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Looks like FSU is pushing Brian Bell out?

I doubt they would do it because of that civil suit. Maybe some of the FSU posters would know why.
 
Why can't they just request that the case be moved to Tallahassee where it can be handled properly.
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It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
 
Originally posted by grommit:
It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
One has to imagine by going to f$u he had a good chance of this being swept under the rug.

GO Canes!
 
Originally posted by mcanes:
Originally posted by grommit:
It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
One has to imagine by going to f$u he had a good chance of this being swept under the rug.

GO Canes!
Oh I'm sure it's one of the big draws to signing there in the first place. That and the new required class for freshmen student-athletes, "date rape and 13 steps on how to get out of it."
 
For that matter, have any of you ever heard of the rumor that FSU athletes get a little gold star in the corner of their student ID's so when they present it to local law enforcement officers, they know to handle the situation with "special care?" I believe that was an article in Sports Illustrated back in Bobby Bowden's days.
 
Originally posted by mcanes:

Originally posted by grommit:
It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
One has to imagine by going to f$u he had a good chance of this being swept under the rug.

GO Canes!
Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
 
Originally posted by PJD3883:
Originally posted by mcanes:

Originally posted by grommit:
It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
One has to imagine by going to f$u he had a good chance of this being swept under the rug.

GO Canes!
Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
So you don't deny that TPD seeps the crimes of fsu football players under the rug. Interesting.
 
Originally posted by GatorGray:

Originally posted by PJD3883:
Originally posted by mcanes:

Originally posted by grommit:
It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
One has to imagine by going to f$u he had a good chance of this being swept under the rug.

GO Canes!
Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
So you don't deny that TPD seeps the crimes of fsu football players under the rug. Interesting.
Oh come on, how could they deny that any more than denying that water is wet? They just don't care. Difference.
 
Originally posted by PJD3883:

Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
He wouldn't go to UM under his current circumstance due to the following:

We don't defend rapist
UM cops don't care if they play football
Our coach no matter if he can coach or not will not praise criminals or hide facts from the public
If he was to steel from someone UM would only punish him for the team in which his scholarship falls under
We don't allow destroying property and dismissing it as boys will be boys.
A kid that may have killed someone wouldn't be welcome, UM wouldn't even allow him to commit
Our kids go to class

If being relevant is about getting away with a crime, distorting facts, or cheating on test than by all means UM is irrelevant.

GO Canes!
 
Getting criticized by Miami over off-field issues is like getting criticized by Al-Qaeda for being too violent. Miami is literally the last program on the planet that is in a position to get all high-and-mighty about other team's dirty laundry. When people criticize FSU, they call us the "New Miami."
 
Originally posted by PJD3883:

Originally posted by mcanes:


Originally posted by grommit:
It's pretty messed up where a future FSU player cannot be tried in Tallahassee where they can see that justice is properly served and that he gets acquitted in time to make strength training practice.

What is this world coming to???
One has to imagine by going to f$u he had a good chance of this being swept under the rug.

GO Canes!
Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
Now now, don't be a sapp
 
What is up with this new breed of pious, choir-boy Miami fans? Remember when Miami fans used to be the fun, smack-talkers?

If this was the 1980s Miami, you know full-well that the Jameis allegations wouldn't have even made it to the news. Some money would have changed hands, some white powder would have been gone up the noses of the right people, probably on a yacht, floating just far enough out in the High Seas that they would be able to see the people pointing and laughing at them for looking like Boss Hog, but dressing like Don Johnson.
 
Originally posted by Uniformed_ReRe:
Getting criticized by Miami over off-field issues is like getting criticized by Al-Qaeda for being too violent. Miami is literally the last program on the planet that is in a position to get all high-and-mighty about other team's dirty laundry. When people criticize FSU, they call us the "New Miami."
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You people on the slant drink way too much Kool-Aid; you should look at the number of arrest, cheating, hiding crimes, and playing people at all cost, you make UM look like a school for angels.

This is about your player that could be involved in a murder yet you try and look away once again, the hypocrisy you nolies produce is amazing.

You have had coaches write letters for murderer's before so I expect dumbo will be getting his pen out to compose the next letter of how great this kid is and how any accusations are false, of course this will depend if they really need the kid on the team.

If they new about your past as much as your rivals they would call the death penalty for f$U.

GO Canes!
 
Originally posted by Uniformed_ReRe:
What is up with this new breed of pious, choir-boy Miami fans? Remember when Miami fans used to be the fun, smack-talkers?

