jaydon Hill - Go to hell Fever
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Another 4*
Isn’t that like 4-5 4*s in a row?? Especially since Fever has been whining about recruiting.
Isn’t that like 4-5 4*s in a row?? Especially since Fever has been whining about recruiting.
I think he is a 3 star Rivals but will take anything now. He is going to end up about where I thought is my prediction as far as this Rivals class goes. I will go to hell when we get a top 10 Rivals class like any decent recruiting coach should get at UF in a 2nd class.
Ron Zook and Willie Taggert were/are both ace recruiters and both are dopes as head coaches. I'll take a guy who can coach teams up with good talent over dopes who get better athletes but can't coach them.
Nope, and not a single one, and none in his 1st last class either...
---- #11 OT Ethan White 6-5 315 - Clearwater, FL (E-#11 OG ****)
Offers: UF Hard Commit - UL, Neb, N.C, WVa, Pitt, USF, UCF BC, Duke
#28 OLB Jesiah Pierre 6-2 207 - Mount Dora, FL (R-28 OLB ****)
Offers: UF-UGA-UK---Mia-Neb-NC (scUM flip)
#29 FS/CB Trent Whittenmore 6-3 190 - Gainesville, FL (E-#29 FS ****)
Offers: UF Hard Commit - GaTech, USF, SMs, Yale, Tulane, Troy, Army, SAla
#31 Ath/WR Ja'markis Weston 6-3 195 - Clewiston, FL (E-#31 Ath ****)
Offers: UF 100% - TN, UCF, Fl-Atl, BGSU, Mass.
#32 OT/OG Wardrick Wilson 6-4 295 - Miami, FL (247-#32 OT ****)
Offers: UF Hard Commit - MsSt, UK, LSU, Miz - UL, Mich, Neb, NCSt, USF
#45 WR Dionte Marks 5-11 178 - Deland, FL (E-#45 WR ****)
Offers: UF 100% - MsSt - UL, Neb, WVa, USF, UCF, Fl-Atl, Marshall
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2018 Class
OT Noah Banks rsJr - Pensacola, FL
SS/OLB Amari Burney- St. Petersburg, FL
OT Richard Gourage - Tampa, FL
DE/OLB Andrew Chatfield - Plantation, FL
OLB/SS David Reese - Vero Bch, FL
WR Jacob Copeland - Pensacola, FL
TE/DE Dante Lang - Boca Raton, FL
WR/DB Justin Watkins - Clermont/Ocala, FL
FS John Huggins - Daytona Bch, FL
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#1, I don't G-s-S where the 'Quality' recruits are coming from?
#2, I certainly don't G-a-S what rival's opinions are, they are #3 as far as recruiting services go in my estimation, behind both #1 ESPN and #2 247.
#3, I'm betting that most here think that you're F-o-S when it comes to recruit judging and opinions...
(but the nailed-head and the MD mouth foamer will agree with U) Hill made the Opening Finals, he’ll likely be a high 4-Star by the end of the cycle. And you said we’d be around 17th and we’re 18th right now on 247 with like 10 more slots left. Plus I’d imagine we’ll ‘process’ some of the lower ranked kids later which should get the average even higher. Unless we bomb down the stretch it’ll be a top 10 class.
The problem will be Georgia. With his crazy Bama level recruiting you will need top 5 to 10 range classes every year not to be out talented for likely losses most years.
My last prediction was around 17th or so in Rivals. I still think that will be close. I thought 14th prior to that but I think we will be short of that.
Moe-ron, right now it's #18 247 and #21 rivals, with just 15 verbals.
Using their best ratings, that's 14 ****, 1 ***.
And this is the Offer List for that 3 star: OL Simmons
UF-- UA-AU-Ark-Ky-LSU-Ms-MsSt-Mizz-SCa-aTm-VU (12 SEC's)
Colo, FAU-GaT-KSt-UL-MichSt-Neb-Rut-Va-VaT
Do you really believe 'rivals' 3 star ranking with that offer list???
The 'Fevered-brain, Nailed-head, and the Mad-Dog mouth foamer are 3 of a kind.
And those three 'Turds of a Feather' are all going down the bowl together on NSD, if not long before then...
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40 of the last 44 leghumpers commits 4* or better as instant pounds his chest with another 3* 3* Dan commit
Lol you just move the goal posts whenever is convenient for you.
If we finish top 10, you'll say that it doesn't matter because it's not too 5.
Predictable child.
40 of the last 44 leghumpers commits 4* or better as instant pounds his chest with another 3* 3* Dan commit
Kickin your little delusional nutts up around your reality ears, is not pounding my chest.
BTW, 'to be the best, you have to play and beat the best,' so your dust bowl chokers being in the dwindling has-been Big12-10 is not gonna get you there.
OK 48 - 54 UGly - CFP
OK 14 - 24 UF - BCS-NC
So no matter how much gets paid for those rivals recruiting stars, the media-moron voters can't give OK, TN or NL any more NC's...
