How well do you know the Constitution or any historical documents related to a Presidential election?

[kjfreeze]

Pretty much every liberal/democrat person and many snowflake republicans are saying that the election is over and that Trump cannot reverse it simply because that wouldn't be in line with the Constitution. But I would go so far as to say that if fraud was proven and the election was falsified and a cheater is in office, then that pretty much wipes out any thoughts on following the Constitution unless you want to say the fraud proved to be exempt from this scenario. As far as I know, I don't see anywhere in any recorded documents that say that a President can and should remain in office even if they'd done so fraudulently. So, if this audit proves to be fraudulent and nullifies the election, then what do we do? It is a scenario that goes beyond anything noted in the past. Tell me what can and should be done?

 

[BCSpell]

Pretty much every liberal/democrat person and many snowflake republicans are saying that the election is over and that Trump cannot reverse it simply because that wouldn't be in line with the Constitution. But I would go so far as to say that if fraud was proven and the election was falsified and a cheater is in office, then that pretty much wipes out any thoughts on following the Constitution unless you want to say the fraud proved to be exempt from this scenario. As far as I know, I don't see anywhere in any recorded documents that say that a President can and should remain in office even if they'd done so fraudulently. So, if this audit proves to be fraudulent and nullifies the election, then what do we do? It is a scenario that goes beyond anything noted in the past. Tell me what can and should be done?

This question was tossed around in 2016 also. Basically, the Constitution isn't much help.

What Happens If The Election Was A Fraud? The Constitution Doesn’t Say.

What would happen if it became clear that Trump or his advisers colluded with the Russians?

fivethirtyeight.com

Four Times the Results of a Presidential Election Were Contested

"Rigged" may not be the way to describe them, but there were definitely some shenanigans happening

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[fatman76]

This question was tossed around in 2016 also. Basically, the Constitution isn't much help.

What Happens If The Election Was A Fraud? The Constitution Doesn’t Say.

What would happen if it became clear that Trump or his advisers colluded with the Russians?

fivethirtyeight.com

Four Times the Results of a Presidential Election Were Contested

"Rigged" may not be the way to describe them, but there were definitely some shenanigans happening

www.smithsonianmag.com

Great post.

From what I know the best case scenario, if fraud did occur, would be recalls of and litigation against elected officials who knowingly certified questionable elections. I'd also guess there would be a groundswell from a majority of the electorate to tighten up election protocols.

I'm not sure there's a methodology for going back once a President has been inaugurated. Which is probably why Q "went away" after Biden was sworn in...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

What will be interesting to see is if Trump can get back his first term. If it's proven than a coup attempt was orchestrated for his entire term, I would think he would get 4 years back.

So he could still have 8 years left to serve. Likely wouldn't want to due to his age, but it's possible.

And for the sheep that say this is all cray cray and we are morons, then get out of our way and let us prove we are morons by investigating the election completely.

In poker, that's called 'calling your bluff'.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

This is why I am NOT a textualist but an originalist who focuses on intent. Really we are trying to be too smart by half on this.

Its 1792 and Aaron Burr is caught stealing the election from George Washington. What do the men of that day do? (Intent) Well they put Washington back in office and they hang Burr. A lot of crime back then would get you the death penalty. I mean this is obvious how they would have handled it.

 

[fatman76]

This is why I am NOT a textualist but an originalist who focuses on intent. Really we are trying to be too smart by half on this.

Its 1792 and Aaron Burr is caught stealing the election from George Washington. What do the men of that day do? (Intent) Well they put Washington back in office and they hang Burr. A lot of crime back then would get you the death penalty. I mean this is obvious how they would have handled it.

But did Biden himself cheat (if cheating occurred)?

I mean, I understand the sentiment that he probably knew what was going on, but it's not like he was sitting in a control room calling the shots. That's the problem with this type of potential fraud - it's splintered and widespread.

 

[BCSpell]

But did Biden himself cheat (if cheating occurred)?

I mean, I understand the sentiment that he probably knew what was going on, but it's not like he was sitting in a control room calling the shots. That's the problem with this type of potential fraud - it's splintered and widespread.

Biden might not actually know what went on. He might actually beleive that 81 million voted for him and he won.

 

[fatman76]

Biden might not actually know what went on. He might actually beleive that 81 million voted for him and he won.

I mean, when you’re constantly trying to not shit your pants I bet a lot gets past you.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

It was an example. Burr was a self absorbed self promoter who many founders disliked. Others gave him a pass for his military service and other acts of service for the country. He made for an easy hypothetical.

A big part of me believes Biden is clueless. Also, it would not surprise me if he knew because he has been a lying, corrupt. self serving operator for 47 years.

