$*IT may hit the fan soon in Oxford

[TennesseeGator]

Hear the confession from Tunsil tonight during his interview?

I knew Hugh Freeze was shady since his Briarcrest High School coaching days and how he and the Ole Miss booster family mysteriously found Michael Oher on the streets.

Some of y'all wanted him to coach here when Muschamp was fired. I'm glad he didn't.

 

[46885]

Nothing will happen to money bag schools, unless bama has something directly to do with this because they are tired of losing to them. Because bama's players are all 6 times the size of our smallest player in history to ever take steroids and get done in for winning too many games. I can't take any of those programs seriously with all their bullshit, magically ole miss just happened to have historical classes of a lifetime when everyone knew what was going on... yet bama never c atches shit for anything, not a single thing they do ever.

 

[alaskanseminole]

...magically ole miss just happened to have historical classes of a lifetime when everyone knew what was going on...

Everyone with a pulse has been saying this...NCAA must be getting some fat pockets on this one. smh

 

[PacoGator19]

Hear the confession from Tunsil tonight during his interview?

I knew Hugh Freeze was shady since his Briarcrest High School coaching days and how he and the Ole Miss booster family mysteriously found Michael Oher on the streets.

Some of y'all wanted him to coach here when Muschamp was fired. I'm glad he didn't.

I don't think anybody is surprised by this but the NCAA isn't going to do anything about it.

 

[sadgator]

The case is too big of a public shitstorm for them not to do something...and they are already investigating.

Something is going to come of this for sure...

 

[mnole03]

 

[MJWilliamson]

 

[mcanes]

Everyone with a pulse has been saying this...NCAA must be getting some fat pockets on this one. smh

SEC SEC SEC.

GO Canes!

 

[93nole99]

The NCAA doesn't ignore University officials paying players. They'll investigate for sure. Problem for the NCAA is they have no ability to issue subpoenas or force third parties like Banks to turn over records.

 

[sadgator]

They'll investigate for sure.

As sadgator understands it, they already are investigating Ole' Miss. This just provides a very public confirmation of the stuff they are looking for. Couldn't have been worse timed for Ole Miss.

 

[instaGATOR]

Tallycrappy and Mi-Am-I, the best cities to find large recruiting 'Glass Houses' in.... - -

Note: Conferences don't cheat, coaches, teams and/or schools do the cheating...

 

[93nole99]

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Note: Conferences don't cheat, coaches, teams and/or schools do the cheating...

I agree with you completely. Conferences don't play football either...but somehow they get credit for wins, losses and championships...

 

[MJWilliamson]

I agree with you completely. Conferences don't play football either...but somehow they get credit for wins, losses and championships...

Using this logic, Universities don't play football either. In fact, it is really only the players that play football or any other sport. Now, coaches can and do cheat. but they don't play any sport. And as we have seen in the case of FSU, in addition to coaches and players cheating, tutors, professors and other University personnel can also engage in cheating.

So, Using FSU as the example, I guess conference officials could cheat, if they were so inclined.

 

[TNole902]

The NCAA doesn't ignore University officials paying players. They'll investigate for sure. Problem for the NCAA is they have no ability to issue subpoenas or force third parties like Banks to turn over records.

but they are not burdened by "beyond a reasonable doubt"

 

[bradleygator]

The case is too big of a public shitstorm for them not to do something...and they are already investigating.

Something is going to come of this for sure...

I agree. With texts to a coach public, the NCAA is going to have to do something. Like the Gubna' said in Blazing Saddles: "our phoney baloney jobs are at stake!"

The only question is whether Ole Miss is going to be able to peddle the BS that the coach was acting on his own. To quote another great movie: "shocked! yes shocked!"

 

[oozie7]

I find it funny that whenever Bama is under the gun, another school suddenly gets popped for cheating. Tunsil is being talked about all the while Bama's coach just resigned after he was found to have been illegally paying players AND already got popped once for hooking a player up with an agent. And he's been at Bama 6 years, I doubt it just started. But apparently Saban signing #1 class after #1 class with 5-star backing up 5-star isn't suspicious at all. Funny how that works.

