Miami has injuries too - 6, including Jeff Thomas - out, 4 questionable

[Jeff from Jax]

Gators Elijah Conliffe is not the only last minute injury

For Miami -
Out
Jeff Thomas (wide receiver) — Thomas had arthroscopic surgery on his knee and will be out for an unknown period of time.

Questionable
Evidence Njoku (wide receiver) — Following a knee injury in practice, Njoku is questionable for Saturday’s game with the Gators.

Complete list of Miami injuries -
https://hailfloridahail.com/2019/08/21/florida-football-injury-report-miami-hurricanes/

 

[Gator Fever]

Jeff Thomas will play according to Miami fans.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Jeff Thomas will play according to Miami fans.

Fever,

For Thomas' sake I hope that is BS !

Doubt the Miami fans talking about Thomas playing in Saturday's game went to Med school or would risk their health so foolishly.

Not a surgeon, never had the operation, don't know when Thomas had his surgery. Talked to a friend who had what MAY be a similar procedure.

FWIW
It takes up to six weeks for the knee joint to re-establish normal joint fluid after arthroscopic surgery...There is a high degree of variability in recovery times.

It is normal to have swelling and discomfort in the knee for several days or a week following your arthroscopic knee surgery.

Most people are able to walk with a minimal limp within one or two weeks after surgery.

Playing a football game as a WR & trying to run & cut at full speed doesn't
sound like something that anyone other than a complete fool would do. One good hit on the knee could tear it up for good.

We'll see what happens.

 

[Gator Fever]

Fever,

For Thomas' sake I hope that is BS !

Doubt the Miami fans talking about Thomas playing in Saturday's game went to Med school or would risk their health so foolishly.

Not a surgeon, never had the operation, don't know when Thomas had his surgery. Talked to a friend who had what MAY be a similar procedure.

FWIW
It takes up to six weeks for the knee joint to re-establish normal joint fluid after arthroscopic surgery...There is a high degree of variability in recovery times.

It is normal to have swelling and discomfort in the knee for several days or a week following your arthroscopic knee surgery.

Most people are able to walk with a minimal limp within one or two weeks after surgery.

Playing a football game as a WR & trying to run & cut at full speed doesn't
sound like something that anyone other than a complete fool would do. One good hit on the knee could tear it up for good.

We'll see what happens.

Not sure if he was listed there but their starting TE Brevin Jordan seems to be the starter they are worried won't play.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Mea Culpa !
I didn't check the facts contained int the article I posted about Jeff Thomas' knee surgery.

I didn't think I had to, article made it sound like it had just happened - wrong.

I guess Web sites need readers to justify ad rates for pop-ups ! LOL

According to Susan Miller Degnan, University of Miami football beat writer for The Miami Herald. Surgery took place on APRIL 16, 2019.

"...wide receiver Jeff Thomas and Brian Hightower both had "minor arthroscopic knee surgery on their right knee.'' No timetable for return was given. " @HeraldSports
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1:59 PM - Apr 16, 2019

Entirely possible / probable that Thomas plays in Saturday's game !

Here is the artice, from Fan Sided August 21st that I originally referenced -
https://hailfloridahail.com/2019/08/21/florida-football-injury-report-miami-hurricanes/

Here is the same website (Fan sided - Miami version) talking about Thomas' surgery back in April.

https://caneswarning.com/2019/04/16/miami-hurricanes-wrs-jeff-thomas-brian-hightower-knee-surgery/

WTF

 

[cpotter5000]

Both Thomas and Jordan will be playing.. both will be starting.. both of those injuries were during spring ball , and both of them participated over the summer and during fall Camp without any issues at all, we only have one player in the two deep that will not play this week and that is Nesta Silvera. The other questionable players are 100% full go.

 

[Gator Fever]

Both Thomas and Jordan will be playing.. both will be starting.. both of those injuries were during spring ball , and both of them participated over the summer and during fall Camp without any issues at all, we only have one player in the two deep that will not play this week and that is Nesta Silvera. The other questionable players are 100% full go.

Any suspensions rumored?

 

[cpotter5000]

Any suspensions rumored?

None at all. Diaz stated there are zero suspensions.

 

[Gator Fever]

None at all. Diaz stated there are zero suspensions.

I guess Miami is smart enough not to do that mess when you have a big opening game.

