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I hope we get a clear winner

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Whoever wins, I hope is its decisive and not as close at it appears it could be. We could definitely get a pretty decisive electoral college winner even though the popular vote will likely be close.

The country could really use a clear verdict this time.
 
Whoever wins, I hope is its decisive and not as close at it appears it could be. We could definitely get a pretty decisive electoral college winner even though the popular vote will likely be close.

The country could really use a clear verdict this time.
Yes, hope so but don't bank on it, if one side appears to be losing they will draw it out as long as possible and then try and get Trump disqualified ...
 
The MSM has already been hinting that Kamala, as VP, might not certify the electoral college decision if Trump is the winner.
The same exact thing they pitched shite fits over when Trump was suggesting to Pence to not certify Biden. Funny how that works.
 
The MSM has already been hinting that Kamala, as VP, might not certify the electoral college decision if Trump is the winner.
The same exact thing they pitched shite fits over when Trump was suggesting to Pence to not certify Biden. Funny how that works.
No way will that happen, but it would be poetic justice. Everybody knows it's wrong, so they where right to pitch a fit. Trump is the only one who is corrupt enough to actually try it.
 
No way will that happen, but it would be poetic justice. Everybody knows it's wrong, so they where right to pitch a fit. Trump is the only one who is corrupt enough to actually try it.
Yeah...the other side would NEVER, EVER use the FBI, CIA and every other alphabet agency to LIE on FISA warrants, and knowingly let the Clinton campaign PAY for a FAKE dossier to overthrow an election they got clobbered in...AMIRITE?? You are such a dunce. I clobber EVERYTHING you post.
 
No way will that happen, but it would be poetic justice. Everybody knows it's wrong, so they were right to pitch a fit. Trump is the only one who is corrupt enough to actually try it.
Aaron Burr says hi. It’s amazing how ignorant people are of history. And no, I’m not equating Donald Trump to Erin Burr, I’m just pointing out the fallacy of your argument dating back to 1800.
 
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You do realize that your side is gonna be cheating like a mofo, right? I know you're not stupid, but are you really that naive?
The election will not be decisive and I highly doubt we have a winner tonight. It takes time for the Dems to figure out new and inventive ways of unethically influencing elections.

Especially since they’ve used so many before. Need a new one.
 
That's hilarious.
It’s hilarious that you don’t know the history of our country, I find it hilarious that somebody that doesn’t even know the history of his own country is allowed to vote
Lol
The essence of what’s wrong with his country Is somebody like you has a vote that counts the same as people that actually know the history of this country.
 
You do realize that your side is gonna be cheating like a mofo, right? I know you're not stupid, but are you really that naive?
Just stop with this, your starting to sound as bad as Ron. I am not a democrat and not voting today. I just choose to live in reality instead of the fantasy land you guys live in.

And please stop with the endless cheating baloney. Until you can back it up with something your just spitting hot air.
 
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Just stop with this, your starting to sound as bad as Ron. I am not a democrat and not voting today. I just choose to live in reality instead of the fantasy land you guys live in.

And please stop with the endless cheating baloney. Until you can back it up with something your just spitting hot air.
So you want definitive proof from the mainstream media who is complicit at helping to cover it up and cheat?
 
So you want definitive proof from the mainstream media who is complicit at helping to cover it up and cheat?
I think there is not a mainstream media anymore. I think they’re simply pandering networks that will push the point of view you prefer for ratings

I think we should stop using the phrase mainstream media

Lol
 
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Just stop with this, your starting to sound as bad as Ron. I am not a democrat and not voting today. I just choose to live in reality instead of the fantasy land you guys live in.

And please stop with the endless cheating baloney. Until you can back it up with something you’re just spitting hot air.

Just stop with this, your starting to sound as bad as Ron. I am not a democrat and not voting today. I just choose to live in reality instead of the fantasy land you guys live in.

And please stop with the endless cheating baloney. Until you can back it up with something your just spitting hot air.
So Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg admitting and Elon Musk confirming on his internal audit after he bought the company, that twitter and Facebook were paid by the Dems to withhold certain information from the public and to ban dissenting views isn’t enough to show they’re complicit in influencing the election towards them?
 
