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Impact of Mario at the U

Cristobal is a great recruiter. Problem is he can’t coach worth a lick IMO. Now competition in the ACC isn’t that tough so he’s have that going for him but it isn’t exactly tough in the PAC-12 either. He’d be a much bigger thorn in the side of an FSU then a UF since we don’t really play Miami much. Our main worries are UGA, Bama, etc. In fact maybe Cristobal can assist in keeping some of these Florida kids away from Bama, UGA, Clemson, Ohio St, etc.
 
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Cristobal is a great recruiter. Problem is he can’t coach worth a lick IMO. Now competition in the ACC isn’t that tough so he’s have that going for him but it isn’t exactly tough in the PAC-12 either. He’d be a much bigger thorn in the side of an FSU then a UF but again I’m just not sure how good of a coach he is.

I actually compare Napier to Mario until he proves he can “coach” against the big boys or turn over to an OC who can. I see the two as very similar
 
I actually compare Napier to Mario until he proves he can “coach” against the big boys or turn over to an OC who can. I see the two as very similar
Possibly yes. Although IMO at least I already think Mario can’t coach against the big boys. Napier it is a wait and see. Mario couldn’t even coach at the G5 level as he got fired from FIU and the only reason why he got the Oregon job is because Taggart left late and it was just an easy transition to make him the HC.
 
Sure enough Cristobal is getting skull drugged by Utah yet again. Utah has a good team but this is Cristobal’s 4th year at Oregon. These are his players and his recruits. If this result stands you may see Oregon fans saying “go ahead and take him” and Miami fans saying “we don’t want him after all”. LOL
 
Possibly yes. Although IMO at least I already think Mario can’t coach against the big boys. Napier it is a wait and see. Mario couldn’t even coach at the G5 level as he got fired from FIU and the only reason why he got the Oregon job is because Taggart left late and it was just an easy transition to make him the HC.

I am not ready to say we hired another Mario.

But as reports surface we chose not to even talk to BK or Lincoln, Stricklin better hope Billy isn’t Mario. And once Mario hits SoFla its going to make recruiting tough.

IMO we chose the Mario route over coaching and now we live with it. And if this fails we have no one to blame but ourselves
 
I am not ready to say we hired another Mario.

But as reports surface we chose not to even talk to BK or Lincoln, Stricklin better hope Billy isn’t Mario. And once Mario hits SoFla its going to make recruiting tough.

IMO we chose the Mario route over coaching and now we live with it. And if this fails we have no one to blame but ourselves
How do you know we chose the Mario route over coaching? I think that is TBD. Mario couldn’t hack it at a G5 school as he got fired at FIU. What did Mario ever do to deserve the Oregon job to begin with? I know why he got the Oregon job and it wasn’t because of his coaching. He’s just another Ron Zook/Will Muschamp IMO. Honestly I don’t want a coach that can’t even win at the G5 level. And again Cristobal is an Oline guy. I just don’t want an Oline guy as a head coach. Napier at least has won big where he’s at. Time will tell if it works out at a P5 school for him.
Riley is a very good coach and would be great at UF but as we have now seen Lincoln doesn’t want anything to do with the SEC. I think Kelly is a good coach but would he be a good fit here? I’m not sure he’s an SEC guy. Again while I do think he’s a good coach him at LSU could be very interesting.
 
How do you know we chose the Mario route over coaching? I think that is TBD. Mario couldn’t hack it at a G5 school as he got fired at FIU. What did Mario ever do to deserve the Oregon job to begin with? I know why he got the Oregon job and it wasn’t because of his coaching. He’s just another Ron Zook/Will Muschamp IMO. Honestly I don’t want a coach that can’t even win at the G5 level. And again Cristobal is an Oline guy. I just don’t want an Oline guy as a head coach. Napier at least has won big where he’s at. Time will tell if it works out at a P5 school for him.
Riley is a very good coach and would be great at UF but as we have now seen Lincoln doesn’t want anything to do with the SEC. I think Kelly is a good coach but would he be a good fit here? I’m not sure he’s an SEC guy. Again while I do think he’s a good coach him at LSU could be very interesting.

