It is now officially Florida-Jortgia week.

[93nole99]

Numbers always have SoS modifiers. FSUcks stats are always a prime example of that.
The proof of that is demonstrated in FSUcks 19 - 24 GaTech....

I was comparing the numbers from UF and UGA. Is there an SoS adjustment needed between schools from the same conference and division?

 

[grommit]

I was comparing the numbers from UF and UGA. Is there an SoS adjustment needed between schools from the same conference and division?

All I know is that neither Georgia nor FSU will be ranked when we play them, so both are hurting our SoS this year...

 

[instaGATOR]

I was comparing the numbers from UF and UGA. Is there an SoS adjustment needed between schools from the same conference and division?

Someone who doesn't understand conferences (he's a cupcake) or SoS's.

1) There are the 4 OoC opponent differences.
2) There are the 2 SECw opponent differences.
3) There are the clueless,,, like yourself.... -- --

PS

I misquoted the FSU/GaTech game score and you missed it.
I have already gone back to my original (page 1) post and listed the correction.
FSUcks 16 - 22 GaTech....

 

[G8RMark]

We win this game and we are the SEC East champs.

Actually we would still need to beat Vandy next weekend.

 

[MJWilliamson]

All I know is that neither Georgia nor FSU will be ranked when we play them, so both are hurting our SoS this year...

Not true. UGA is #23 in the coaches poll. And #30 in the AP

 

[MJWilliamson]

Depends on your offense. If you can't run the ball (like you couldn't against LSU), the game will depend on Harris. What is UF's strength on offense? Is it the passing game?

It is the coaching.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Actually we would still need to beat Vandy next weekend.

Or Vandy to lose one game

 

[instaGATOR]

Actually we would still need to beat Vandy next weekend.

Or @ SCa the following week, IF Vandy should pull off the miracle win against us.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Last week at No. 6 LSU, Harris completed 5-of-6 passes for 46 yards and threw both touchdowns against LSU’s blitz. In Florida’s first two games of the season, Harris
was 3-of-4 for 42 yards and a touchdown against the blitz.

In addition at LSU, Harris completed 8-of-15 passes for 214 yards with a touchdown on throws of 10 or more yards downfield. In Harris’ first two games, he was 8-of-11 for
189 yards with two touchdowns and zero interceptions. Harris registered a 99.7 total QBR on those passes, and his 15.5 yards per attempt on those throws ranks second among 71 Power 5 quarterbacks with at least 25 such attempts, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

 

[PacoGator19]

Despite not running the ball well recently I believe we'll have a successful running game vs. UGA. Heck, we ran for 400 on them last year.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Despite not running the ball well recently I believe we'll have a successful running game vs. UGA. Heck, we ran for 400 on them last year.

Didn't Kelvin run for 100+ vs UT?

Vs common opponent Bama, UT's Dline held Bama in check compared to UGA's defense.

I see no reason why we can't have a RB run for over 100.

We still dwelling on the LSU game?

 

[TennesseeGator]

If we shut down their running game is over. I doubt Lambert can beat us.

This can turn into a blow out if our OL finds a way to keep improving, and we can start getting our running game going. Scarlett- I want to see him get more carries.

The other Jordan (as I predicted) is better than Scarlett...so it is Cronkite who needs more carries.

2-3 carries a non blow out game is a good number for Scarlett. Cronk needs 8-10 if possible.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Didn't Kelvin run for 100+ vs UT??

He ran 197 yards against UGA last year and 102 against UT this year.

 

[93nole99]

He ran 197 yards against UGA last year and 102 against UT this year.

He had better yards per carry in both 2013 and 2014 when compared to this year. He's averaging about 67 yards per game this season. UT is his best total of 2015 and his only 100 yard game. His worst was last week when he ran for 25 yards on 15 tries. He could have a breakout against UGA and break 100 again. If you can run on UGA, you will win.