 

[GatorNation79]

It doesn't matter...all teams will have injuries....I think we're better from top to bottom...we have our concerns too. The game will have to be played...turnovers, penalties and broken plays will all be a factor...we'll see the game in 2 days but whoever executes the best will win.

 

[dmatt]

Mea Culpa !
I didn't check the facts contained int the article I posted about Jeff Thomas' knee surgery.

I didn't think I had to, article made it sound like it had just happened - wrong.

I guess Web sites need readers to justify ad rates for pop-ups ! LOL

According to Susan Miller Degnan, University of Miami football beat writer for The Miami Herald. Surgery took place on APRIL 16, 2019.

"...wide receiver Jeff Thomas and Brian Hightower both had "minor arthroscopic knee surgery on their right knee.'' No timetable for return was given. " @HeraldSports
38
1:59 PM - Apr 16, 2019

Entirely possible / probable that Thomas plays in Saturday's game !

Here is the artice, from Fan Sided August 21st that I originally referenced -
https://hailfloridahail.com/2019/08/21/florida-football-injury-report-miami-hurricanes/

Here is the same website (Fan sided - Miami version) talking about Thomas' surgery back in April.

https://caneswarning.com/2019/04/16/miami-hurricanes-wrs-jeff-thomas-brian-hightower-knee-surgery/

WTF

Thanks for the “Follow UP’s” and getting the correct information to everyone..

 

[rdgtr]

Here is to an injury-free game this Saturday for both teams!
Florida & Miami!

 

[grommit]

He's a WR, will it truly matter?

No offense but I'm not taking this game as lightly as others seem to be. Their defense is going to eat up our offensive line I fully expect that. Our offensive success last year was 100% predicated on the 220 yards rushing average we had each game. That opened up the passing game. 4 senior LBs who could pretty much start on most any SEC team for them so they will not tire and we will literally only be able to run up the middle where their NT position is weak.

Scoring for us won't be easy this Saturday.

What gives me hope is that their offense is far worse off than we are at any position. If they can even figure out how to get 11 guys on the field at once and lined up in a legal formation to get a play off, I will be surprised. To say nothing of actually protecting the guy they claim is a quarterback and him figuring out how to pass the football to someone else. So in my opinion, a WR playing for them or not is of little consequence. I would expect between 3-4 completed passes from them for the game, that's just how hideously bad their offense is.

 

[CountyGator2]

None at all. Diaz stated there are zero suspensions.

Awesome! So now there won't be any excuses.

 

[CountyGator2]

He's a WR, will it truly matter?

No offense but I'm not taking this game as lightly as others seem to be. Their defense is going to eat up our offensive line I fully expect that. Our offensive success last year was 100% predicated on the 220 yards rushing average we had each game. That opened up the passing game. 4 senior LBs who could pretty much start on most any SEC team for them so they will not tire and we will literally only be able to run up the middle where their NT position is weak.

Scoring for us won't be easy this Saturday.

What gives me hope is that their offense is far worse off than we are at any position. If they can even figure out how to get 11 guys on the field at once and lined up in a legal formation to get a play off, I will be surprised. To say nothing of actually protecting the guy they claim is a quarterback and him figuring out how to pass the football to someone else. So in my opinion, a WR playing for them or not is of little consequence. I would expect between 3-4 completed passes from them for the game, that's just how hideously bad their offense is.

Miami D is really good, but for some reason nobody is talking about our D. We brought back several guys from a really good defense. I would also venture to say we played a tougher schedule last year.

 

[grommit]

Miami D is really good, but for some reason nobody is talking about our D. We brought back several guys from a really good defense. I would also venture to say we played a tougher schedule last year.

They had the #18 scoring defense last year, we had the #22 scoring defense. You can easily argue they lost more off of last year than we did.

I will give them that they have more proven depth at LB and up front than we do, but the situation is completely reversed in the secondary where we are way ahead of them.

You are correct though, everyone talks about how great their defense was in 2018, but we came up only 4 spots behind them when the season was all said and done. How many top 10 teams did they face last year btw? We faced, UGLY, LSU, and Michigan, yet still came away at #22. Going to be interesting.

 

[CountyGator2]

They had the #18 scoring defense last year, we had the #22 scoring defense. You can easily argue they lost more off of last year than we did.

I will give them that they have more proven depth at LB and up front than we do, but the situation is completely reversed in the secondary where we are way ahead of them.

