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[bmoregator95]

your racism is showing..
1. you are assuming that black and brown kids are put upon AT the university -
2. those perceptions cause white people to expect less of them
Those ideas you’ve just espoused are purely racist- but you think they are ok because it’s against white people. Sad.

Kettle you are black

Without DEI, we KNOW that people must only be judged on their merits. I’m thinking pretty much all the kids at UF these days have to prove they belong.

So then when UF decisions came out, why were there several folks on here upset that affirmative action (which isn't even used to consider admissions) was why hardworking white kids were denied admission. I remember hearing some talking about talking their donations elsewhere, etc.

With DEI, we know that people are judged on their merit as well, the field just looks a little more diverse.

 

[Cptchiron]

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This deeply concerns me..and should be thoroughly examined before the vote takes place.

 

[hercgator]

your racism is showing..
1. you are assuming that black and brown kids are put upon AT the university -
2. those perceptions cause white people to expect less of them
Those ideas you’ve just espoused are purely racist- but you think they are ok because it’s against white people. Sad.

Kettle you are black

Without DEI, we KNOW that people must only be judged on their merits. I’m thinking pretty much all the kids at UF these days have to prove they belong.

 

[wahoodoc]

So then when UF decisions came out, why were there several folks on here upset that affirmative action (which isn't even used to consider admissions) was why hardworking white kids were denied admission. I remember hearing some talking about talking their donations elsewhere, etc.

With DEI, we know that people are judged on their merit as well, the field just looks a little more diverse.

unfortunately they are not judged on merit ALSO
they are categorized FIRST, racially profiled
and some entity decides how deserving you are based on the value of your group affiliation, then maybe you are considered within your group.

why conceptually would you authorize and justify any entity to decide what group is more deserving than another based on something as superficial as skin color or heritage?

harvard being one of the worst examples
jews went from 20 percent to 2 in 5 years, because they were out of favor
many of those with perfect SAT scores rejected in favor of those favored preferred darker skin groups whose average SAT scores were admitted students were 1180 and 1270 (300 points below the average asian/jew) Harvard just offered remedial math classes for the first time.

all that being said - diversity of thought comes from people being open minded enough to consider facts theories and models different from their own. DEI is a five year olds idea of diversity - as if a human being can be codified by the most superficial aspect of their being.

 

[bmoregator95]

unfortunately they are not judged on merit ALSO
they are categorized FIRST, racially profiled
and some entity decides how deserving you are based on the value of your group affiliation, then maybe you are considered within your group.

why conceptually would you authorize and justify any entity to decide what group is more deserving than another based on something as superficial as skin color or heritage?

harvard being one of the worst examples
jews went from 20 percent to 2 in 5 years, because they were out of favor
many of those with perfect SAT scores rejected in favor of those favored preferred darker skin groups whose average SAT scores were admitted students were 1180 and 1270 (300 points below the average asian/jew) Harvard just offered remedial math classes for the first time.

all that being said - diversity of thought comes from people being open minded enough to consider facts theories and models different from their own. DEI is a five year olds idea of diversity - as if a human being can be codified by the most superficial aspect of their being.

And perhaps some of those with darker skin had extenuating circumstances that made their 1180 to 1270 impressive. Imagine instead of being from a two parent household, attending great college prep schools, having access to tutors, etc. you attend an average high school, have to work to help the family, but are in the top 5% among your peers. You show promise but have limited resources to build a resume similar to those with more guidance. Should being poor eliminate you from attending a great school?

According to you, those facts don't matter and to me they do. I am a public school teacher and every year there are former students of mine that are doing wonderful things that even I wasn't so sure about. Some of these young people went to great schools and are not who their high school profile said they would be.

Diversity of thought is hard to achieve when all the folks in the room come from a homogeneous group, but ok...

We can go back and forth but the truth of the matter is, it's hard to judge everyone the same when we are all coming from different places/circumstances.

At the end of the day, if a DEI admission or hire (as you call them) can't cut it, they will be gone right?

