How do you feel about Playing Michigan in the Citrus Bowl?

[BoomRShine]

They won by 6 pts (35-41) in Soph Tebow's first year as the starter, with Sr QB Chad Henne having the best game of his entire Mich career.

But it wasn't really shouldn't have been that close. Michigan had four turnovers, Florida zero. So, despite having a -4 turnover margin, Michigan still won the game, with a yardage margin of 524 to 399. How often does that happen?

Michael Hart fumbled after carrying the ball at first and goal from the 4. Probably 7 points squandered.

Chad Henne threw an interception. Florida had a short field, starting at the Michigan 20, to drive to a touchdown.

Michael Hart fumbled after carrying the ball at first and goal from the 6. Probably 7 points squandered. Almost identical to his earlier fumble.

Chad Henne threw an interception. Florida had a short field, starting at the Michigan 34, to drive to a touchdown. Almost identical to his earlier interception.

So, there were some big point swings in the game, all in favor of Florida.

Mich has been fortunate in which years they have played UF, and they are again this year imo. With only 1 QB available on the roster, I have no faith that the Gator's can get it done in the bowl game, unless ST's and the defense can score enough to win....

In what ways? Before the 2008 Citrus Bowl, Florida was 9-2 and was ranked #9 in the AP poll, #12 in the Coaches poll, and #12 in the BCS poll. Michigan was 7-4 and was unranked in all polls.

Florida, like this year, was also effectively playing a home game.

 

[DLinOrlando]

Don't expect us to win this one. Our defense will not be out there with the same fight, if our top guys even play at all to begin with because of the draft and being banged up. Treoff will do exactly the same things as always against a good defense. Useless game

I wouldn't say that at all. It's their last game and will be out there having fun. We are the ones stressing. There is also time to heal. I say we go out with a huge win.

 

[46885]

I agree with you on the offense overall, but there are still little things that should be improving independent of the QB that aren't. Our run blocking for example, that's just moving the guy in front off you off the ball. We couldn't even do that against FAU. And I don't think it's all players either even though some of them are bad, we're a very predictable running team which causes a lot of the issues. Do we run out of anything but the pistol? We literally have 4 running plays. Inside zone, outside zone, counter, and toss. We don't do anything to help a young, struggling line and that's poor coaching. Where are the key sweeps, options, etc? Switch something up. People tee off on our line and we do nothing to help them, we just line up down after down expecting them to move the man in front of them when they're clearly not capable.

I've seen enough in our passing game to know that when we have a QB capable of making the throws we'll be fine so I'm not gonna judge them too harshly there. But everywhere else on offense is attrociois and there's been zero improvement. Here's another scary fact. Compare the offense with Grier, when it was at it's best, to last years offense. Look at yards per game, yards per carry, points per game, 3rd down percentage, etc. Just as bad as last years, and in some cases worse. And it's not as if we played any dominating defenses during that stretch. Which is why I've been saying all year it's a myth that we were a good offense even under Grier. It was prettier and more creative, but still as ineffective as Muschamp's offense. That's scary to think about.

playing with a QB that can't check off and get the offense in the right looks in time before the play clock runs out is a huge issue with our problems in the run game. Not only is the defense jumping every snap count and reading when we are in running formations, our QB is incapable of getting out of an original play and checking to a quick pass etc... It's pretty standard inexperienced/awful "athletic" Qb problems in college. He's looking to the sideline for checks instead of doing anything on his own, it's easy to see.... and there lies the biggest problem with having no experienced OL to do it for him or save his ass with coverage and mike checks, we need a Center with a ton of experience and that's smart to do anything for a guy like Treon. Treon is done, he won't be playing QB after this last game so none of this matters besides getting the next young guy groomed for the start of next year. The young QB or QB's possibly we are about to possess will accidentally make more plays than Treon from talent alone while not even knowing a coverage with their physical tools making throws that overcome defensive alignments. I've seen some bad QB play but the last few years are just unbelievable to me, we managed to win 9 games at USM this year with nothing any better, obviously the talent level is different but good lord Treon and DRiskel are just awful in the mind.

 

[GatorNation79]

I think that we lose the game...I think that we play well but it's not going to be an all or nothing direction for the team...we have the right coach and YES it's going to take time. We are going to do well in recruiting regardless of the bowl game. We won't get all of our targets but we are going to get our share. Kids can see where things are headed and some of those kids that want to play now will get on board. I expect for us to show up...but with our limited QB play it leaves our offense short..yeah the O Line isn't that great but our biggest problem is at QB.

 

[EvilWayz]

We couldn't beat a Michigan team that lost to Appalachian State with TIM TEBOW. I have very little faith in Scaredy McRunnerson and his Turnstyles.