It’s hilarious that you don’t know the history of our country, I find it hilarious that somebody that doesn’t even know the history of his own country is allowed to vote
Lol
The essence of what’s wrong with his country Is somebody like you has a vote that counts the same as people that actually know the history of this country.
Wow, I guess I hit a nerve.

Your trying to tie in what happened 200 years ago with what Trump did was truly ridiculous. Maybe we should have just had Trump and Biden engage in a good old fashioned duel to the death?
 
So Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg admitting and Elon Musk confirming on his internal audit after he bought the company, that twitter was paid by the Dems to withhold certain information from the public and to ban dissenting views isn’t enough to show they’re complicit in influencing the election towards them?
Elon Musk......the same guy that just campaigned with Trump and is running banners on twitter supporting him (I don't use twitter, but my son tells me that is happening). Really, THATS your source?

Again.......show me in court. That's the only place you know the real facts about any of this stuff.

I did see that in court Trump was convicted of paying off a porn star to keep information from coming out right before the 2016 election........isn't THAT cheating?
 
Elon Musk......the same guy that just campaigned with Trump and is running banners on twitter supporting him (I don't use twitter, but my son tells me that is happening). Really, THATS your source?

Again.......show me in court. That's the only place you know the real facts about any of this stuff.

I did see that in court Trump was convicted of paying off a porn star to keep information from coming out right before the 2016 election........isn't THAT cheating?
You mean the same thing that Bill Clinton did with government funds for Paula Jones? Why isn't he in prison?

Your double standards are truly remarkable.

And all of these rulings that are favorable to the Democrats and their ability to cheat have been handed down by Obama appointed judges. What do you say about that?
 
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Elon Musk......the same guy that just campaigned with Trump and is running banners on twitter supporting him (I don't use twitter, but my son tells me that is happening). Really, THATS your source?

Again.......show me in court. That's the only place you know the real facts about any of this stuff.

I did see that in court Trump was convicted of paying off a porn star to keep information from coming out right before the 2016 election........isn't THAT cheating?
Now explain Dorsey and Zuckerberg. Noticed how you conveniently left that out.

The source is Dorsey and Zuckerberg themselves. They both publicly admitted this. So I’m expected to believe they lie to make themselves look bad?

And court. Zuckerberg testified in front of Congress. Under the penalty of perjury. The powers of denial are strong it you Jedi.

And paying off. You mean like paying off people to make a fake Russian dossier to impeach someone?

And since you think Trump paying off Stormy to withhold possibly damning info on Trumps chances to get elected, will you apply the same logic to the Hunter laptop that was buried? Doubtful. It doesn’t fit your narrative.
 
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Yes, hope so but don't bank on it, if one side appears to be losing they will draw it out as long as possible and then try and get Trump disqualified ...
The Trump disqualified angle is 100% in play.

They'll drag J6 back up if he somehow beats the steal.

They cannot let him back into the WH.
 
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You mean the same thing that Bill Clinton did with government funds for Paula Jones? Why isn't he in prison?

Your double standards are truly remarkable.

And all of these rulings that are favorable to the Democrats and their ability to cheat have been handed down by Obama appointed judges. What do you say about that?
LOL, dude, I hated Bill Clinton. Why do you keep throwing out these straw men???? Is that your only defense. Don't accuse me of a double standard when you have no idea what I think about something to begin with. Yes, Bill Clinton was dirty......whiteware, Mark Richt, Paula Jones, etc.........no argument from me on that. But he was, what, 20 years ago? Trump is now and every bit as dirty or more. Actually a lot more based on the number of actions that have been uncovered.
 
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LOL, dude, I hated Bill Clinton. Why do you keep throwing out these straw men???? Is that your only defense. Don't accuse me of a double standard when you have no idea what I think about something to begin with. Yes, Bill Clinton was dirty......whiteware, Mark Richt, Paula Jones, etc.........no argument from me on that. But he was, what, 20 years ago? Trump is now and every bit as dirty or more. Actually a lot more based on the number of actions that have been uncovered.
So because it was 20 years ago, the same actions that are criminal today were not criminal then? You make no sense. What actions have been uncovered that were not part of the ridiculous witchhunt?
 