 

[850_Chris]

I find it funny that whenever Bama is under the gun, another school suddenly gets popped for cheating. Tunsil is being talked about all the while Bama's coach just resigned after he was found to have been illegally paying players AND already got popped once for hooking a player up with an agent. And he's been at Bama 6 years, I doubt it just started. But apparently Saban signing #1 class after #1 class with 5-star backing up 5-star isn't suspicious at all. Funny how that works.

Yep...kinda convenient for them,isn't it? Btw...the media is Alabama's best recruiting tool because they are always boosting up Bama in some way. Yet...we have 2 players go in the top 17 and they haven't mentioned it ONCE!

 

[MJWilliamson]

This is from TMZ, so take it with a grain of salt, I guess (at least until it's picked up elsewhere), but it's both unsurprising and amusing.

Ole Miss football coach Hugh Freeze says he does NOT want to testify in the Laremy Tunsil domestic violence civil case ... citing concerns that his testimony might be used in an NCAA investigation...

The stepdad now wants to depose Laremy's college football coach Hugh Freeze -- believing he has information that will help prove his story.

But Freeze doesn't want that to happen -- and has filed court docs to block the deposition -- in part because "at this time, the NCAA is considering allegations against the University and its football program, including allegations related to [Tunsil]."

He does not expand on the allegations.

Freeze says he's concerned that any information from the deposition could be accessed by NCAA investigators and possibly used against him ... and he doesn't believe that's fair.

If the judge DOES force Freeze to testify, he at least wants the transcripts sealed to prevent the NCAA from getting their hands on it.​

This is not a good look for you, man.

 

[TennesseeGator]

This is from TMZ, so take it with a grain of salt, I guess (at least until it's picked up elsewhere), but it's both unsurprising and amusing.

Ole Miss football coach Hugh Freeze says he does NOT want to testify in the Laremy Tunsil domestic violence civil case ... citing concerns that his testimony might be used in an NCAA investigation...

The stepdad now wants to depose Laremy's college football coach Hugh Freeze -- believing he has information that will help prove his story.

But Freeze doesn't want that to happen -- and has filed court docs to block the deposition -- in part because "at this time, the NCAA is considering allegations against the University and its football program, including allegations related to [Tunsil]."

He does not expand on the allegations.

Freeze says he's concerned that any information from the deposition could be accessed by NCAA investigators and possibly used against him ... and he doesn't believe that's fair.

If the judge DOES force Freeze to testify, he at least wants the transcripts sealed to prevent the NCAA from getting their hands on it.​

This is not a good look for you, man.

I'm telling you, Freeze is crooked. He really is.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Ole Miss’ faucet has an annoying drip.
by Senator Blutarsky
That text message conversation that saw the light of day at the NFL draft? Ole Miss admits it's real and it's spectacular.

Ole Miss officials have determined that a text message conversation published to Miami Dolphins rookie Laremy Tunsil's Instagram account during the NFL draft did happen last year, sources told ESPN's Outside the Lines, but the school is still looking into whether the messages were altered before they were published.​

Looking into? The parties involved don't know if they were altered? Maybe it's just me, but if I were an assistant athletic director, I'm pretty sure I'd remember a conversation I had with a player who was asking for money - especially one who was suspended for half a season for taking improper benefits.

The Rebels received an NCAA notice of allegations in late January but have released few details about the investigation. The sources said Ole Miss officials expect to respond to the NCAA later this month.​

Better get those loose ends tied up fast, boys.

 

[LizardGrad89]

I agree with you completely. Conferences don't play football either...but somehow they get credit for wins, losses and championships...

And conferences don't get tarred with the cheating brush? Ask the SWC about that one.

 

[MJWilliamson]

And conferences don't get tarred with the cheating brush? Ask the SWC about that one.

Boom.

That left a mark.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Money talks.
by Senator Blutarsky

I'm sure Laremy Tunsil won't talk about it anymore. Hugh Freeze would prefer not to talk about it. The people in the Ole Miss athletic office will reluctantly talk to the NCAA about it.

Lindsay Miller, on the other hand, can't shut up about it.