 

[instaGATOR]

Pretty much every liberal/democrat person and many snowflake republicans are saying that the election is over and that Trump cannot reverse it simply because that wouldn't be in line with the Constitution. But I would go so far as to say that if fraud was proven and the election was falsified and a cheater is in office, then that pretty much wipes out any thoughts on following the Constitution unless you want to say the fraud proved to be exempt from this scenario. As far as I know, I don't see anywhere in any recorded documents that say that a President can and should remain in office even if they'd done so fraudulently. So, if this audit proves to be fraudulent and nullifies the election, then what do we do? It is a scenario that goes beyond anything noted in the past. Tell me what can and should be done?

Here's the main thing to keep in mind.

The King of England turned over his SOVEREIGNTY to 'THE PEOPLE', not to any government.

The Constitution was NOT carved in stone and handed down by God on the mount.

The newly SOVEREIGN people that won the American Revolution wrote the Constitution to establish the limited powers and to CONTROL the federal government.

The SOVEREIGN PEOPLE of the united States can do anything that they decide to do, and their elected and HIRED public SERVANTS will follow the orders from the SOVEREIGN people, or we can throw their sorry traitorous butts out of the offices that we created.

The Rat Tyrants are attempting to return us (the sovereign people) to serfs at best, and slaves if they can pull it off, while they try to return to the unquestioned Royalty status that they believe they are and deserve.

Since votes are no longer the honest renderings of the 'Will of the People,' then it's time for a new and improved AMERICAN REVOLUTION to drain the traitors out of the DC swamp. So get on with it already.... Non-violent if possible, but whatever becomes necessary to get the job done.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

 

[BamaFan1137]

I mean, when you’re constantly trying to not shit your pants I bet a lot gets past you.

That has been my experience.

 

[BSC911]

Pretty much every liberal/democrat person and many snowflake republicans are saying that the election is over and that Trump cannot reverse it simply because that wouldn't be in line with the Constitution. But I would go so far as to say that if fraud was proven and the election was falsified and a cheater is in office, then that pretty much wipes out any thoughts on following the Constitution unless you want to say the fraud proved to be exempt from this scenario. As far as I know, I don't see anywhere in any recorded documents that say that a President can and should remain in office even if they'd done so fraudulently. So, if this audit proves to be fraudulent and nullifies the election, then what do we do? It is a scenario that goes beyond anything noted in the past. Tell me what can and should be done?

LOL. Never change.

 

[BSC911]

Christian "prophet" claims God didn't restore Trump yet to make people doubt prophecies — Newsweek

June 11, 2021

apple.news

 

[Ncgatr1]

Someone needs to tell the AG Merrick Garland that the DOJ does not have jurisdiction to scrutinize state ordered election ballot audits. I find it ironic that when Trump requested the DOJ to step in and look at state election fraud, and they said they couldn’t because it was state jurisdiction, but now all of a sudden Garland thinks the DOJ has jurisdiction because the Arizona audit is starting to leak out huge discrepancies in their audit.

 

[instaGATOR]

Trump asks the DoJ to at least look into the obvious multi-state election fraud.
They respond (as usual) by doing NADA.

Beijing Biden orders the DoJ to stop any and all election audits.
They respond by attempting to do exactly that, in violation of the Constitution.

The obvious difference between a President, and a totally corrupt, traitorous, fraud Rat.....

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

The U. S. has 331 million people with an average IQ of 98. Beijing Biden did not actively campaign. In Democrat debates, Biden promised economic stagnation and higher crime rates. Biden lost on Election Day. Some states decided to count votes post election. Biden miraculously "won" in an unprecedented fashion without a down ticket blue wave.

My classical mechanics formula tells me probability of Biden receiving an all time record 81 million LEGAL votes is 0.00000000093.

 

[BSC911]

The U. S. has 331 million people with an average IQ of 98. Beijing Biden did not actively campaign. In Democrat debates, Biden promised economic stagnation and higher crime rates. Biden lost on Election Day. Some states decided to count votes post election. Biden miraculously "won" in an unprecedented fashion without a down ticket blue wave.

My classical mechanics formula tells me probability of Biden receiving an all time record 81 million LEGAL votes is 0.00000000093.

LOL. You don’t even understand basic math. I had to explain the GDP numbers to you.

 

[instaGATOR]

Being a traitorous Rat, BS-C911 understands and agrees with the election fraud results, and nobody needs to be a rocket scientist to know that's a fact....

 

[BSC911]

Being a traitorous Rat, BS-C911 understands and agrees with the election fraud results, and nobody needs to be a rocket scientist to know that's a fact....

Prove it.

LOL.

 

[instaGATOR]

Prove it.

LOL.

No need. You prove it yourself almost daily here with your BS-C911 drivel....