 

[MJWilliamson]

He had better yards per carry in both 2013 and 2014 when compared to this year. He's averaging about 67 yards per game this season. UT is his best total of 2015 and his only 100 yard game. His worst was last week when he ran for 25 yards on 15 tries. He could have a breakout against UGA and break 100 again. If you can run on UGA, you will win.

I think his OL was a lot better last year. Given that two of them are now blocking in the NFL.

 

[MJWilliamson]

BTW, we don't really need or want FSU fans in these UGA threads, with thinly veiled criticisms and passive aggressive behavior.

 

[GatorGray]

BTW, we don't really need or want FSU fans in these UGA threads, with thinly veiled criticisms and passive aggressive behavior.

QFT

 

[austingtr]

The other Jordan (as I predicted) is better than Scarlett...so it is Cronkite who needs more carries.

2-3 carries a non blow out game is a good number for Scarlett. Cronk needs 8-10 if possible.

Cronkrite had an ankle issue I thought?

 

[CompuGator]

I wonder what dirty tactic Richt has in mind for Saturday to try to fire his team up... ala dancing in the endzone.

I'm more interested in learning whether preparations are on schedule for airplanes to tow "COACH RICHT--PLEASE COME HOME TO MIAMI" aerial banners over the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party. Preferably flying low enough that even Uga would leave his air-conditioned dog house to get a better view.

In 1980--1982, Richt was a quarterback at U. Miami. But not the quarterback. Poor Mark! His playing time might've been very scarce: He apparently arrived in the same Canes' recruiting class as Jim Kelly (an eventual Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee for the Buffalo Bills), so Richt's primary role was as Kelly's back-up.

 

[LizardGrad89]

I got a bad feeling about this game...

The only thing that worried me about this game blew out his knee a couple of weeks ago.

 

[LizardGrad89]

I'm more interested in learning whether preparations are on schedule for airplanes to tow "COACH RICHT--PLEASE COME HOME TO MIAMI" aerial banners over the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party. Preferably flying low enough that even Uga would leave his air-conditioned dog house to get a better view.

In 1980--1982, Richt was a quarterback at U. Miami. But not the quarterback. Poor Mark! His playing time might've been very scarce: He apparently arrived in the same Canes' recruiting class as Jim Kelly (an eventual Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee for the Buffalo Bills), so Richt's primary role was as Kelly's back-up.

Miami would have to be the most desperate team in the history of college football to put banners up begging for Richt.

 

[46885]

If we shut down their running game is over. I doubt Lambert can beat us.

This can turn into a blow out if our OL finds a way to keep improving, and we can start getting our running game going. Scarlett- I want to see him get more carries.

Coaches already said Scarlett will be getting more carries from now on.

 

[oozie7]

Last week at No. 6 LSU, Harris completed 5-of-6 passes for 46 yards and threw both touchdowns against LSU’s blitz. In Florida’s first two games of the season, Harris
was 3-of-4 for 42 yards and a touchdown against the blitz.

In addition at LSU, Harris completed 8-of-15 passes for 214 yards with a touchdown on throws of 10 or more yards downfield. In Harris’ first two games, he was 8-of-11 for
189 yards with two touchdowns and zero interceptions. Harris registered a 99.7 total QBR on those passes, and his 15.5 yards per attempt on those throws ranks second among 71 Power 5 quarterbacks with at least 25 such attempts, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

Nice drop. I had mentioned something similar in the LSU game thread. Harris played really well up until those last two drives, which were awful. So naturally the last impression is the only thing anybody remembers. But all the talk about him holding the ball, missing hots on receivers, etc. is way overblown. He still needs tons of work, but a decent foundation is there. I think we need to throw on 1st more because we can't keep running for 1 and 2 yard gains and getting put in obvious passing situations every drive.