Miller claims Tunsil’s academic records were altered. He said [Tunsil's mother Deseree] Polingo used to receive Western Union deliveries of money from Barney Farrar, Ole Miss assistant athletic director for high school and junior college relations. An apparent reference to Farrar was made in the year-old text messages on draft night; when Tunsil asked the Ole Miss administrator for money, he responds, “See Barney next week.”​

I know it's easy to hide things on the receiving end of a Western Union transfer, but I was under the impression that there is a paper trail on the front end. Assuming what Miller says is true, wouldn't cash have been a safer means of taking care of her? Of course, the NCAA can't subpoena Western Union, but it can sure look around Farrar's records.

How many times do you figure Miller has spoken with NCAA investigators by now?

 

[93nole99]

Smear teams, not conferences, for transgressions. Reward teams not conferences for winning. Basic.

 

[instaGATOR]

Way to late, you are,,,, -- SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC.

Of course if your most famous HBC joined the All Cupcake Conference; because he knew that he could avoid injuries caused by the conference SoS, vastly inflate his winning %, and increase his chances to play for a NC,,, then you would probably have a much different opinion.

 

[TennesseeGator]

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...eleases-notice-allegations-response/84969156/

 

[bradleygator]

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...eleases-notice-allegations-response/84969156/

It does not look good for Ole Miss. Reading this story, you really get a sense of the absurdity of the NCAA regulations and compliance regime. The only purpose is to carry on the fiction that the athletes in revenue generating sports are amateurs and students, in order to justify not paying them. It's glaringly obvious. You would think that it can't last much longer.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Dan Wolken Verified account ‏@DanWolken
Among the first four allegations against Ole Miss, three are Level 1 accusations against the football program within he Hugh Freeze era

 

[oozie7]

And still no notice of allegations for Alabama. I act...

 

[TennesseeGator]

And still no notice of allegations for Alabama. I act...

One story at a time. Bama's ish was minor infractions,(this time) similar to UF /Joker Phillips. This is some major ish.

Hugh Freeze is a dirty player

 

[ifuaintagatorumustbegatorbait]

Isn't it curious that the track and field and women's basketball coaches are no longer there because of their alleged involvement, but Ole Hugh seems to be safe as a kitten. smdh

 

[oozie7]

One story at a time. Bama's ish was minor infractions,(this time) similar to UF /Joker Phillips. This is some major ish.

Hugh Freeze is a dirty player

No the coach that resigned at Bama was funneling players to agents before and got popped for that. IIRC he even fronted a player some money.

That doesn't matter though, they've found to have been doing tons of shady ish in the past...see car dealerships and tuxedo store, and nothing ever comes of it. I find it hard to believe that everyone says teams like LSU, UT, Auburn, etc. cheat their ass off and Bama outrecruits all these teams every year and no one finds it suspicious? Bama's roster next year is projected to have the most 4 and 5-star recruits on one roster EVER. They're the only school, in the last few decades, to consistently have 5-stars backing up 5-stars year-after-year. No other dynasty did it. Not USC, not FSU under Bowden, not Spurrier, not Texas under Mack Brown, Not OU and Stoops, not Meyer at UF or OSU and on and on. Things ain't on the up and up there even if you disregard the leaks that have come out of there.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Isn't it curious that the track and field and women's basketball coaches are no longer there because of their alleged involvement, but Ole Hugh seems to be safe as a kitten. smdh

Yes very odd

 

[TennesseeGator]

No the coach that resigned at Bama was funneling players to agents before and got popped for that. IIRC he even fronted a player some money.

That doesn't matter though, they've found to have been doing tons of shady ish in the past...see car dealerships and tuxedo store, and nothing ever comes of it. I find it hard to believe that everyone says teams like LSU, UT, Auburn, etc. cheat their ass off and Bama outrecruits all these teams every year and no one finds it suspicious? Bama's roster next year is projected to have the most 4 and 5-star recruits on one roster EVER. They're the only school, in the last few decades, to consistently have 5-stars backing up 5-stars year-after-year. No other dynasty did it. Not USC, not FSU under Bowden, not Spurrier, not Texas under Mack Brown, Not OU and Stoops, not Meyer at UF or OSU and on and on. Things ain't on the up and up there even if you disregard the leaks that have come out of there.

Yes true. Maybe once this Ole Miss storm blows over they will take a short drive over and down to Tuscaloosa. They've popped Alabama a couple of times in my lifetime that I remember. Maybe some of this will catch up to them.