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There's no doubt Georgia has recruited at a very high level the last 2-3 years. But Mullen is just getting started and I've been pretty impressed with how he cobbled together an excellent class at the last minute earlier this year and now is slowly building a very solid 2019 class, especially with the way he's addressing needs instead of just grabbing players.
I call bullshit. You just move the goal posts whenever you see fit. You said we would end up with the 21st ranked recruiting class.
Ever since you stated whining about the recruiting class we’ve landed like 5 4* prospects in a row. It’s been pretty funny to watch unfold.
Fever’s having a rough couple of weeks...
Wait ‘til Saturday night. It’s gonna get much worse for him../
Wait ‘til Saturday night. It’s gonna get much worse for him../
How many commits have we gotten since August 1st? Because according to Fever that is when recruiting was over correct?
Jaydon Hill is s composite 4* player. Since August 1st we’ve gotten commitments from like 4-5 4* players.
Right on time as always,,, a couple of minutes behind me...
Diwun Black 8-2
Chester Kimbrough 8-13
Mohamoud Diabate 8-22
Will Harrod 9-2
Jaydon Hill 9-6
Once again, your 'fevered fan' house of flimsy logic cards, collapses under the weight of it's own illogical BS.
Spurrier's 2nd season in 1991 -- Sorry, rivals doesn't go back that far.
And didn't UGA out recruit (ranker's opinions anyway) SOS every year? (W/L record?)
By far, UF was the best team in the SEC during the 1990's, helps recruiting immensely for the coaches that came after him.
Zook's 2nd season in 2003 -- #2 - 26 -- 5 *****, 9 ****, 10 ***, 2 **
He got to ride the SOS/Gator wave for his short 3 years.
Do those 2 classes seem at the same #2 level to anyone? (14 5-4's to 21 5-4's)
The 2000's ear grew out of the 90's success.
Meyer's 2nd season in 2006 -- #2 - 27 -- 4 *****, 17 ****, 5 ***, 1 **
Urban came in as the hottest new young coach in the nation.
He road the Tebow/Harvin/Spikes 5 star wave to glory for 4 years.
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While the 2010's fell apart following the Meyer 2010 cluster/disaster.
Muschamp's 2nd season in 2012 -- #3 - 22 -- 3 *****, 10 ****, 8 ***, 1 **
McElwain's 2nd season in 2016 -- #14 - 25 - 1 *****, 9 ****, 13 ***, 2 **.
Dan is coming in behind what most seem to believe is the worst coaching span debacle in recent UF history. I'd say it's worse that what Dig Ducky did to us. And more difficult that getting over the Pell-Hall NCAA probation periods, because they were at least winners.
Only two 4 win losing seasons since Dig Ducky got run outta town, and Pell went winless his 1st year, and that's one each for Mus and Mc.
Mullens's 2nd season in 2018 -- currently #21 - 15 - 0 *****, 8 ****, 7 ***, 0 ** rivals.
I (iG) said early on, a Top 10, but it would take some real luck to go Top 5
I think that his 3rd class might make it into the Top 5 though, depending on 2018's on the field season outcome. But outsider rankings aside, I'm thrilled with the recruiting job that Dan and his staff have done so far, and are continuing to do. Top Shelf IMOHO.
And those rivals ranking are not written in stone and handed down by gawd to moses from the mount. They are nothing more than the opinions of people that are way less qualified to judge recruits than the Gator coaches are. They aren't even the best or most professional recruit rankers in the business imo.
While a 'fevered fan's' opinions are virtually worthless, as he constantly demonstrates...
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Right on time as always,,, a couple of minutes behind me...
Diwun Black 8-2
Chester Kimbrough 8-13
Mohamoud Diabate 8-22
Will Harrod 9-2
Jaydon Hill 9-6
God forbid someone post information that’s readily available on the internet. Meanwhile you constantly copy and paste information and try to pass it off as your own. You’re such a raging queen.
He’s already switching to we can’t keep up with UGa/Kirby.
So essentially if Mullen isn’t Saban or Urban he is not good at recruiting. So I don’t anticipate him getting on board with Mullen no matter what the team or staff accomplishes
Show me where I moved the goalposts. You guys lie constantly about what I say. My last prediction was 17th or so Rivals ceiling while I was saying the ceiling was probably like 14th or so originally as far as Rivals rankings.
I will be the first one here to say I turned out to be full of crap big time if he somehow pulls a Rivals top 10 class which is what should be the minimum for a UF 2nd class if the coach can recruit decent.
You can even dog me some if he pulls like a 13th or so Rivals class but I will still say its quite substandard for a 2nd class at UF.
This is correct. There is a fair amount of goalpost moving going on with the anti-fever movement, which for some reason is a thing.
Where I think Fever goes a little sideways is in his lack of recognition of the difficult environment Mullen is starting out his recruiting. I agree that normally a class in the low teens would be bad for UF, but given the mess Mullen has to clean up on arrival, I think a class from 10 to 15 would represent pretty steady progress.