Paco, you are saying what I have said. All I am saying is Napier will be forced to prove he is what he is. Without a quality OC I think we look again in 3 years. Time will tell. But Mario will balance recruiting and BK will balance coaching so he better be ready. Road ahead is tough
 
He needs to take the job cause Utah is beating the sh!t out of Oregon and remember Utah is our first game next year.
 
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Paco, you are saying what I have said. All I am saying is Napier will be forced to prove he is what he is. Without a quality OC I think we look again in 3 years. Time will tell. But Mario will balance recruiting and BK will balance coaching so he better be ready. Road ahead is tough
Of course it will be tough. UF is in the SEC it isn’t easy sledding. But at least Napier has won at the G5 level. Mario couldn’t even do that. I was saying from Day 1 after Mullen got fired that I didn’t want to see Cristobal anywhere near UF. The guy just can’t coach and doesn’t know how to run a program.
 
Miami is in a real tough spot now. Fire a crappy coach just to hire another crappy coach (cause he has UM ties)

Wether its tough or not sounds like he is getting $8 million / yr to come.

let the recruiting war begin

Norvell better up his game
 
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That sucks. Will make it a little harder to get the top recruits from down there.

You two are peas in a pod lol.

Napier hasn't had his press conference yet and as far as I know, Mario hasn't officially taken the Miami job and you guys are already panicking about things.

Either of you care to bring up positive things about Napier?
 
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You two are peas in a pod lol.

Napier hasn't had his press conference yet and as far as I know, Mario hasn't officially taken the Miami job and you guys are already panicking about things.

Either of you care to bring up positive things about Napier?

What are you talking about I said I was fine with Napier and think I said he was my 2nd choice of the realiistic candidates to Kiffin. You get confused when pegging things on me it seems.
 
What are you talking about I said I was fine with Napier and think I said he was my 2nd choice of the realiistic candidates to Kiffin. You get confused when pegging things on me it seems.

Nope. Mario isn't even the head coach at Miami and here you are sitting with Michi boo hoping about how it's going to make it hard to recruit south Florida now.

Dudes not even the coach yet and my goodness here we go again.

It's your thing.
 
Nope. Mario isn't even the head coach at Miami and here you are sitting with Michi boo hoping about how it's going to make it hard to recruit south Florida now.

Dudes not even the coach yet and my goodness here we go again.

It's your thing.

Some of the media is reporting he is taking the job but no I can't say myself he is taking it.
 
Some of the media is reporting he is taking the job but no I can't say myself he is taking it.

As of an hour ago he hasn't taken it and Oregon is working on an extension.

But Michi hears it and panicked me and you just follow the gospel.

Can we maybe get through the presser and see some coach hires and recruiting play out over the next couple of weeks?
 
As of an hour ago he hasn't taken it and Oregon is working on an extension.

But Michi hears it and panicked me and you just follow the gospel.

Can we maybe get through the presser and see some coach hires and recruiting play out over the next couple of weeks?

I remember the same mantra about Mac. That went well.

And you admitted yourself you aren’t sold on this.
 
Mario can’t coach. Yes he can recruit. He would actually be a bigger thorn in the side of FSU then us since they are a common opponent and in the ACC. Personally I think Napier and Norvell are better coaches than Cristobal.
 
I remember the same mantra about Mac. That went well.

And you admitted yourself you aren’t sold on this.
Napier is a much better coach/program builder and recruiter than Mac. That doesn’t mean Napier is going to kick ass but on the surface he’s a better hire than Mac.
 
As of an hour ago he hasn't taken it and Oregon is working on an extension.

But Michi hears it and panicked me and you just follow the gospel.

Can we maybe get through the presser and see some coach hires and recruiting play out over the next couple of weeks?

I think all things can be discussed. Just saying I think it will make it a little harder to get the top recruits down there if he has came to a deal with them.
 
I think all things can be discussed. Just saying I think it will make it a little harder to get the top recruits down there if he has came to a deal with them.

That's fine. Probably will. Granted, he needs to win. Recruiting and not winning is going to make it tough.

Im just saying that maybe we could chill a bit for now.
 