 

[wahoodoc]

again
your racism is showing
why do you assume that the asian or jewish kid didn’t have the same challenges or greater (you are showing your racism) and rose to the top .1 percent not top 5. (lowering the standard of excellence for brown people - also inherently racist. presumably because they cannot compete..

your position is both logically and morally indefensible

my forebears had to rise through circumstances far more difficult than the vast vast majority of those with “ less opportunity” today. Your beloved communist social engineering has not and will never work. Individuals will rise to the or level of effort and competence as long as they are free to do so.

You might want to read Thomas sowell to add historical context to the dangerous and foolhardy ideas you espouse to your students.

 

[cm5694]

Sure can tell who has had the silver spoon in their mouths their entire life.

 

[Gators300]

again
your racism is showing
why do you assume that the asian or jewish kid didn’t have the same challenges or greater (you are showing your racism) and rose to the top .1 percent not top 5. (lowering the standard of excellence for brown people - also inherently racist. presumably because they cannot compete..

your position is both logically and morally indefensible

my forebears had to rise through circumstances far more difficult than the vast vast majority of those with “ less opportunity” today. Your beloved communist social engineering has not and will never work. Individuals will rise to the or level of effort and competence as long as they are free to do so.

You might want to read Thomas sowell to add historical context to the dangerous and foolhardy ideas you espouse to your students.

Dude, you're dealing with a public school teacher. Essentially the personification of indoctrination into this harmful and racist ideology. My guess is you'd have a better chance at convincing a rock that DEI is racist than you would a public school teacher.

 

[Hotlanta_Bill]

Well...time to move this thread to the parking lot

 

[tightcherry]

Dude, you're dealing with a public school teacher. Essentially the personification of indoctrination into this harmful and racist ideology. My guess is you'd have a better chance at convincing a rock that DEI is racist than you would a public school teacher.

So the politicians know more than the educators ..... in what world?


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[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Well...time to move this thread to the parking lot

We don't want to see it either. Honestly, when a Swamp thread reaches the 'let's move this to the Parking Lot' stage, it's best to just delete it. Every time I see a post from the paid board and the 'logic' some of you employ, it makes me gently weep for humanity.

 

[Hotlanta_Bill]

Is Rufo a Floridian or has any ties to UF?

 

[LordofallSocks]

again
your racism is showing
why do you assume that the asian or jewish kid didn’t have the same challenges or greater (you are showing your racism) and rose to the top .1 percent not top 5. (lowering the standard of excellence for brown people - also inherently racist. presumably because they cannot compete..

your position is both logically and morally indefensible

my forebears had to rise through circumstances far more difficult than the vast vast majority of those with “ less opportunity” today. Your beloved communist social engineering has not and will never work. Individuals will rise to the or level of effort and competence as long as they are free to do so.

You might want to read Thomas sowell to add historical context to the dangerous and foolhardy ideas you espouse to your students.

He can't. Plus us Asians get screwed, we get racism and have to get things thru merit.

And we're still the most prosperous race in the country, so suck it.

 

[bmoregator95]

He can't. Plus us Asians get screwed, we get racism and have to get things thru merit.

And we're still the most prosperous race in the country, so suck it.

I got no problem with Asians, why you mad?

 

[NavigatorII]

Well...time to move this thread to the parking lot

Where woke ALWAYS goes to die! 😂

 

[LordofallSocks]

I got no problem with Asians, why you mad?

That was aimed at the other guy, carry on.

 

[hercgator]

again
your racism is showing
why do you assume that the asian or jewish kid didn’t have the same challenges or greater (you are showing your racism) and rose to the top .1 percent not top 5. (lowering the standard of excellence for brown people - also inherently racist. presumably because they cannot compete..

your position is both logically and morally indefensible

my forebears had to rise through circumstances far more difficult than the vast vast majority of those with “ less opportunity” today. Your beloved communist social engineering has not and will never work. Individuals will rise to the or level of effort and competence as long as they are free to do so.

You might want to read Thomas sowell to add historical context to the dangerous and foolhardy ideas you espouse to your students.