These were your exact words from the thread you started.
Gator Fever said: ↑
He could save himself with an actual really good 2020 class. My guess at this point is it will be pedestrian for a UF class outside the top 10 nationally and not in the top 4 classes in the SEC unless he makes some changes to get a good recruiter in here. As far as 2019 goes its a done deal we will have a substandard class imo - around 20th or so. I don't even think my former #14 Rivals ceiling prediction is in play anymore. #18 Rivals may be the best case scenario now.
----- ----- Right. And the way you can tell that the buttsniffers didn't want a recruit, is if he commits to UF, right?
BTW, I'm really glad that for 2018, smarty-pants didn't really want:
RB Daemon Pierce.
CB Trey Dean III
QB-dt Emory Jones
OG Griffin McDowell
2019
DT Jaelin Humphries
OLB Tyron Hopper
OG Riley Simonds (12 of 14 SEC teams offered, including UGly)
And the same goes for those Alabama recruits that UF/Dan can have because Saban doesn't want them....
2018
DE Malik Langham
K Evan McPherson (HS 60 yd FG, 84 yd punt, Kohl's 5 star)
~ He accounted for 10 pts in UF's 1st game, 2-2 FG's and 4 X-pts.
2019:
CB Jaydon Hill
DE Mohamoud Diabate
Dan also gets any W.FL recruits that FSU didn't want, like WR Jacobs.
And any S.FL recruits that the scUM Retch didn't want, that list is long...
I. Rivals class ranking is highly arbitrary and varies greatly, year to year.
(see Zook's #2 second class, compared to Meyer's #2 second class)
2. And the position needs of the team can vary greatly year to year.
3. The number of recruits in the class, i.e. a 17 to 27 average spread at least.
Available ship openings. Quality recruits available at positions of team needs.
4. The difference between a 5 star QB of need, to a 3 star K of need, (that's a 5 star Kohl K'er), can affect the overall class ranking greatly.
5. Many other year to year need variables.
What's important is not some number that rivals puts on a Gator class. What's important is how well the coaching staff can fill the team's needs with top quality student/athlete citizens, that can stay out of trouble, academically eligible, and develop into great college players for UF. And getting a UF degree is bigger than getting an NFL contract imo, WAAAYYY bigger for 97% of the incoming recruits.
Example: Tennis-sea had the #5 Class in 2015. Of those 32 recruits, only 10 are still even on their roster. Do you want Top 5 classes like that, or is the class ranking mostly useless and/or F-o-S???
Right. And the way you can tell that the buttsniffers didn't want a recruit, is if he commits to UF, right?
BTW, I'm really glad that for 2018, smarty-pants didn't really want:
RB Daemon Pierce.
CB Trey Dean III
QB-dt Emory Jones
OG Griffin McDowell
2019
DT Jaelin Humphries
OLB Tyron Hopper
OG Riley Simonds (12 of 14 SEC teams offered, including UGly)
And the same goes for those Alabama recruits that UF/Dan can have because Saban doesn't want them....
2018
DE Malik Langham
K Evan McPherson (HS 60 yd FG, 84 yd punt, Kohl's 5 star)
~ He accounted for 10 pts in UF's 1st game, 2-2 FG's and 4 X-pts.
2019:
CB Jaydon Hill
DE Mohamoud Diabate
Dan also gets any W.FL recruits that FSU didn't want, like WR Jacobs.
And any S.FL recruits that the scUM Retch didn't want, that list is long...
Correct, none of those guys were takes. Why in the hellwould we want Emory Jones when we got Justin Fields?!?!?!?
"May" OK 18 instead of 17 there and I said 17th or so after that. That is just nitpicking and people have lied many times about my claims.
Like I said above I hopefully have to admit I was way off and an idiot and he gets a top 10 Rivals class and I will even admit I was off quite a bit since I changed my original goalpost (14th or so best case) to a worse class prediction if he even gets like a 13th or so ranked Rivals class.
I'm sure everybody is having fun with this thread, but it's all speculation until NSD in February. Even the early signing period will not tell the whole story. I do know that UF's recruiting is definitely trending up and that should be good news to all Gators.
Lol now we're all liars.
Okay.
It's just insanely frustrating that you dog every negative move for months and then when we've had good recruit after good recruit come on board, we're lucky to hear barely an acknowledgment of it out of you.
Okay.
It's just insanely frustrating that you dog every negative move for months and then when we've had good recruit after good recruit come on board, we're lucky to hear barely an acknowledgment of it out of you.
I was curious why a guy who gets so much info from 247 won’t even use their composite rankings that average all the sites. A little research shows Rivals has some of our soon to be commits (like Zip) ranked SIGNIFICANTLY lower than most other sites. I would wager our composite class may end up around 10. And just like last years cycle, suddenly Mullen is getting interest from top players who were considered ‘locks’ elsewhere, ie - Chatfield. I think Fever just spoke way too much, way too soon
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