I remember the same mantra about Mac. That went well.

And you admitted yourself you aren’t sold on this.

No. I'm not sold. But I'm interested to see what the next steps are.

Heard Saban speak very highly of him on Thursday or Friday. His record at UL is much better than anything Mac did at Colorado State.

Now if I start hearing that he's handing out gum, yelling about mid lines, dabbling in bbq sauce, obsessing over Luke Del Rio while shunning Will Grier, jumping sharks, or shrugging his humped-back shoulders over shoe throwing, then I will begin to be concerned.
 
No. I'm not sold. But I'm interested to see what the next steps are.

Heard Saban speak very highly of him on Thursday or Friday. His record at UL is much better than anything Mac did at Colorado State.

Now if I start hearing that he's handing out gum, yelling about mid lines, dabbling in bbq sauce, obsessing over Luke Del Rio while shunning Will Grier, jumping sharks, or shrugging his humped-back shoulders over shoe throwing, then I will begin to be concerned.

Well in one sense he is already a win as he refused to come if we wouldn’t provide him the off-field staff to structure a massive recruiting operation. So pass or fail, he already is improving UF.
 
Well in one sense he is already a win as he refused to come if we wouldn’t provide him the off-field staff to structure a massive recruiting operation. So pass or fail, he already is improving UF.

It would be nice to be top 6 every year in that.
 
Well in one sense he is already a win as he refused to come if we wouldn’t provide him the off-field staff to structure a massive recruiting operation. So pass or fail, he already is improving UF.

I think that also shows that the "modern boosters don't care about Florida football" thing is a myth.

Everything we've seen so far in this process is that the boosters are sick of the on-field products of the last decade and are ready to open the checkbooks.
 
I think that also shows that the "modern boosters don't care about Florida football" thing is a myth.

Everything we've seen so far in this process is that the boosters are sick of the on-field products of the last decade and are ready to open the checkbooks.

Yup.

These guys with all the money are obviously smart and finally must realize the structure behind the scenes has to change of they want on field results.

But it sounds like his off-field staff is going to be significantly larger than anything we have had in the past.
 
Yup.

These guys with all the money are obviously smart and finally must realize the structure behind the scenes has to change of they want on field results.

But it sounds like his off-field staff is going to be significantly larger than anything we have had in the past.

Yep. And our new facility opens this month, right? So he's coming into a great situation from the get go.
 
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Lots of changes behind the scenes coming in regards to support staff and stuff we as fans don’t see.
Strickland said in an interview the day of the FSU game that he wanted someone young who could build the program from the ground up and lay the ground work for the future. Napier had not even been announced as HBC at that point, not until the next day. I remember hearing the same stuff about Urban Meyer coming from Utah, "the spread won't work in the SEC, his schemes won't win big boy football, never coached a P5 team, etc etc". A lot of us were skeptical, I wanted SOS back, some wanted Stoops, and so on. That worked out fine, until Urban mentally burnt out and checked out. There are no guarantees that were just waiting to be ushered into Gainesville, and there's only one Saban.

I'm okay with the new coach, until he proves otherwise.
 
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I actually thought Manny was turning Miami around. Had fixed the culture in the locker room and had the players playing hard for him. I think it's a huge mistake for Miami. Mario doesn't impress me at all.
I’d be curious to hear why you say that. They were 8-3 last year and went 7-5 this year. Not only that they just lost to FSU a few weeks ago. I agree that Mario doesn’t impress but I do think he is a step up from Manny.
 
I actually thought Manny was turning Miami around. Had fixed the culture in the locker room and had the players playing hard for him. I think it's a huge mistake for Miami. Mario doesn't impress me at all.

I don’t think Mario is impressive, but at 7-5, Mario may be able to recruit enough talent to go 9-3 yearly in a really bad ACC
 
You two are peas in a pod lol.

Napier hasn't had his press conference yet and as far as I know, Mario hasn't officially taken the Miami job and you guys are already panicking about things.

Either of you care to bring up positive things about Napier?
Question:

How long until Insta claims he wanted Mullen gone so we could hire Napier, the guy he wanted as our HC for years? I say right after Spring football.
 
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