UF career was from 1992 redshirted-1996 making it not in SOS's 4th year at UF. Danny graduated in 1991 from HS.
And Spurrier replaced Wuerffel with NFL D.Johnson, then NFL J.Palmer, then NFL R.Grossman.
Spurrier had 5 former QB's on NFL rosters at the same time. You know anyone else that's ever done that?
Replacing QB-DT Teobw, QB-PP J. Brantley in a spread-O, was injured out for the season- leg.
Replacing QB-PP Brantley, QB-DT J.Driskel in a PP-O, was injured out for the season - broken leg.
Do-Do Occurs. I'm certainly glad that the last 6 years are seemingly behind us now....
Mc wants to run mostly a PP offense and he has two 6-6 220 QB-PP QB's coming in for 2016.
Harris and Grier were both QB-DT's, with Grier having the much better arm.
When he hired Charlie Cheezzeburger as his OC I winced and began to wonder, and that only got worse over time. Even if he hired a competent OC he couldn't leave it alone for them to run it.
I kinda gave him a pass on the 4-8 season because of the 72 lost starts to injury. The 'natives' became restless after that making me expect that he would be fired sooner rather than later, even with the buyout.
His 'Incredible Hulk' BS on the sidelines is not HC material imo. (I also thought that it would take him a few years to mature into a HBC. I didn't want him fired (another year) but now (Mc) I'm glad that he was.
As to SOS at SCa, they had never had a single 11 win season in their entire history, and he gave them the SECe-C in 2010 along with three 11 win seasons in a row. That might not ever be duplicated again, and certainly not by the red-faced screamin' chump.
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Note: Spurrier was hired for the 1990 season, Wuerffel's UF career was from 1992 redshirted-1996 making it not in SOS's 4th year at UF. Danny graduated in 1991 from HS.
And Spurrier replaced Wuerffel with NFL D.Johnson, then NFL J.Palmer, then NFL R.Grossman.
Spurrier had 5 former QB's on NFL rosters at the same time. You know anyone else that's ever done that?
Replacing QB-DT Teobw, QB-PP J. Brantley in a spread-O, was injured out for the season- leg.
Replacing QB-PP Brantley, QB-DT J.Driskel in a PP-O, was injured out for the season - broken leg.
Do-Do Occurs. I'm certainly glad that the last 6 years are seemingly behind us now....
Mc wants to run mostly a PP offense and he has two 6-6 220 QB-PP QB's coming in for 2016.
Harris and Grier were both QB-DT's, with Grier having the much better arm.
Cannot believe anyone defends the neanderthal after the dumpster fir he oversaw for four years and left us. I believe he is an incompetent coach at yhe HBC/CIW level. But if people (USCe) want to ignorehis EPIC failures at UF and UTx, by all means, go right ahead
And yet you still think Rich Rod and Kevin Sumlin are the bomb after how many years of evidence arguing they're not?
I'm not big fans of Rich Rod or Sumlin but they are both much better than Muschamp. Not even close.
Well, the good news is that no matter what our individual and collective opinion of Muschamp might be, he gets another at bat. To prove someone wrong.
But we DO know that at Florida, he failed.
But we DO know that at Florida, he failed.
Not sure how this is even a discussion...WM is a terrible HC...Sumlin is a good HC...maybe not great but proven and good to say the least. RR is okay imo but way better than WM.. WM has been an epic failure as a head coach so far...not sure how that's even debatable.
RR never said he turned downed down USC. Where do get your misinformation from if he was not not quoted as saying that he turned down USC. He did tweet when he was flying back to Arizona that he would be coaching at Arizona in 2016. His AD in an attempt to minize the damage said that RR tuwned down USC. When asked directed the next day if he turned down USC RR replied he rather talk about Arizona job. USC is happy that he is coaching our program. I am sure that you will say that you are too so lets see how this plays out. Muschamp is putting together a good staff.
What staff? He put together a better staff at UF than he's putting together at USCe. How did that work out for him? He had guys like Dan Quinn, DJ Durkin, Travaris Robinson, Brad Lawing, Kurt Roper, etc and he still couldn't win at a place like UF. It isn't all about what kind of staff you put together. Tons of coaches have put together good staffs and still not done a good job.
Ron Zook had a pretty darn good staff while at UF and how did that work out for him? Fedora as OC, Strong as DC, etc.
How many folks remember the discredited report that last December, USCe offered the DC job the DC job and the HCIW job? It was only a few days after that report that Muschamp was offered and accepted the AU job.
Now it does not seem so implausible.
Now it does not seem so implausible.
