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Dark days are ahead. I really hope Trump has a plan for us. We must not let this continue any longer
 
I dare any of you lefties try to justify this
It’s amazing that in less than a century we’ve gone from blacklisting communist to blacklisting capitalist and Patriots
 
It’s sad, we’re literally seeing the first amendment whither away
Depends on how fat dumb and happy they can keep Americans. If they’re not careful though whittle away too fast and then if we’re not all careful we’re looking at a bloody revolution or worse. I guess I have to stop talking like this I don’t want to be an early martyr.
 
It’s sad, we’re literally seeing the first amendment whither away
The fact their doing on the backs of the actions of a few hundred people, many who were politely let in and most acted politely during the "insurrection" is bad...but it's much worse that they are able to sell it to their base.

People are freaking idiots.

1) The demand for white nationalist violence outstrips the supply - you know this because it doesn't happen often and when it does the left loses their minds. Honestly I don't know that the capitol riots even qualify, as there were no indications there was a racial element to that event...and no evidence there was a concerted effort to actually "take over" the gov't. It was rioters rioting with no clear goals (and no fires, nothing destroyed, very limited violence against authorities, etc).
2) IF, and this is hypothetical, a group like that organizes and wants to do harm...they'll show up with something more dangerous than an organic food eating, climate change protesting mom's basement boy with a funny costume. The only firearm I saw was the one used against the protesters. Selfies are not violent.

Never let a crisis go to waste...
 
The fact their doing on the backs of the actions of a few hundred people, many who were politely let in and most acted politely during the "insurrection" is bad...but it's much worse that they are able to sell it to their base.

People are freaking idiots.

1) The demand for white nationalist violence outstrips the supply - you know this because it doesn't happen often and when it does the left loses their minds. Honestly I don't know that the capitol riots even qualify, as there were no indications there was a racial element to that event...and no evidence there was a concerted effort to actually "take over" the gov't. It was rioters rioting with no clear goals (and no fires, nothing destroyed, very limited violence against authorities, etc).
2) IF, and this is hypothetical, a group like that organizes and wants to do harm...they'll show up with something more dangerous than an organic food eating, climate change protesting mom's basement boy with a funny costume. The only firearm I saw was the one used against the protesters. Selfies are not violent.

Never let a crisis go to waste...
You must have missed the two pipe bombs and multiple firearms that were confiscated. Or the cops being beaten. Your news sources probably didn’t mention that.
 
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You must have missed the two pipe bombs and multiple firearms that were confiscated. Or the cops being beaten. Your news sources probably mention that.
One cop was beaten. 25 people were killed and 2000 cops injured this summer.

The pipe bombs were not part of the riots, and were left at both parties' HQ's. Those are not seats of government. We also still don't have a suspect in custody or know the motive.

A total of 7 people had weapons that were confiscated. 7 people is not a "vast RW conspiracy" to overthrow the gov't, it's a slow lunch rush.

Plus, they weren't frisking everyone. If hundreds had shown up armed at least one firearm would have made it into the building and been deployed. It's more likely peaceful idiots who are trying to exercise their second amendment rights in a city that doesn't allow it.

My point is that while it was a riot, and inexcusable violence occurred, it was not some extremely organized military operation. And the reaction to it was not commensurate with the reactions to 7 full months of rioting, looting, occupying, fighting and killing we saw this summer. 152 federal buildings were attacked. In Portland protestors barricaded a populated police station and then tried to burn it down. That was brushed under the rug while we painted slogans on the streets. This is being used to try to eliminate political opposition and end constitutional rights.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in all of this that's because you're trying not to.


Below is one man's story who got arrested with a firearm from an NBC story. Likely most or all of those arrested with weapons were making some ill-advised second amendment stand or are just ignorant that DC has different laws than the surrounding states.

Charles Snell, 40, and Timothy Wolfe, 32, drove up together from Chesapeake, Virginia, to take part in the Trump rally, arriving about 11 a.m. They had been on the road for about three hours and were excited to take pictures at the event and to be "a part of history," Snell said in an interview.