 

[PacoGator19]

Nice drop. I had mentioned something similar in the LSU game thread. Harris played really well up until those last two drives, which were awful. So naturally the last impression is the only thing anybody remembers. But all the talk about him holding the ball, missing hots on receivers, etc. is way overblown. He still needs tons of work, but a decent foundation is there. I think we need to throw on 1st more because we can't keep running for 1 and 2 yard gains and getting put in obvious passing situations every drive.

we throw on 1st down a lot. The most I've ever seen us throw on 1st down since Spurrier.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Nice drop. I had mentioned something similar in the LSU game thread. Harris played really well up until those last two drives, which were awful. So naturally the last impression is the only thing anybody remembers. But all the talk about him holding the ball, missing hots on receivers, etc. is way overblown. He still needs tons of work, but a decent foundation is there. I think we need to throw on 1st more because we can't keep running for 1 and 2 yard gains and getting put in obvious passing situations every drive.

Agree with everything. The good news? We have a coaching staff that can actually, well, coach! That understands the strengths and weaknesses of all our players and game plan around them. That knows the strengthens and weaknesses of the opposition and takes advantage of them. I hope I am not being to Polly Anna about it, but the fact that Mac has had two week to prepare for UGA gives me some hope

 

[oozie7]

I always worry about bye weeks. There's that fine line between practicing too much, and practicing too little. It's a lot harder to manage than people give credit for.

And Paco I agree we throw way more on 1st than we have been, even under Meyer. But the LSU gameplan I recall maybe 4 drives we threw on 1st, I'm probably off though. Then again they probably just wanted to play it safe seeing as how we had a guy who hadn't played in weeks taking snaps. I'll be concerned if that's the plan moving forward. I'd like to see a bit more motion to confuse keys when we run too, it would probably help. Right now the only plays we run out of our pistol is inside zone, outside zone, and once in a while power. We're way to easy to defend in the run game.

 

[MJWilliamson]

we throw on 1st down a lot. The most I've ever seen us throw on 1st down since Spurrier.

This tweaked my interest.

In 2015, we have had 210- first down plays, we passed on 43% of them for 66% completion rate.

In 2014, we had 355 first down play. We passed 32% of the time for 53%

In 2013, we had 333 first down plays. We passed 29% of the time for 53%

We pass more on first down, and are far more successful.

 

[oozie7]

Unsurprisingly. It's when you have the most basic coverages on defense. You're likely seeing quarters or cover 3 a good percentage of the time. Makes it easy to scheme up a pass play. Why more coaches don't take advantage of that is beyond me.

 

[CompuGator]

[1st down i]s when you have the most basic coverages on defense. You're likely seeing quarters or cover 3 a good percentage of the time. Makes it easy to scheme up a pass play. Why more coaches don't take advantage of that is beyond me.

It's beyond me, too. Why would an offensive coach be willing to allow his opponent's defense even a little edge by showing a statistically significant tendency on 1st down? Allowing such tendencies would be illogical.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Georgia secondary preparing for first half against Florida without Dominick Sanders

ATHENS

Flagged for a targeting violation in the third quarter against Missouri, safety Dominick Sanders will be forced to sit out the first half against Florida this Saturday. It’s a bit of a blow for Georgia, although it had to deal with Sanders’ loss for most of the second half during its 9-6 win over Missouri.

The Bulldogs have been preparing for Sanders' absence to start the game since last week.

“He’s a great player back there,” outside linebacker Davin Bellamy said. “We have a lot of confidence knowing he’s back there, he’s a playmaker. I'm pretty sure the guys behind him are ready to play. All those guys prepare hard. I’m pretty sure we won’t miss a beat.”

The tandem of Johnathan Abram and Quincy Mauger will be expected to play for the first two quarters. From there, Sanders will enter, with the other two safeties likely rotating in various packages. Head coach Mark Richt said Aaron Davis is someone Georgia can turn to at safety if needed.

For Mauger and Abram, it’ll be a bit different to see the rotation change when Sanders is able to enter the game.

“It’s one of those things where you have to stay locked in,” Mauger said. “Coaches do a great job of rotating everybody in and making sure everybody knows exactly what we need to prepare for. No matter what situation comes at hand, or type of adversity that comes in front of us, we know how to face it.”