Now explain Dorsey and Zuckerberg. Noticed how you conveniently left that out.

The source is Dorsey and Zuckerberg themselves. They both publicly admitted this. So I’m expected to believe they lie to make themselves look bad?

And court. Zuckerberg testified in front of Congress. Under the penalty of perjury. The powers of denial are strong it you Jedi.

And paying off. You mean like paying off people to make a fake Russian dossier to impeach someone?

And since you think Trump paying off Stormy to withhold possibly damning info on Trumps chances to get elected, will you apply the same logic to the Hunter laptop that was buried? Doubtful. It doesn’t fit your narrative.
Don't throw out a blanket statement and ask me to explain it. Quote me exactly what those guys said in court if you want to discuss it.

And your totally wrong about the laptop. IF that was found to be the case in court I would give it the same weight..........its my opinion that both sides push the envelope of cheating as much as possible......not that the democrats don't. The false narrative on this board is that the big bad democrats cheat all the time and the Republicans don't. I don't see any evidence to support that......I see lots of evidence that both sides push the envelope wherever they can.

But none of that gets to the actual cheating with regard to casting votes, which seems to be the pubs biggest accusation. For that I haven't seen any hard evidence.
 
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Don't throw out a blanket statement and ask me to explain it. Quote me exactly what those guys said in court if you want to discuss it.

And your totally wrong about the laptop. IF that was found to be the case in court I would give it the same weight..........its my opinion that both sides push the envelope of cheating as much as possible......not that the democrats don't. The false narrative on this board is that the big bad democrats cheat all the time and the Republicans don't. I don't see any evidence to support that......I see lots of evidence that both sides push the envelope wherever they can.

But none of that gets to the actual cheating with regard to casting votes, which seems to be the pubs biggest accusation. For that I haven't seen any hard evidence.
You mean the laptop that was buried by the three letter organizations in order for Biden to win the last election. DOJ was not prosecuting and didn't care about the truth, which eventually came out? These are the courts you're talking about.

I'm sorry, but your credibility is pretty shot about now in my opinion. Because that's exactly exactly what a double standard is. Kinda like when everybody objected to Obamacare as being a shit plan. He Said I'm just not doing a good enough job explaining it. ...
 
You mean the laptop that was buried by the three letter organizations in order for Biden to win the last election. DOJ was not prosecuting and didn't care about the truth, which eventually came out? These are the courts you're talking about.

I'm sorry, but your credibility is pretty shot about now in my opinion. Because that's exactly exactly what a double standard is. Kinda like when everybody objected to Obamacare as being a shit plan. He Said I'm just not doing a good enough job explaining it. ...
May I add that the FBI had that computer in their possession since Dec of 2019 when all those 51 intel "experts" signed their form in 11/2020? So it is ZERO chance those POS's signed that letter KNOWING they were interfering in the election. THAT ALONE proves the election was stolen
 
Don't throw out a blanket statement and ask me to explain it. Quote me exactly what those guys said in court if you want to discuss it.

And your totally wrong about the laptop. IF that was found to be the case in court I would give it the same weight..........its my opinion that both sides push the envelope of cheating as much as possible......not that the democrats don't. The false narrative on this board is that the big bad democrats cheat all the time and the Republicans don't. I don't see any evidence to support that......I see lots of evidence that both sides push the envelope wherever they can.

But none of that gets to the actual cheating with regard to casting votes, which seems to be the pubs biggest accusation. For that I haven't seen any hard evidence.
I’m not going to do your research for you. It’s openly available information. Zuckerberg admitted it in front of Congress. Google is your friend. It’s not my problem if you’re a low information voter on this topic. It’s your responsibility to change that. The testimony was rather large news when it happened

Let me know when you’re ready to utilize the same standards to both sides and we will continue the debate. Until then the double standards on your part, as also pointed out by @FresnoGator, make it impossible to have a debate of any redeeming value.
 
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