But they never made it to the rally.

Snell turned into what he thought was a public parking garage on 12th Street, just a couple of blocks from the National Mall.

A security guard stopped the car and asked whether they had any weapons inside, Snell said. Snell, a private security guard himself, had a handgun in his backpack in the back seat. Wolfe told the guard that he had a gun on the floorboard, a Glock 9 mm with 12 rounds in the magazine.

The two men were placed under arrest on charges of carrying a pistol without a license, possession of unregistered ammunition and possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device.

"It was my fault," Snell said. "I didn't research it before I came, or I wouldn't have brought fingernail clippers on my key ring. Heck no."

"I'm doing security," he added. "If I get some kind of conviction, I might end up losing my license."

Snell said they brought their guns only for security during travel to and from Washington.
 
One cop was beaten. 25 people were killed and 2000 cops injured this summer.

The pipe bombs were not part of the riots, and were left at both parties' HQ's. Those are not seats of government. We also still don't have a suspect in custody or know the motive.

A total of 7 people had weapons that were confiscated. 7 people is not a "vast RW conspiracy" to overthrow the gov't, it's a slow lunch rush.

Plus, they weren't frisking everyone. If hundreds had shown up armed at least one firearm would have made it into the building and been deployed. It's more likely peaceful idiots who are trying to exercise their second amendment rights in a city that doesn't allow it.

My point is that while it was a riot, and inexcusable violence occurred, it was not some extremely organized military operation. And the reaction to it was not commensurate with the reactions to 7 full months of rioting, looting, occupying, fighting and killing we saw this summer. 152 federal buildings were attacked. In Portland protestors barricaded a populated police station and then tried to burn it down. That was brushed under the rug while we painted slogans on the streets. This is being used to try to eliminate political opposition and end constitutional rights.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in all of this that's because you're trying not to.


Below is one man's story who got arrested with a firearm from an NBC story. Likely most or all of those arrested with weapons were making some ill-advised second amendment stand or are just ignorant that DC has different laws than the surrounding states.

Charles Snell, 40, and Timothy Wolfe, 32, drove up together from Chesapeake, Virginia, to take part in the Trump rally, arriving about 11 a.m. They had been on the road for about three hours and were excited to take pictures at the event and to be "a part of history," Snell said in an interview.

But they never made it to the rally.

Snell turned into what he thought was a public parking garage on 12th Street, just a couple of blocks from the National Mall.

A security guard stopped the car and asked whether they had any weapons inside, Snell said. Snell, a private security guard himself, had a handgun in his backpack in the back seat. Wolfe told the guard that he had a gun on the floorboard, a Glock 9 mm with 12 rounds in the magazine.

The two men were placed under arrest on charges of carrying a pistol without a license, possession of unregistered ammunition and possession of a large-capacity ammunition feeding device.

"It was my fault," Snell said. "I didn't research it before I came, or I wouldn't have brought fingernail clippers on my key ring. Heck no."

"I'm doing security," he added. "If I get some kind of conviction, I might end up losing my license."

Snell said they brought their guns only for security during travel to and from Washington.
More than one cop was beaten. I’ve seen reports from several.

Maybe you’re right, maybe nothing would have happened had they actually gotten ahold of Nancy or Pence. But maybe you’re wrong. What we do know it that it was a violent attack on our government.

Regarding your little anecdote, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
 
More than one cop was beaten. I’ve seen reports from several.

Maybe you’re right, maybe nothing would have happened had they actually gotten ahold of Nancy or Pence. But maybe you’re wrong. What we do know it that it was a violent attack on our government.

Regarding your little anecdote, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
I didn't say it was, I said it probably explains what some or all of the 7 people you claim were armed to the teeth were doing.

And you didn't address any of my points about the discrepancy in reaction. I didn't expect you to because that's how "debate". You ignore, spin and focus on the wrong things...which is exactly what the media does.