If this was the 1980s Miami, you know full-well that the Jameis allegations wouldn't have even made it to the news. Some money would have changed hands, some white powder would have been gone up the noses of the right people, probably on a yacht, floating just far enough out in the High Seas that they would be able to see the people pointing and laughing at them for looking like Boss Hog, but dressing like Don Johnson.
I remember the days when FSU players would at least have to run stadium steps after football practice when they'd commit their weekly felonies. Is it really THAT bad that I am reminiscing about how the discipline was so much better back during the Bobby Bowden days? Yikes!!! Bobby would just chuckle and say boys will be boys, let em get some extra conditioning practice put in and tell the NCAA that it was punishment, but he never went around praising the inmates when they'd commit murder and rape people. He'd try to at least keep that as quiet as he could till their football days were over. Jimbo on the other hand...
 
Originally posted by grommit:

Oh I'm sure it's one of the big draws to signing there in the first place. That and the new required class for freshmen student-athletes, "date rape and 13 steps on how to get out of it."
New board rules prevent the obvious response...so I'll refrain.
 
Originally posted by 93nole99:

Originally posted by grommit:

Oh I'm sure it's one of the big draws to signing there in the first place. That and the new required class for freshmen student-athletes, "date rape and 13 steps on how to get out of it."
New board rules prevent the obvious response...so I'll refrain.
You're free to respond on Warchant all you want. I promise I won't reply in any way. I can pretty much guarantee I won't even read it. Not many with the powerful ability TO read will I'm quite sure.
 
Originally posted by mcanes:

Originally posted by PJD3883:

Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
He wouldn't go to UM under his current circumstance due to the following:

UM cops don't care if they play football
There's really no way to know this, because it's been awhile since you had anyone who could actually play football.
 
Originally posted by SeaPA:

Originally posted by mcanes:


Originally posted by PJD3883:

Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
He wouldn't go to UM under his current circumstance due to the following:

UM cops don't care if they play football
There's really no way to know this, because it's been awhile since you had anyone who could actually play football.
It's also been quite awhile since Fans outnumbered UM Cops at Football games.
 
Originally posted by SeaPA:
Originally posted by mcanes:

Originally posted by PJD3883:

Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
He wouldn't go to UM under his current circumstance due to the following:

UM cops don't care if they play football
There's really no way to know this, because it's been awhile since you had anyone who could actually play football.
This can be read both ways you know, although I understand that this concept doesn't register for the majority of FSU fans. Perhaps you don't see any Miami players getting arrested in the news or causing trouble isn't because they don't have any football players, perhaps its (gasp) because they aren't committing any crimes!
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Originally posted by PJD3883:

Originally posted by SeaPA:


Originally posted by mcanes:



Originally posted by PJD3883:

Or he could go to Miami and be irrelevent.
He wouldn't go to UM under his current circumstance due to the following:

UM cops don't care if they play football
There's really no way to know this, because it's been awhile since you had anyone who could actually play football.
It's also been quite awhile since Fans outnumbered UM Cops at Football games.
I am just glad all you nolies support and cheer for criminals /rapist on the field...oh it was the victims fault. You guys are such a great bunch. I am sure you won't get the last part so here it is...it was sarcastic.

GO Canes!
 
Originally posted by Uniformed_ReRe:
Getting criticized by Miami over off-field issues is like getting criticized by Al-Qaeda for being too violent. Miami is literally the last program on the planet that is in a position to get all high-and-mighty about other team's dirty laundry. When people criticize FSU, they call us the "New Miami."
It's sooo funny to see FSU and Miami fans coming over here to our board to trash talk each other, what is it with you guys? Take your differences to your own boards, I know you still need our acceptance but you're not getting it from us.
 
Getting back to the original topic...

If FSU chickens-out due to public-pressure (and after the last 18 months, I personally wouldn't mind if we chickened-out here) I wonder what Bell's next step is? Are there any other D1/P5 programs looking at him? Maybe Jimbo can convince someone else to take him, so we don't have to get another "investigative report" from the NY Times.

If that lawsuit costs him a scholarship, and he has no equivalent second-choice, that's serious damage. And there is no question that this damage was direct result of the Johnson family publicly accusing him of murder.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone is working in the background to convince the family to back off, unless they want to be sued themselves.
 
Originally posted by 93nole99:

Originally posted by grommit:

Oh I'm sure it's one of the big draws to signing there in the first place. That and the new required class for freshmen student-athletes, "date rape and 13 steps on how to get out of it."
New board rules prevent the obvious response...so I'll refrain.
If only your athletic department cared as much about following rules as you do.
 
Originally posted by Uniformed_ReRe:
Getting criticized by Miami over off-field issues is like getting criticized by Al-Qaeda for being too violent. Miami is literally the last program on the planet that is in a position to get all high-and-mighty about other team's dirty laundry. When people criticize FSU, they call us the "New Miami."
Well you do have more major NCAA violations compared to UM of UF so ....
 
