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Jeff Driskel had a monster game

In 08 and 09, yes...in 05, 06, and even 07, no.

He had a descent base to start with but he had nowhere his type of recruits or the pro level talent base he had in 08-09.

We haven't seen anything even remotely close to this type of system or beautiful play calling since Steven Orr was here.

This offense is absolutely a hybrid of many types of awesomeness from every style of football. Urban Meyers offenses are very very predictable and run on a lot of talent. This offense will work with anyone, as you can see.
 
We haven't seen anything even remotely close to this type of system or beautiful play calling since Steven Orr was here.

This offense is absolutely a hybrid of many types of awesomeness from every style of football. Urban Meyers offenses are very very predictable and run on a lot of talent. This offense will work with anyone, as you can see.

I just can't discredit Meyer's offense like you can. It worked at BG and Utah, those rosters weren't overloaded with NFL talent. I still don't believe OSU out talented Alabama last year. Top to bottom and starter to starter Bama had the talent advantage.

And for a spin-off of Meyer's offensive philosophy look no further than your former team at Starksville. Those guys aren't using talent alone to win big games.
 
I just can't discredit Meyer's offense like you can. It worked at BG and Utah, those rosters weren't overloaded with NFL talent. I still don't believe OSU out talented Alabama last year. Top to bottom and starter to starter Bama had the talent advantage.

And for a spin-off of Meyer's offensive philosophy look no further than your former team at Starksville. Those guys aren't using talent alone to win big games.

Its hate, plain and simple. Meyer is clearly one of GOAT, but Numbers has a long list of reasons why he is 'lucky'.

His offenses don't look 'typical' or like Spurrier's but have been effective everywhere.
 
I just can't discredit Meyer's offense like you can. It worked at BG and Utah, those rosters weren't overloaded with NFL talent. I still don't believe OSU out talented Alabama last year. Top to bottom and starter to starter Bama had the talent advantage.

And for a spin-off of Meyer's offensive philosophy look no further than your former team at Starksville. Those guys aren't using talent alone to win big games.

Its hate, plain and simple. Meyer is clearly one of GOAT, but Numbers has a long list of reasons why he is 'lucky'.

His offenses don't look 'typical' or like Spurrier's but have been effective everywhere.

Jesus Christ no one is discrediting a damn thing. The offenses are completely different, if you can't see that this offense is WAYYYYYYYYY more in depth with the running game, formations, window dressing, motions, passing tree etc.. I can't help you or get in the way of YOUR agenda
 
and Mullen has absolutely used talent to win last year, and since he didn't have it, his system looked awful and they were lucky to win 6 games every year until last year when he finally had the system QB to fit the offense to bulldoze people...

You guys can't really not notice that there is nothing new or innovative about what Meyer and Mullen run. They run the Wing T out of shotgun and HAVE To have more talent for it to work consistently. Look at 2010, he literally left because of it.
 
Mcelwains offense is a little bit of everything and it's going to be absolutely elite especially given the fact that kids will want to play in this offense because everyone touches the ball and everyone shines. Once these recruits start rolling in... and they WILL, this is gonna be an elite football team again. Mcelwain is the right guy
 
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Mcelwains offense is a little bit of everything and it's going to be absolutely elite especially given the fact that kids will want to play in this offense because everyone touches the ball and everyone shines. Once these recruits start rolling in... and they WILL, this is gonna be an elite football team again. Mcelwain is the right guy

I agree but think we get a big reality check on our offense once SEC play starts this season. I do think next season starts the big turnaround in wins however.
 
Jesus Christ no one is discrediting a damn thing. The offenses are completely different, if you can't see that this offense is WAYYYYYYYYY more in depth with the running game, formations, window dressing, motions, passing tree etc.. I can't help you or get in the way of YOUR agenda
Jesus Christ no one is discrediting a damn thing. The offenses are completely different, if you can't see that this offense is WAYYYYYYYYY more in depth with the running game, formations, window dressing, motions, passing tree etc.. I can't help you or get in the way of YOUR agenda
We haven't seen anything even remotely close to this type of system or beautiful play calling since Steven Orr was here.

This offense is absolutely a hybrid of many types of awesomeness from every style of football. Urban Meyers offenses are very very predictable and run on a lot of talent. This offense will work with anyone, as you can see.

Lol, settle down fella. You take it too serious.
 
No, it's the other way around. Im not gonna be told im disregarding Meyers offense when im talking about our offense. Meyers offense is not the same and im not the one with an agenda around here on that nonsense topic
 
Meyer is one of if not the GOAT college football coach. I like McElwain and his offense but it was just 1 game as well.
 
We aren't talking about overall coaches or results. I am talking about the systems on offense, I haven't watched the Gators with a system this outstanding since 2001. The play calling is the most important thing, it's marvelous.
 
The problem is, when people say "the Meyer system is simplistic and relies upon out talenting the opponent" some people say "well duh? What's wrong with that?"

There's a lot wrong with that. He put together two phenomenal classes that made it all work, but we know what happened with the classes of 2008 and onward. There's a reason he wanted to leave after 2009, whether you want to believe it or not. He knew what was coming.

A solid scheme that is intricate enough to mislead defenses but not rely on only top tier play makers is the key to long term success.

Remember. The vast majority of Muschamp's time here was spent with Meyer's later recruiting classes that simply weren't developed well nor evaluated as they had been previously.

Muschamp didn't help the matter by having more poor choices on the offensive side of the ball.

Why people can't acknowledge those things is beyond me.
It's like taboo or something.
 
Mcelwains offense is a little bit of everything and it's going to be absolutely elite especially given the fact that kids will want to play in this offense because everyone touches the ball and everyone shines. Once these recruits start rolling in... and they WILL, this is gonna be an elite football team again. Mcelwain is the right guy

4 years of no one being able to understand, "just how good Muschamp's schemes are", please excuse us while we hold judgement a bit.

The bottom line is that scheme is awesome and all, but 4 things matter:

1. Are we in ATL?

2. Did we win in ATL?

3. Are we in the playoff?

4. Did we win it all?

Now none of that is really reasonable this year, but as of next year, regardless of scheme, those are the questions he will need to answer.

It was an impressive game, but lets see what it looks like in October. All of that said I think we all see this attracting a ton of speed and talent on offense
 
4 years of no one being able to understand, "just how good Muschamp's schemes are", please excuse us while we hold judgement a bit.

The bottom line is that scheme is awesome and all, but 4 things matter:

1. Are we in ATL?

2. Did we win in ATL?

3. Are we in the playoff?

4. Did we win it all?

Now none of that is really reasonable this year, but as of next year, regardless of scheme, those are the questions he will need to answer.

It was an impressive game, but lets see what it looks like in October. All of that said I think we all see this attracting a ton of speed and talent on offense

I'd love to know how Muschamps DEFENSE relates to the new staffs OFFENSE

is our defense now a glaring weakness that will hold the team back like it was for Muschamp with the offense? or were you just trying to take a shot at me
 
He's on TV tonight. Or do you watch N.E. vs Pittsburgh? NFL for me and click over when I can.
 
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