Serious, good-faith question: Let’s say everything in your life stays the same - same job, same income, same house, same neighborhood, same friends. The only change is that you now have black or brown skin. Would you take that trade?

 

[LordofallSocks]

Serious, good-faith question: Let’s say everything in your life stays the same - same job, same income, same house, same neighborhood, same friends. The only change is that you now have black or brown skin. Would you take that trade?

Oh I can't wait to see how this turns out.


But Chris Rock said it best. "Ain't a white man in this room would trade places with me. and I'm RICH."

 

[LordofallSocks]

And perhaps some of those with darker skin had extenuating circumstances that made their 1180 to 1270 impressive. Imagine instead of being from a two parent household, attending great college prep schools, having access to tutors, etc. you attend an average high school, have to work to help the family, but are in the top 5% among your peers. You show promise but have limited resources to build a resume similar to those with more guidance. Should being poor eliminate you from attending a great school?

Yes. Not everyone needs to go to college any damn way.

At the end of the day, if a DEI admission or hire (as you call them) can't cut it, they will be gone right?

No actually. In a lot of cases people have to literally die before these assholes get fired. That's problematic.

 

[LordofallSocks]

I don’t care if he runs a moonshine still out of his office as long as he supports football

This.

 

[fatman76]

He can't. Plus us Asians get screwed, we get racism and have to get things thru merit.

And we're still the most prosperous race in the country, so suck it.

Well you're "white-adjacent"....the moniker the Left had to invent when it was proven hard work and family values lead to success.

 

[fatman76]

Oh I can't wait to see how this turns out.


But Chris Rock said it best. "Ain't a white man in this room would trade places with me. and I'm RICH."

I'd take that trade in a heartbeat.

Money doesn't solve everything but it certainly increases the threshold for pain.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

when they tell you who they are
Believe Them!!!
not what you want want them to be
or what you hope..

You guys are overthinking this.

Who is his previous employer? Michigan? Then go read the Michigan board, notice which group is happy he is leaving and which group is pissed he is leaving.

That will more or less tell you what you will be getting at Florida.

 

[LordofallSocks]

Well you're "white-adjacent"....the moniker the Left had to invent when it was proven hard work and family values lead to success.

In my neighborhood I am negro adjacent, son. 😎

 

[fatman76]

Oh I can't wait to see how this turns out.


But Chris Rock said it best. "Ain't a white man in this room would trade places with me. and I'm RICH."

 

[gatordad3]

I'm putting my trust in the Governor here.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I'm putting my trust in the Governor here.

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Desantis has won most of these battles.....

 

[PacoGator19]

You guys are overthinking this.

Who is his previous employer? Michigan? Then go read the Michigan board, notice which group is happy he is leaving and which group is pissed he is leaving.

That will more or less tell you what you will be getting at Florida.

...and? I don't have time to read the Michigan board, what was the discussion?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

...and? I don't have time to read the Michigan board, what was the discussion?

How long do you think it would take you to read another board? I mean you found the time to reply here, maybe you are selling yourself short?

 

[NavigatorII]

At the end of the day, if a DEI admission or hire (as you call them) can't cut it, they will be gone right?

Apparently you weren't taught about the Peter Principle? 😂 Never been to the Post Office or DMV? 😂

 

[GatorTrooper]

He didn't get the votes

 

[NavigatorII]

He didn't get the votes

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Reading this thread, libs went from 'who cares about his politics' to 'governors board can burn in hell' LOL

 

[GatorTrooper]

Reading this thread, libs went from 'who cares about his politics' to 'governors board can burn in hell' LOL

It's what they do.

 

[gatordad3]

The flip side, like or not, agree with it or not, there is a certain lobby in this country that holds a lot sway. Not to mention the fact that UF is home to a ton of students who happen to share their identity. I don’t like that it got to this point, and it’s just a bad look all around, but those protest camps that he permitted last year, along with the assaults on several students there, probably did him in.

You can disagree with the way the board of governors handled this decision, but the UF board probably should have seen this coming and avoided the whole fiasco.