It's really transparent, and honestly makes trying to have a substantive conversation with you a complete waste of time.
 
I didn't say it was, I said it probably explains what some or all of the 7 people you claim were armed to the teeth were doing.

And you didn't address any of my points about the discrepancy in reaction. I didn't expect you to because that's how "debate". You ignore, spin and focus on the wrong things...which is exactly what the media does.

It's really transparent, and honestly makes trying to have a substantive conversation with you a complete waste of time.
I didn’t respond because I never condoned, or minimized that other violence. I do see it as somewhat of a false equivalence since one was an attack on our democratic presidential election. Both bad, one was worse IMO.

But I have no sympathy for rioters. Shoot them all as far as I’m concerned.
 
I didn’t respond because I never condoned, or minimized that other violence. I do see it as somewhat of a false equivalence since one was an attack on our democratic presidential election. Both bad, one was worse IMO.

But I have no sympathy for rioters. Shoot them all as far as I’m concerned.
If you don’t think the election had anything to do with our summer of love I don’t know what to say. That’s just willful ignorance.

And even if, and to a degree I can understand, you side more with the impetus of one vs the other you still have to weigh the size, scale, timeframe and amount of damage and life lost.
 
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If you don’t think the election had anything to do with our summer of love I don’t know what to say. That’s just willful ignorance.

And even if, and to a degree I can understand, you side more with the impetus of one vs the other you still have to weigh the size, scale, timeframe and amount of damage and life lost.
Fair enough. But I do think the election had everything to do with it. More specifically, the former president peddling the false narrative that the election was stolen.

The riots this summer were more related to the deaths of unarmed black people. Overreaction, OK. But two different issues.
 
Fair enough. But I do think the election had everything to do with it. More specifically, the former president peddling the false narrative that the election was stolen.

The riots this summer were more related to the deaths of unarmed black people. Overreaction, OK. But two different issues.

Some were even over suicide.

 
More than one cop was beaten. I’ve seen reports from several.

Maybe you’re right, maybe nothing would have happened had they actually gotten ahold of Nancy or Pence. But maybe you’re wrong. What we do know it that it was a violent attack on our government.

Regarding your little anecdote, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

If this was a "violent attack on our government" then why aren't we canceling leftwing extremists who spent months burning federal courthouses, federal buildings, police stations along with other private and public buildings?

The answer....narrative of course.

The crap at the Capitol was idiotic...but it certainly wasn't as unique as you libs are trying to pretend.
 
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If this was a "violent attack on our government" then why aren't we canceling leftwing extremists who spent months burning federal courthouses, federal buildings, police stations along with other private and public buildings?

The answer....narrative of course.

The crap at the Capitol was idiotic...but it certainly wasn't as unique as you libs are trying to pretend.
It was unique for government worshippers. That building is their Mecca or Mount Olympus. That was basically an assault on their gods. “How dare thee. We shall smote thee from the Twitterverse for scaring our betters, our collective conscience resides in that marble dome. You encroach at your own peril.”
 
If this was a "violent attack on our government" then why aren't we canceling leftwing extremists who spent months burning federal courthouses, federal buildings, police stations along with other private and public buildings?

The answer....narrative of course.

The crap at the Capitol was idiotic...but it certainly wasn't as unique as you libs are trying to pretend.
Asked and answered. Both are wrong. They both should be dealt with. One is more serious than the other IMO. The Capitol assault in Oregon or wherever doesn’t affect me.
 
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It was unique for government worshippers. That building is their Mecca or Mount Olympus. That was basically an assault on their gods. “How dare thee. We shall smote thee from the Twitterverse for scaring our betters, our collective conscience resides in that marble dome. You encroach at your own peril.”
Yes, this is true. Our nation’s Capitol is the foundation of our democracy, the rule of law, the constitution, and what prevents us from anarchy and total chaos.