Read more here: http://www.macon.com...l#storylink=cpy

 

[MJWilliamson]

This is only the second time since 2009 that Florida has been the Vegas favorite (Florida by 2.5) . The other time was 2012, and Georgia won that game. (**** Muschamp)

Florida was supposed to be rebuilding this year under new coach Jim McElwain. Earlier this summer Georgia was placed as a 12-point favorite over the Gators in very early lines, according to Edwards. Georgia was still a 7-point “chalk” favorite as late as Sept. 28, before the Alabama game. Two losses by Georgia later, it was down to a 1-point favorite over then-unbeaten Florida.

Then came the suspension to Florida quarterback Will Grier suspension, which may have affected the Westgate’s early line, despite Florida’s relatively good showing at LSU, and Georgia’s lackluster win over Missouri.

Edwards, going into handicapping mode, said the quarterback match-up “is a wash” between Florida’s Treon Harris and Georgia’s Greyson Lambert. Florida has the superior defense, Edwards thinks, and also has the “mental edge” because of its success in Jacksonville over the past 25 years.

“On the flip side, UGA took a major confidence hit against Alabama. And then you lose your star, in addition to a 24-point lead at Tennessee, and you’ve got a team on the ropes. The Bulldogs pulled out a narrow win over Missouri, but the offense struggled mightily,” Edwards said. “All that equates to Florida justifiably being favored.

https://www.dawgnation.com/football/team-news/florida-favored-but-not-heavily-over-a-revived-georgia

 

[oozie7]

It's beyond me, too. Why would an offensive coach be willing to allow his opponent's defense even a little edge by showing a statistically significant tendency on 1st down? Allowing such tendencies would be illogical.

So they can break tendency in crucial moments. You have to always be thinking a few plays and even games ahead.

 

[grommit]

Not true. UGA is #23 in the coaches poll. And #30 in the AP

Still that really doesn't help us much. The Ole Miss win so far was our signature win of the season, but them losing to Memphis hurt that a lot, especially on the same day we pulled our first loss to LSU. At least they kicked ATM's face in this past weekend. Need those mulleteers to keep winning and stay relevant to help our situation out. FSU is a lost cause. Unless they hire a completely different defense before the clempson game, there's no way at all they will be considered a decent opponent for us.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Are you worried about SOS? I am not. We win out, we are in the playoffs. In fact, Florida, Alabama and LSU are all in the same situation. Win out and get an invite.

 

[GatorGray]

Are you worried about SOS? I am not. We win out, we are in the playoffs. In fact, Florida, Alabama and LSU are all in the same situation. Win out and get an invite.

If Ole Miss wins out, then they are a two loss SEC Champ with a "bad" loss (perceived anyway). That is a nightmare scenario for the SEC.

 

[MJWilliamson]

If Ole Miss wins out, then they are a two loss SEC Champ with a "bad" loss (perceived anyway). That is a nightmare scenario for the SEC.

That could indeed happen. I doubt it will though.

 

[oozie7]

If Ole Miss wins out, then they are a two loss SEC Champ with a "bad" loss (perceived anyway). That is a nightmare scenario for the SEC.

Why? We don't need other SEC teams winning titles, they just need to do fairly well in OOC and in the bowl games to keep reputation up. Other than that, to hell with them winning titles. It doesn't help us at all.

 

[TennesseeGator]

If Ole Miss wins out, then they are a two loss SEC Champ with a "bad" loss (perceived anyway). That is a nightmare scenario for the SEC.

If Memphis wins out it won't be that bad of a loss. Memphis may end up with more impressive resume then Clemson. But Ole Miss winning or losing won't amount to that much concerning Florida in the long run. We are exaggerating all too much

 

[GatorGray]

Why? We don't need other SEC teams winning titles, they just need to do fairly well in OOC and in the bowl games to keep reputation up. Other than that, to hell with them winning titles. It doesn't help us at all.

Nightmare for the SEC (office) as they want to get a team into the playoffs. Not a nightmare for UF.

 

[oozie7]

Nightmare for the SEC (office) as they want to get a team into the playoffs. Not a nightmare for UF.

Oh gotcha, makes sense.