You are correct though, everyone talks about how great their defense was in 2018, but we came up only 4 spots behind them when the season was all said and done. How many top 10 teams did they face last year btw? We faced, UGLY, LSU, and Michigan, yet still came away at #22. Going to be interesting.

We brought back 7 starters and added a big time transfer with tons of starting experience. They are clearly better at linebacker with their depth, but along the D line it's even from a starter standpoint, but they do have better depth. Our secondary is obviously our strength.

 

[Gator Fever]

They had the #18 scoring defense last year, we had the #22 scoring defense. You can easily argue they lost more off of last year than we did.

I will give them that they have more proven depth at LB and up front than we do, but the situation is completely reversed in the secondary where we are way ahead of them.

You are correct though, everyone talks about how great their defense was in 2018, but we came up only 4 spots behind them when the season was all said and done. How many top 10 teams did they face last year btw? We faced, UGLY, LSU, and Michigan, yet still came away at #22. Going to be interesting.

I think some pick 6's and turnovers on their side of the field hurt Miami defense scoring numbers. But they did play in the ACC which helped them. I hope we roll them but I think their defense might be better than some think.

 

[Canes-Rule]

They had the #18 scoring defense last year, we had the #22 scoring defense. You can easily argue they lost more off of last year than we did.

I will give them that they have more proven depth at LB and up front than we do, but the situation is completely reversed in the secondary where we are way ahead of them.

You are correct though, everyone talks about how great their defense was in 2018, but we came up only 4 spots behind them when the season was all said and done. How many top 10 teams did they face last year btw? We faced, UGLY, LSU, and Michigan, yet still came away at #22. Going to be interesting.

Scoring D was not a top defensive stat for Miami but that was in large part because the offense and special teams were SO BAD.

Offense and SP 2018
#117 in Turnovers
#117 Net Punting
#104 Kickoff D
#112 First down offense
#118 Pass completion %
#112 Pass Offense
#86 Time of possession

Defense 2018
#4 Total Defense
#1 Pass eff. D
#1 Pass D
#1 3rd down conversion D
#5 First down D
#1 TFL
#9 Sacks
#16 Turnovers

Defense was pretty amazing especially considering the horrible offense and SP play. Amazing they won any games with such a disaster on that side of the ball. That's why the whole staff was cleared out day 1 when Manny got the head coaching job. He saw it first hand and knew how bad they were. Gotta hope and from a Canes fan perspective expect improvement under Dan Enos.

 

[mmako11]

He's a WR, will it truly matter?

No offense but I'm not taking this game as lightly as others seem to be. Their defense is going to eat up our offensive line I fully expect that. Our offensive success last year was 100% predicated on the 220 yards rushing average we had each game. That opened up the passing game. 4 senior LBs who could pretty much start on most any SEC team for them so they will not tire and we will literally only be able to run up the middle where their NT position is weak.

Scoring for us won't be easy this Saturday.

What gives me hope is that their offense is far worse off than we are at any position. If they can even figure out how to get 11 guys on the field at once and lined up in a legal formation to get a play off, I will be surprised. To say nothing of actually protecting the guy they claim is a quarterback and him figuring out how to pass the football to someone else. So in my opinion, a WR playing for them or not is of little consequence. I would expect between 3-4 completed passes from them for the game, that's just how hideously bad their offense is.

Your thoughts on the defense are pretty spot on, but you're really underselling the weapons on offense. Miami hbs & wrs vs uf's are essentially a wash. Miami has better tight ends. Probably give a slight edge to UF oline but really both olines are pretty suspect. It's all going to come down to Williams as you have the clear experience advantage at QB. Williams is inexperienced but he was highly recruited, has a strong arm, has looked good all spring and fall. For the first time in a while Miami has a competent OC in Enos. We essentially had no OC last year and two brutal QBs. If Williams is able to keep the mistakes/turnovers down then the Miami offense will do ok. But Enos does have the luxury of quite a few weapons to take the pressure off Williams......IFFFF he can gameplan well enough to give him time because your DL is certainly better than our OL.

 

[Gator Fever]

Your thoughts on the defense are pretty spot on, but you're really underselling the weapons on offense. Miami hbs & wrs vs uf's are essentially a wash. Miami has better tight ends. Probably give a slight edge to UF oline but really both olines are pretty suspect. It's all going to come down to Williams as you have the clear experience advantage at QB. Williams is inexperienced but he was highly recruited, has a strong arm, has looked good all spring and fall. For the first time in a while Miami has a competent OC in Enos. We essentially had no OC last year and two brutal QBs. If Williams is able to keep the mistakes/turnovers down then the Miami offense will do ok. But Enos does have the luxury of quite a few weapons to take the pressure off Williams......IFFFF he can gameplan well enough to give him time because your DL is certainly better than our OL.