At SC students are taught critical reading skills. The first thing that jumps out at you is the statement in the story " USC offered RR has been confirmed by the AD " but the story leaves out who made that claim. Actually no one made that claim. Not RR that is for sure when offered the chance to make that claim when he returned to Arizona. RR flew across the country to interview for another job. The AD had a potential mess on his hands and chose to lie his way of it. I can see where there is a good working relationship between RR and the AD. You all need to learn to read critically.
We will see how good you are at evaluating football staffs. Sorry but I will go with Muschamp's evaluation over yours. As I said we will see.
Good for you. He has now hired a lot of the same guys he had at Florida. How did that work out for him?
For example the guy he hired as special teams coach? That was the same guy he had at Florida. You might remember him. He coached Florida to a loss by a blocked punt that lost the game for Florida. Against.....USCe. That was the game that was the proverbial straw.
So, good luck with him.
nwflcock, we get it that you are excited about your new coach. You should be, a new staff coming in is always an exiting time. However, that coach failed pretty miserable here. You are not going to convince us otherwise, there is just too much past performance by which to judge him. Not sure what you are doing here other than trying to convince yourself it was a good hire.
He did fail at Florida that is for sure. He made a huge mistake in hiring Weis as OC. It would be interesting to learn what was his thinking on that one. Weis was a joke before that hiring at least by college fans but of course we think we know it all. I certainly would like to know what lead him to hire Weis. Again what does he know about his special teams coach. Special teams really laid an egg with the two special teams mistake in our 2014 game. I believe Muschamp tried to be too hands on with the offense while at Florida. Hopefully he has learn his lesson on that. If he has learned and his offense's staff works well together he could do well at USC. He must learn to channel his emotions as HC during games. The AD will work with him on that. As HC you must focus on managing the game and leave the pumping up of the team to the staff.
After the Florida lost in 2014 to USC SOS really express sadness not for USC winning but for Muschamp. SOS thinks highly of him. Sure would like to know more about their relationship. Football is interesting both during game and especially what happens off the field. Georgia made the big push to switch to Smart I believe in part to their belief that USC would be going after Smart. It will be very interesting to see how the coaches at Florida, Georgia and South Carolina do in 2016 and over the next 4 years.
I can tell you how South Carolina is going to do over the next 4 years. Your not going to be very good and hover around the bottom of the SEC East. Outside of Holtz and Spurrier isn't that traditionally where South Carolina is at? Do you think Muschamp is any better than those coaches?
Not sure how much you can blame on Weis either. The offense got progressively worse each year under Muschamp.
Your opinion will be given the weight it deserves. It will be an interesting 2016. Good luck to the Gators!
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I can assure you I'm not the only one that has this opinion. In fact the only people in the entire country that think it was a good hire are homer South Carolina fans. Whether you wantt to admit it or not the hire has been harshly critized by many national media and the press all over the country. Heck even you have to admit all the above that is hasnt been a popular well received hire. I wish you the best of luck in 2016 and beyond. Your certainly going to need it.
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Bro, you're missing the point. Muschamp is extremely overrated. He couldn't stop the run against Ga Southern. They threw 3 passes the entire game. Let me start by saying that I grew up in North Florida but I went to USC during the Holtz years and I understand the challenges in finding talent within the state. Travaris Robinson, your best recruiter, is your best coach on staff and I think you're going to be disappointed in his HC abilities. This hire was solely based on the defensive struggles over the last few years. While your defense might step up, I see your offense going down the gutter. Maybe Roper can actually use his scheme without Muschamp trying to run the football down everyone's throat.
And just an FYI... Anyone giving credit to our Defense forgets Dan Quinn's schemes (1st year) and DJ Durkin's recruiting from the Meyer era. Muschamp couldn't stop the Ga Southern triple option, he won't be able to stop the Citadels. Good luck to you and I hope you prove me wrong.
Here's what's amazing about this hire on top of everything else we know. The Cocks couldn't beat us. Just. Could. Not. They go 1-19 vs the Gators in their first 20 years in the SEC. Then they have utterly no problem beating up on Chump going 3-1 against us in his 4 years.....yes three times as many victories in 4 years as the previous TWENTY YEARS under three different Gator head coaches.
Then they hire the one freaking guy at UF that they could consistently beat! Hilarious!
Then they hire the one freaking guy at UF that they could consistently beat! Hilarious!
BINGO! They don't want to admit that they hired that guy.Here's what's amazing about this hire on top of everything else we know. The Cocks couldn't beat us. Just. Could. Not. They go 1-19 vs the Gators in their first 20 years in the SEC. Then they have utterly no problem beating up on Chump going 3-1 against us in his 4 years.....yes three times as many victories in 4 years as the previous TWENTY YEARS under three different Gator head coaches.
Then they hire the one freaking guy at UF that they could consistently beat! Hilarious!