I guess in your mind, you’d prefer to be living like Mad Max, or in a Hunter Gatherer society. Or maybe broken governments like Somalia.
 
One is more serious than the other.

So says you...and that's also why your "asked and answered" comment is horseshit.

Burning federal courthouses and police stations, over weeks and months, is at least as troubling as what happened at the Capitol.

Again, this is about narrative....and you absolutely know it is.
 
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The Capitol assault in Oregon or wherever doesn’t affect me.

This line really says it all, doesn't it?

FTR, the DC Capitol didn't affect you either. Well, it affected the news you watch...but what changed in your life as a result?

It was stupid and now it's being used as a scare tactic and a moral equivalence, or worse, to the lefts "summer of love." It's honestly all too stupid to actually be believed by people who think for themselves.
 
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This line really says it all, doesn't it?

FTR, the DC Capitol didn't affect you either. Well, it affected the news you watch...but what changed in your life as a result?

It was stupid and now it's being used as a scare tactic and a moral equivalence, or worse, to the lefts "summer of love." It's honestly all too stupid to actually be believed by people who think for themselves.
The assault on the Capitol was intended to “stop the steal.” In other words, to overturn the will of the people based on unfounded claims by our president. So yes, that affects me personally.

The assault on state Capitol s was just an Attempt to be heard about unfair police brutality (their words) Question their cause, if you wish, but it wasn’t a result of trying to overturn an election. That’s an attack on our entire democratic system.
 
So says you...and that's also why your "asked and answered" comment is horseshit.

Burning federal courthouses and police stations, over weeks and months, is at least as troubling as what happened at the Capitol.

Again, this is about narrative....and you absolutely know it is.
OK, at least as troubling. Again, I’ve never condoned it, merely stated it hasn’t affected my state. Or yours.
 
The assault on state Capitol s was just an Attempt to be heard about unfair police brutality (their words)

Funny how you can hear "their words" but you assume the worst about the idiots at the Capitol.

The people at the Capitol had zero chance to change anything...beyond the narrative.
 
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Funny how you can hear "their words" but you assume the worst about the idiots at the Capitol.

The people at the Capitol had zero chance to change anything...beyond the narrative.

Well, they sure thought they did.

But the biggest difference I see is that one was led by the leader of our country.
 
merely stated it hasn’t affected my state. Or yours.

The only way the Capitol crap affected my state, or yours, was the freaking narrative BSC. Literally nothing else changed.

Stupid people doing stupid things with little to no forethought.
 
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But the biggest difference I see is that one was led by the leader of our country.

Fake news.

But if it isn't, the summer of love was led by your party, including our president but most especially by our VP.

See how easy this is?
 
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Yes, this is true. Our nation’s Capitol is the foundation of our democracy, the rule of law, the constitution, and what prevents us from anarchy and total chaos.

I guess in your mind, you’d prefer to be living like Mad Max, or in a Hunter Gatherer society. Or maybe broken governments like Somalia.
LOL look at this pearl clutching. There was no plot to overthrow. You have no words of actual insurrection uttered by Trump unless you want to pick and choose when to take him figuratively and literally within the same sentence. But why isn’t that done with all politicians? The answer is your feelings by the way. The Capitol outburst was no different than the rest of uproars we saw. But it got in your feelings because you love big government. You voted for big government, cheered it on when Georgia results came in. The foundation of our republic was actually in Philadelphia, did you weep this summer over that one too? No, you admitted you objected silently but this one has you in a tizzy. Again, your insincerity is on full display here. If you’re going to be “outraged” publicly you won’t do yourself any favors by only being outraged in one direction.

This whole notion of an unarmed coup is the most comically stupid thing I keep reading/hearing. It honestly makes people sound like huge pussies when they repeat it.
 
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Dems burned down this country and killed people all summer and now look at them. Hilarious. The left is the true terrorists and a threat to our democracy. It’s ok because they won’t be in power long, Trump will come back and take what’s rightfully his soon.
 
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