I don't see Miami having more than a big upset chance to win because of having no experience at the Tackle and QB spots but I think it will be closer than a lot of people think.

 

[GatorNation79]

He's a WR, will it truly matter?

No offense but I'm not taking this game as lightly as others seem to be. Their defense is going to eat up our offensive line I fully expect that. Our offensive success last year was 100% predicated on the 220 yards rushing average we had each game. That opened up the passing game. 4 senior LBs who could pretty much start on most any SEC team for them so they will not tire and we will literally only be able to run up the middle where their NT position is weak.

Scoring for us won't be easy this Saturday.

What gives me hope is that their offense is far worse off than we are at any position. If they can even figure out how to get 11 guys on the field at once and lined up in a legal formation to get a play off, I will be surprised. To say nothing of actually protecting the guy they claim is a quarterback and him figuring out how to pass the football to someone else. So in my opinion, a WR playing for them or not is of little consequence. I would expect between 3-4 completed passes from them for the game, that's just how hideously bad their offense is.

I don't think that this will be an easy game Miami has talent...I think that we'll run away with it as the game goes on. We'll have to see who makes the most mistakes...penalties and turnovers will be a factor I'm sure.

 

[jcat2410]

Fake news....

 

[mmako11]

I don't see Miami having more than a big upset chance to win because of having no experience at the Tackle and QB spots but I think it will be closer than a lot of people think.

You may be right, and Tackle and qb are certainly the uncertainty positions. I'm guessing most Gator fans thought the same think heading into the last time we played too though....pretty similar situations actually. Ironically, 6 years later our biggest question marks continue to be the same two positions lol.

 

[Gator Fever]

You may be right, and Tackle and qb are certainly the uncertainty positions. I'm guessing most Gator fans thought the same think heading into the last time we played too though....pretty similar situations actually. Ironically, 6 years later our biggest question marks continue to be the same two positions lol.

Some did but it wasn't like this game because of the Driskel factor and knowing he could change outcomes pretty quick. I will say he Driskeled that day as bad as any game I can remember except for maybe the beginning of the Missouri game before he was benched finally.

 

[mmako11]

Some did but it wasn't like this game because of the Driskel factor and knowing he could change outcomes pretty quick. I will say he Driskeled that day as bad as any game I can remember except for maybe the beginning of the Missouri game before he was benched finally.

Yeah he was rough that day.

 

[instaGATOR]

Some did but it wasn't like this game because of the Driskel factor and knowing he could change outcomes pretty quick. I will say he Driskeled that day as bad as any game I can remember except for maybe the beginning of the Missouri game before he was benched finally.

Moronic fevered brain non-news,,, yet again.

 

[jcat2410]

Jeff Thomas is not injured.....

 

[Gator Fever]

Moronic fevered brain non-news,,, yet again.

Its a fact we probably win that game without his what - 3 or 4 turnovers or something like that. Driskel was throwing into triple coverage that game and finding ways to give them the ball without throwing a pass also. Its amazing the defense kept it close with how he kept turning the ball over.

 

[instaGATOR]

Since you claim to know so much, can you list the receiver drops for us?
How about naming the receiver that said in the post game interview that he went the wrong way on a timing route that caused a redzone Int?
Can you list the missed blocks that put Jeff under pressure?
How about the idiot play calls, can you point them out for me?

Or do you just harp on Driskel because it's easy and you're a village idiot with a fevered brain?
(rhetorical)

 

[Gator Fever]

Since you claim to know so much, can you list the receiver drops for us?
How about naming the receiver that said in the post game interview that he went the wrong way on a timing route that caused a redzone Int?
Can you list the missed blocks that put Jeff under pressure?
How about the idiot play calls, can you point them out for me?

Or do you just harp on Driskel because it's easy and you're a village idiot with a fevered brain?
(rhetorical)

Sad might have flashbacks...

Driskel then tried to fit a pass into triple coverage and ended up getting picked off. It was a bad decision and a very real example of just how far Jeff still needs to progress as a pocket passer.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Lol

Wide receiver drops.

Yes.

Jeff Driskell's problem wide receiver drops.