 

[oozie7]

playing with a QB that can't check off and get the offense in the right looks in time before the play clock runs out is a huge issue with our problems in the run game. Not only is the defense jumping every snap count and reading when we are in running formations, our QB is incapable of getting out of an original play and checking to a quick pass etc... It's pretty standard inexperienced/awful "athletic" Qb problems in college. He's looking to the sideline for checks instead of doing anything on his own, it's easy to see.... and there lies the biggest problem with having no experienced OL to do it for him or save his ass with coverage and mike checks, we need a Center with a ton of experience and that's smart to do anything for a guy like Treon. Treon is done, he won't be playing QB after this last game so none of this matters besides getting the next young guy groomed for the start of next year. The young QB or QB's possibly we are about to possess will accidentally make more plays than Treon from talent alone while not even knowing a coverage with their physical tools making throws that overcome defensive alignments. I've seen some bad QB play but the last few years are just unbelievable to me, we managed to win 9 games at USM this year with nothing any better, obviously the talent level is different but good lord Treon and DRiskel are just awful in the mind.

We couldn't run with Grier doing those things either. These are our ypc averages in the games Grier started:

ECU: 3.7 (excluding Treon's runs)
UK: 3.2 (and Grier was the leading rusher by 20+yards)
UT: 3.9
Ole Miss: 2.5
Mizzou: 2.9

That's pathetic. We'd be in the bottom 10th in rushing if those numbers were extrapolated over 12 games. It ain't the QB, they really are just that bad and haven't gotten a lick better. We had a 0.7 average against Bama. Even bad FCS teams average more, I don't think you guys understand how completely inept that is. The QB is ha and so is every other part of the offense. It's a complete system thing. That shouldn't be happening.

 

[46885]

We couldn't run with Grier doing those things either. These are our ypc averages in the games Grier started:

ECU: 3.7 (excluding Treon's runs)
UK: 3.2 (and Grier was the leading rusher by 20+yards)
UT: 3.9
Ole Miss: 2.5
Mizzou: 2.9

That's pathetic. We'd be in the bottom 10th in rushing if those numbers were extrapolated over 12 games. It ain't the QB, they really are just that bad and haven't gotten a lick better. We had a 0.7 average against Bama. Even bad FCS teams average more, I don't think you guys understand how completely inept that is. The QB is ha and so is every other part of the offense. It's a complete system thing. That shouldn't be happening.

Despite this topic there is something wild happening right now I need to get in contact with you about. Danny knows... I don't even know what to think right now man.

 

[LizardGrad89]

In what ways? Before the 2008 Citrus Bowl, Florida was 9-2 and was ranked #9 in the AP poll, #12 in the Coaches poll, and #12 in the BCS poll. Michigan was 7-4 and was unranked in all polls.

Florida, like this year, was also effectively playing a home game.

Well, we were 9-3, but I get your point.

Have to remember that we rode Tebow's ridiculous season to that record. The defense was extremely mediocre that year. Say what you want about the productive offenses UF used to have, but we've never had a truly great season that wasn't led by the defense.

 

[NavigatorII]

With only ONE sub-standard QB on the entire Gator roster, I'm not much interested in any bowl or bowl opponent.
I'll pick back up in the Spring....

I have to agree. I wish the tent was folded and punting until spring to avoid more embarrassment. Michigan sucks but we are so terrible on O I really would not play another game this season.

 

[46885]

Well, we were 9-3, but I get your point.

Have to remember that we rode Tebow's ridiculous season to that record. The defense was extremely mediocre that year. Say what you want about the productive offenses UF used to have, but we've never had a truly great season that wasn't led by the defense.

That was our worst statistical defense in UF history im pretty sure

 

[NavigatorII]

That was our worst statistical defense in UF history im pretty sure

That defense was horrific. I can only think of one worse and that was Zook's final year I think. We had a linebacker that couldn't play 4th team on this year's defense that final year of Zookdom, killed us against UGA. But he was good enough to help rename Ron Zook field in Tallyho.

 

[46885]

no the 07 one was officially the worst... that bowl game was an arena game


even then when Les won it all with Sabans players it took 17 4th down miracles to win and Florida choking many times. He's been a joke for a decade and still has a job and people cried when they thought he was finally gonna get fired lol

 

[oozie7]

Despite this topic there is something wild happening right now I need to get in contact with you about. Danny knows... I don't even know what to think right now man.

Huh? Email me. Or text me. You still have my number right?

 

[sadgator]

We ran for 0.7 yards per carry Saturday...and that isn't a misprint. O point freaking 7.

"0.0"

 

[oozie7]

"0.0"

LOL

 

[JagKnight5]

Random alcoholic question but figure you guys might know. Does the SEC policy on no alcohol at football games apply to the Citrus Bowl?

 

[GatorGray]

I think that they allow beer sales at the bowl games, but I am not positive on that.

