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It’s NORVELLLLLL, with 5 L’s. No, SORRY 6 L’s.

There's just no way they fire him.

Honestly, they might as well just concede the next few years and let him rebuild the program and get their finances back in order.

No big time coach will want to touch that program right now and frankly they don't have the money. So what do they do? Lose more money on another buyout and then risk it on a cheap, unproven coach?

This roster is a mess, that's their problem.
This is dead on. We pretty much have to weather this storm as best we can. We’re not totally broke but we certainly can’t afford to just fire him after one season considering this isn’t a Norvell problem. He didn’t start this train off the cliff he’s just trying to find some wings to put on it to get it back on track.

Luckily, the ACC is down outside of Clemson so wins, even wins against weaker opponents, help perception. We just need 2021 to get here and get started. Norvell is our guy for a few years. Lord, help him. Fortunately, I have a huge wiener so a bad season doesn’t kill my sense of self worth.
 
There's just no way they fire him.

Honestly, they might as well just concede the next few years and let him rebuild the program and get their finances back in order.

No big time coach will want to touch that program right now and frankly they don't have the money. So what do they do? Lose more money on another buyout and then risk it on a cheap, unproven coach?

This roster is a mess, that's their problem.
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I think Norvell is a pretty good coach but I don’t think he is good enough or the type of coach to rebuild a program. It’s a tall order to go from a non-power 5 program to a Power 5 program that is a complete mess. He’s having to do something and experience something he’s never had to do before and that is rebuild a program.
 
I think Norvell is a pretty good coach but I don’t think he is good enough or the type of coach to rebuild a program. It’s a tall order to go from a non-power 5 program to a Power 5 program that is a complete mess. He’s having to do something and experience something he’s never had to do before and that is rebuild a program.
Yep. He may end up just being the guy that keeps the ship from running aground. Avoid the rocks and sand long enough to eventually replace him with a more talented and seasoned captain. #fingerscrossed
 
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Yep. He may end up just being the guy that keeps the ship from running aground. Avoid the rocks and sand long enough to eventually replace him with a more talented and seasoned captain. #fingerscrossed

And I think that's exactly what FSU has to do.

Wait it out. Get rid of the remnants of Jimbo and retool the problems from Taggert until they, hopefully, have some sort of decent situation. If Norvell still can't get anything going, then the best hope is that FSU has righted the ship enough financially and roster wise to make a move to a different coach.

That being said, if that DOES happen, they should probably give him another couple of years.

So I'm saying 3 years at least, and 5 years if there seems to be a move in the right direction after 3
 
The safe play is five years. If we go getting a boner over some hot up and comer we may end up like Texas. Grabbed the future of the game whose hype hasn’t translated to the win column. I say that but honestly, the only hire right now I’d fire Norvell for would be Joe Brady. Maybe the timing for a guy like him can work out in a few years.
 
The safe play is five years. If we go getting a boner over some hot up and comer we may end up like Texas. Grabbed the future of the game whose hype hasn’t translated to the win column. I say that but honestly, the only hire right now I’d fire Norvell for would be Joe Brady. Maybe the timing for a guy like him can work out in a few years.
I believe Joe Brady would be a great hire for FSU but Atlanta and Houston are officially on the market for a new coach. The timing for Brady may come much sooner rather than later. Adam Gase(NY Jets) and Doug Marrone(Jags) are definitely history as head coaches after the season. I'm sure one of those teams will land Brady. I wouldn't mind seeing Brady as the Jags coach.
 
I believe Joe Brady would be a great hire for FSU but Atlanta and Houston are officially on the market for a new coach. The timing for Brady may come much sooner rather than later. Adam Gase(NY Jets) and Doug Marrone(Jags) are definitely history as head coaches after the season. I'm sure one of those teams will land Brady. I wouldn't mind seeing Brady as the Jags coach.

And if they have the #1 or #2 pick, then he would get a shiny new QB to play with.

But it won't happen. The Jags are sticking with Marrone. I know, I know. But Shad Kahn is a patient dude, and it's obvious they blew up the team to get a top pick and start over, and no way the coach and GM agree to that unless they have assurance they will be retained for at least another year, probably two.
 
Norvell isn’t any good. He’s supposed to be an offensive coach and they are terrible on offense and appear to be regressing. Especially in a year where offenses are dominating. If I’m an FSU fan I’m very concerned we can’t even do anything on offense.
 
Good grief did FSU get lucky this year with SEC and ACC not permitting OOC games. Well SEC at least.

Yes, but apparently we backed out and we’re scared of FSU according to Nole honks. Florida would have set series records this season, I’m talking like 70-7 bad.
 
Yes, but apparently we backed out and we’re scared of FSU according to Nole honks. Florida would have set series records this season, I’m talking like 70-7 bad.

Mullen would have done what Meyer always did, take pity in the second half.
 
That program is years from being back. Trump 2024 will be the theme.

FSU got SPANKED (Thanks Dave Hart ) AGAIN today. Just an AWFUL, AWFUL Football team. Sorry Noles but, your recruiting SUCKS so far in 2020 and your coaching is below average. You won’t win the ACC for 10 YEARS PLUS when Bobby Bowden the 20th is your coach.

I find it well HILARIOUS!!!! Cant fire NorveLLLLLL yet, can you?