Ole Miss on the other hand. Noway they come out of nowhere and land the top recruits like they did with the Tunsil and company. A coach coming from the NAIA ranks just don't work magic like that.

 

[Dannygator1989]

And everyone was begging for Foley to hire him.

 

[MJWilliamson]

And everyone was begging for Foley to hire him.

And some of those are the biggest critics of McE and staff.

 

[46885]

how in the hell could anyone be a critic of mcelwain?




http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...elwain-mike-bianchi-0526-20160525-column.html

 

[Gator22222]

I find it funny that whenever Bama is under the gun, another school suddenly gets popped for cheating. Tunsil is being talked about all the while Bama's coach just resigned after he was found to have been illegally paying players AND already got popped once for hooking a player up with an agent. And he's been at Bama 6 years, I doubt it just started. But apparently Saban signing #1 class after #1 class with 5-star backing up 5-star isn't suspicious at all. Funny how that works.

The Bama DL coach that resigned, Bo Davis, was being investigated by the NCAA for impermissible contact with recruits.

I have not seen any reports anywhere that claim that he "just resigned after he was found to have been illegally paying players". Can you please provide a link to the article claiming he was paying players?

According to this article:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/05/new_details_regarding_potentia.html

"The NCAA contacted Alabama's compliance office regarding the situation, and Davis was questioned and caught being dishonest before eventually resigning, according to the source."

It sounds like another school heard about the impermissible contact and called the NCAA. It also sounds like Bama cooperated and removed the coach. There is precedence for that being the end of the case. Basically the same thing happened with Phillips at Florida.

I also can not find any information about Bo Davis committing previous NCAA infractions. College players are allowed to speak to agents as long as they do not sign with them or accept benefits. Many schools have approved lists of agents and direct student athletes towards those individuals. "Hooking a player up with an agent" would not be an NCAA infraction.

 

[oozie7]

The Bama DL coach that resigned, Bo Davis, was being investigated by the NCAA for impermissible contact with recruits.

I have not seen any reports anywhere that claim that he "just resigned after he was found to have been illegally paying players". Can you please provide a link to the article claiming he was paying players?

According to this article:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/05/new_details_regarding_potentia.html

"The NCAA contacted Alabama's compliance office regarding the situation, and Davis was questioned and caught being dishonest before eventually resigning, according to the source."

It sounds like another school heard about the impermissible contact and called the NCAA. It also sounds like Bama cooperated and removed the coach. There is precedence for that being the end of the case. Basically the same thing happened with Phillips at Florida.

I also can not find any information about Bo Davis committing previous NCAA infractions. College players are allowed to speak to agents as long as they do not sign with them or accept benefits. Many schools have approved lists of agents and direct student athletes towards those individuals. "Hooking a player up with an agent" would not be an NCAA infraction.

I mixed up the coaches. It was the strength coach who was 'loaning' players money, see story below. Bama got off just by having the player pay it back, but a clear violation happened. The coach 'loaning' players money supposedly happened pretty often and Dix allegedly told of borrowing money from this coach before he even got on campus in the past. And unsurprisingly, the strength coach had connections to an agent, an agent that I think Dix later signed with. Not hard to put two and two together to figure out where the money being funneled to players was coming from.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...g-money-from-coach/1d5vbiak7jjib1fx98r81lb38h

 

[Gator22222]

I mixed up the coaches. It was the strength coach who was 'loaning' players money, see story below. Bama got off just by having the player pay it back, but a clear violation happened. The coach 'loaning' players money supposedly happened pretty often and Dix allegedly told of borrowing money from this coach before he even got on campus in the past. And unsurprisingly, the strength coach had connections to an agent, an agent that I think Dix later signed with. Not hard to put two and two together to figure out where the money being funneled to players was coming from.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...g-money-from-coach/1d5vbiak7jjib1fx98r81lb38h

Thanks for the link. That one does seem a bit shady. The only way they got out of it was by Clinton-Dix cooperating and turning over his bank records. If the player and coach were telling the truth then the NCAA got it right by accepting the temporary suspension. However, that situation would definitely put them on the radar.

BTW, according to the article you referenced he did not sign with that agent.