 

[instaGATOR]

In what ways? Before the 2008 Citrus Bowl, Florida was 9-2 and was ranked #9 in the AP poll, #12 in the Coaches poll, and #12 in the BCS poll. Michigan was 7-4 and was unranked in all polls.

Florida, like this year, was also effectively playing a home game.

IF you really believe that the Citurs Bowl in Orlando is the same as playing UF in the SWAMP, then you're delusional as hell...
Orlando is a strong-hold for the scUM thugs of Mi-Am-I, and then it's the hometown of UCF. It is NOT and never has been UF's 2nd home.

Sorry, but your facts are NOT...

Entering the 2007 Citrus Bowl:
UF was 9-3, Mich was 8-4.
Both finished the 2007 season (post-bowl) at 9-4.

The Gator's 2007 team had lost these 2006 players to the NFL:
DE Jarvis Moss 1/17
FS Reggie Nelson 1/21
DE Ray McDonald
DT Marcus Thomas
DE Joe Cohen
CB Ryan Smith
WR Dallas Baker
RB DeShawn Wynn
MLB Brandon Siler
And 4-5 more that were taken as FA's.

 

[PacoGator19]

Outside of UCF. Orlando has the most UF grads in the city of Orlando than any other school.

 

[instaGATOR]

Outside of UCF. Orlando has the most UF grads in the city of Orlando than any other school.

So? And what percentage of the general population are they? Less than 1% I'm guessing....

It doesn't change what I said about Orlando NOT being UF's 2nd home.
Balonkee-head Mikie works for the Slantinal too, so what?

 

[sadgator]

Random alcoholic question but figure you guys might know. Does the SEC policy on no alcohol at football games apply to the Citrus Bowl?

They sell beer at the Citrus Bowl. sadgator got pretty lit at the UF/Mich game in '07 and was hung over walking out after the loss. It sucked. Not a great place for kids, by the way, not sure if the renovations have helped.

 

[PacoGator19]

So? And what percentage of the general population are they? Less than 1% I'm guessing....

It doesn't change what I said about Orlando NOT being UF's 2nd home.
Balonkee-head Mikie works for the Slantinal too, so what?

Just by using a sample size of people I work with I would say it is a lot more than 1%.

 

[GatorGray]

Game is officially a sellout. Second fastest sellout in history.

 

[instaGATOR]

As of the 2010 census, Orlando/Orange County had 1,145, 956 in residence.
So 1% would be 11,146+ UF Grads living there today.
Sorry, but I doubt it still, unless you can provide something more substantial that your own workplace...

And even IF it is 1%, are you claiming that makes it a Gator town equivalent to a 'HOME" game for UF?

 

[GatorGray]

First sellout since the 2008 game when the two teams were......UF and Meat Chicken.

 

[instaGATOR]

Meechigan will likely have more fans there than UF has.
For them, it's a warm vacation to the land of the mouse.
And they didn't get a bowl last season after going 5-7.

For UF, not so much, and I suspect that a lot of UF fans just want this season over with...

 

[MJWilliamson]

Game is officially a sellout. Second fastest sellout in history.

Yep

It's official. @BWWCitrusBowl is a sellout. Second-fastest sellout in this bowl game's history.

— Matt Murschel (@osmattmurschel) December 8, 2015

 

[PacoGator19]

There will be a lot more UF fans at this Game than Michigan fans. It won't even be close.

 

[instaGATOR]

UF 20 - 14 FAU in OT
UF 2 - 27 FSU in the SWAMP
UF 14 - 29 Bama for SEC-C

Is the Bowl an unannounced Masochist Party?

Will Treon be the starting QB, and the only QB on the roster?

PS

Is Mich better than FAU?

 

[EvilWayz]

There will be a lot more UF fans at this Game than Michigan fans. It won't even be close.

We get a ring for that?

 

[instaGATOR]

And what I was responding to was the Mich fans claim that the Orlando Citrus Bowl is like a HOME game for the Gators.

Do you agree with or support that claim Paco?

~ How many Gator alum live in and around Orlando is not relevant to the claim.

 

[phxpanther]

First of all, anyone claiming it was like a Gator home game is clueless, and has clearly never been to the Swamp.

And let's not forget Tebow had a cast on his hand leading up to the game, and it showed. He only averaged 4.7 up a, which was only half his career average

 

[instaGATOR]

Tebow, even with a hand cast, is still light years ahead of the current QB....
(and that's not mean or personal, it's just true imo)

Treon Harris is just not Chris Leak, never has been and he never will be, also jmoho....
(and I still wish him well in his future, whatever that turns out to be)

 

[jaxgatorrises069]

I was there in 08 and it was like a home game for UF. It won't be close those time though. Treon is the worst qb I've ever seen play!

 

[46885]

time to die

 

[DLinOrlando]

I'm contemplating going to the game, but the prices are keeping me from clicking "ok". Not sure it's worth it and I live here in Orlando.