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Never had 8-loss Willie in one season.
A Hole loss to Clemson next week is guaranteed.
Shooting for losses to UVA, Duke, or both.
 
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Never had 8-loss Willie in one season.
A Hole loss to Clemson next week is guaranteed.
Shooting for losses to UVA, Duke, or both.
They are worse this season than last season. Didn’t think that was possible.
 
If Norvell is at 2-9 after 11 games he might as well quit. No way he can reach Willie’s record at game 21. At that point Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Benjamin Crump are setting up camp in Tallahassee.
 
If Norvell is at 2-9 after 11 games he might as well quit. No way he can reach Willie’s record at game 21. At that point Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Benjamin Crump are setting up camp in Tallahassee.
What was Willie’s record at FSU? There is a legit chance that Norvell’s record could be worse.
 
What was Willie’s record at FSU? There is a legit chance that Norvell’s record could be worse.

Willie was 5-7 in the first year and was fired after the Miami game in 2019 when SOW dropped to 4-5.

That is a record of 9-12 after 21 games.

If NorveLLLLLL goes 2-9 this year, he would need to go 7-3 in the first 10 games next season to equal Willie. Assuming a normal non-rona CFB schedule in 2021, SOW will most likely have Notre Dame, Clemson, and Miami all in those first 10 games before the non-conference tune-up for senior day followed by the Holes’ trip to Gainesville.
SOW will be an underdog in those 3 games meaning NorveLLLLLL must win the other 7.
 
Willie was 5-7 in the first year and was fired after the Miami game in 2019 when SOW dropped to 4-5.

That is a record of 9-12 after 21 games.

If NorveLLLLLL goes 2-9 this year, he would need to go 7-3 in the first 10 games next season to equal Willie. Assuming a normal non-rona CFB schedule in 2021, SOW will most likely have Notre Dame, Clemson, and Miami all in those first 10 games before the non-conference tune-up for senior day followed by the Holes’ trip to Gainesville.
SOW will be an underdog in those 3 games meaning NorveLLLLLL must win the other 7.
Willie was very bad but FSU set a bad precedent by firing him after just 21 games. It puts a lot more pressure on Norvell and the FSU admin. FSU will certainly be 2-7 after next week.
 
Willie was very bad but FSU set a bad precedent by firing him after just 21 games. It puts a lot more pressure on Norvell and the FSU admin. FSU will certainly be 2-7 after next week.
They are headed for a 3-8 year which would be their worse since they went 3-8 in 1975. The worse after that was 0-11 in 1973. Maybe they’ll match that next year? That program is in shambles MONEY wise, RECRUITING wise, CURRENT dissension wise and it appears COACHING wise.
 
Willie was very bad but FSU set a bad precedent by firing him after just 21 games. It puts a lot more pressure on Norvell and the FSU admin. FSU will certainly be 2-7 after next week.

They wrote free tickets for Jackson, Sharpton, Crump, the NAACP, the ACLU, and every civil rights organization out there to sue their ass if NorveLLLLLL isn’t a clear upgrade over Willie after 21 games.
 
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They are headed for a 3-8 year which would be their worse since they went 3-8 in 1975. The worse after that was 0-11 in 1973. Maybe they’ll match that next year? That program is in shambles MONEY wise, RECRUITING wise, CURRENT dissension wise and it appears COACHING wise.

3-8 seems a best case scenario. With the way they are falling apart, they may not even play their last couple of games.
 
Miss State's offense has been shut out twice this year.
I keep forgetting you're just as big a Nole hater as @ih8f$u and @TJtheGator
I miss reading your posts at Warchant.

Dang! Nice stats! 8 TD passes all season

Passing

CMPATTYDSCMP%AVGLNGTDINTSACKSYLRTG
5911386452.27.6584511-75119.3
437636656.64.827239-7597.8
275321950.94.169214-2194.3
162612461.54.823034-3878.5
1452711,57353.55.86981228-209103.1
 
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I keep forgetting you're just as big a Nole hater as @ih8f$u and @TJtheGator
I miss reading your posts at Warchant.

Dang! Nice stats! 8 TD passes all season

Passing

CMPATTYDSCMP%AVGLNGTDINTSACKSYLRTG
5911386452.27.6584511-75119.3
437636656.64.827239-7597.8
275321950.94.169214-2194.3
162612461.54.823034-3878.5
1452711,57353.55.86981228-209103.1

Is this as bad as the Lumpy/McYellowHorseTeeth offenses?
 
I'd say Lumpy and Butters offense was much worse. Even in losses, FSU scores over 20.
Probably about the same. Can’t just look at points scored when everybody is scoring lots of points this year. Look at where the offenses ranked nationally. FSUs is towards the bottom of the country.
 
I'd say Lumpy and Butters offense was much worse. Even in losses, FSU scores over 20.
They’re also playing much worse teams. Even when the sec East was terrible, and it was, it was still better than whatever division they play in within the acc. It’s funny too how often they’re shut out on the second half. It’s like the other team is making adjustments and they’re not. That shows how really bad they are. Other teams have basically given them a free half then come back to shut them down when it counts. I hope they fire norcelllllll and can’t hire a coach at all and have to rehire Willie. I wish that had happened last time. It’s absolutely what they deserve.
 
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