Duh U is on the rise. Temple Coach, Temple Fans with Temple Tradition. Bring Back Butch! Crying ass panzies. Golden has S Florida on lockdown. Duh U is back. I find nothing wrong with those simpletons looking up to big brother. Waaaaa
 
Originally posted by G8RMark:
Originally posted by Uniformed_ReRe:
Getting criticized by Miami over off-field issues is like getting criticized by Al-Qaeda for being too violent. Miami is literally the last program on the planet that is in a position to get all high-and-mighty about other team's dirty laundry. When people criticize FSU, they call us the "New Miami."
Well you do have more major NCAA violations compared to UM of UF so ....
I didn't realize this but Miami is only one behind FSU in major infractions. 7 for FSU, 6 for Miami.
 
Originally posted by GatorTheo:

Originally posted by G8RMark:
Originally posted by Uniformed_ReRe:
Getting criticized by Miami over off-field issues is like getting criticized by Al-Qaeda for being too violent. Miami is literally the last program on the planet that is in a position to get all high-and-mighty about other team's dirty laundry. When people criticize FSU, they call us the "New Miami."
Well you do have more major NCAA violations compared to UM of UF so ....
I didn't realize this but Miami is only one behind FSU in major infractions. 7 for FSU, 6 for Miami.
Miami has been pretty much clean with Randy Shannon and Golden down there. Those two guys are like Muschamp, more interested in cleaning up the program and doing things the right way, than necessarily getting wins. You don't hear about a lot of shenaningans going on down there because there aren't any and haven't been for a number of years since that last major whopper they had.

FSU on the other hand. Different day, business as usual, and they don't care. If hiring a team full of ISIS members guaranteed them an extra win at the end of the season, their fanbase would be 100% for the decision.
 
So it doesn't matter to you at all that Jameis Winston is innocent and was found innocent by numerous investigative entities, including FDLE and the NCAA? You'd just rather smear his name because he happen to be a great QB at FSU?
 
Originally posted by spencer.borum:
So it doesn't matter to you at all that Jameis Winston is innocent and was found innocent by numerous investigative entities, including FDLE and the NCAA? You'd just rather smear his name because he happen to be a great QB at FSU?
I think Winston smeared his own name. He's got nobody to blame but himself. He does one dumb thing after another.
 
Originally posted by spencer.borum:
So it doesn't matter to you at all that Jameis Winston is innocent and was found innocent by numerous investigative entities, including FDLE and the NCAA? You'd just rather smear his name because he happen to be a great QB at FSU?
Breaking news! Where did you see that?
 
Originally posted by PacoGator19:
Originally posted by spencer.borum:
So it doesn't matter to you at all that Jameis Winston is innocent and was found innocent by numerous investigative entities, including FDLE and the NCAA? You'd just rather smear his name because he happen to be a great QB at FSU?
Breaking news! Where did you see that?
Probably getting his news from Warchant. They have confirmed that Winston was a great guy and all the so called bad stuff was made up by the SEC-loving media.
 
Originally posted by GatorTheo:

Originally posted by PacoGator19:
Originally posted by spencer.borum:
So it doesn't matter to you at all that Jameis Winston is innocent and was found innocent by numerous investigative entities, including FDLE and the NCAA? You'd just rather smear his name because he happen to be a great QB at FSU?
Breaking news! Where did you see that?
Probably getting his news from Warchant. They have confirmed that Winston was a great guy and all the so called bad stuff was made up by the SEC-loving media.
Easy to be found innocent when the local police department intentionally decides not to pursue an investigation for nearly a year and a half, and bungles it up on purpose every step of the way so the prosecution would never have anything to go to court with.

Hell I could become chancellor of Germany, murder 6 million jews and find myself innocent because I'm in charge of the country's justice system and I choose not to investigate myself. It may mean I'm innocent to all the garnet and gold wearing Nazi's at home in Tallahasse, I mean Germany, but it doesn't mean that the rest of the world see's it the same way. In either event I'll still end up having to put a bullet in my brains while hiding deep down underground like a cowardly rat when the truth comes calling and the local SS has fled as I have nothing left to offer them but destruction.
 
So you think the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is a corrupt wing of FSU athletics? Come on guys. I'm all about poking fun at each other's teams, but calling a guy a rapist still after he was found innocent is just sad.


you won't get another chance.
This post was edited on 2/6 9:01 AM by passoverGator
 
Originally posted by spencer.borum:
So you think the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is a corrupt wing of FSU athletics? Come on guys. I'm all about poking fun at each other's teams, but calling a guy a rapist still after he was found innocent is just sad.
Serious question, how old are you? Or maybe you're majoring in law at FSU? You don't seem to know the difference, please show me where Winston was found innocent, we're waiting. This thread is not about Winston anyhow, it's about a whole different situation

This post was edited on 2/6 7:01 AM by passoverGator
 
FSU is smart about backing off this guy. The last thing they need is another media circus similar to what they have recently endured. As self inflicted as much of that was, it was still a major distraction and I guess they want to avoid something similar.

Besides, this guy is not likely to be a once in a generation kind of player. He is probably not worth it, in their minds.
 
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