Originally posted by neoteric lefty:
Go ahead lefty, you love graphs, I am lazy, so show me where this isn't true. I was unaware of this, but if that happened it is very relevant.
Actually, all I said was show me some data, I fully admitted I wasn't interested in doing it. I know that you already did it, hoping to find that the data was false, and then didn't post it because it didn't support your argument. Your cop out is all I needed to know rushie was correct.
Not what I am saying at all. As usual this is you taking what I am saying and making it say something else, pretty typical of you really, I don't even get mad any longer.
What I am saying is I know you. I know you love to post graphs and charts, even if they don't necessarily say what you want them to or come from extremely biased sources. I know rushy having said that set you off to moveon.org and the DNC website scurrying about for charts that said this wasn't true, I know your posting style so I am fairly comfortable in making this claim. I know you couldn't find anything that would support your pro gun control stance and thus you didn't post anything at all.
This wasn't my theory. I merely pointed out that I'd be interested to know how much meat was on the bone re his comments. But, you're engaging in your personal jihad against me, and have made a theory that I didn't advocate and have admitted i don't know if its true or not, into a pet theory of mine that I am advancing. Stop arguing like a woman. Deal with what I actually said or don't address me at all.
Notice this statement, I said I was unaware and "if"....somehow you turned that into me saying this was exactly true. You're not very subtle and you don't pay attention to what is actually said, but what you want/hope was said becomes the subject of snarky little half cocked tirades. I even asked you to show me where this wasn't true. I know you went to all the websites that tell you your opinion. And as I said in my previous post I know you didn't find anything or it would have been posted in this thread.
"Evidence? I don't need no stinking evidence."
"... I am lazy, so show me where this isn't true. I was unaware of this, but if that happened it is very relevant."
Requiring evidence to disprove a thesis, but needing none to assert it as true.
but if isn't exactly a statement of acceptance as fact now is it?
"Your cop out is all I needed to know rushie was correct."
Again, going by the tea leaves you assign for gathering knowledge...
Just an opinion, I still believe that. Had there been some convenient graph, anywhere at all, you'd have posted it. There isn't a person reading this that doesn't believe that about you.
"I know you love to post graphs and charts, even if they don't necessarily say what you want them to or come from extremely biased sources."
Well, the graphs I posted above come from the Chicago police department's annual crime reports (links were posted). I guess that is another 'biased source' you think I post from.
I wasn't talking about this thread specifically, but since you're bringing it up, I doubt all government sources as a matter of course.
"I know you couldn't find anything that would support your pro gun control stance and thus you didn't post anything at all."
I find it funny that you think I didn't post a link or a story, so therefore my position is inherently weak, yet Rushie post an anecdotal premise about housing projects, and you have jumped on board before the ink is dry. What's the term I'm looking for? Oh yeah, confirmation bias...
I addressed this already, but since you're obviously slow, I will tackle it again, the words but and if aren't embracing something as fact, work on your comprehension skills.
I actually agree about his premise, but no so much about the magnitude of effect, because I actually live in the city of Chicago, near some of the areas in question. I play coed softball at the field next to where the (in)famous Cabrini-Green housing buildings used to exist on the Near North side of the city, before being demolished. The bar where I watch Gator games is 3 blocks away from there.
Stop arguing like a woman. Deal with what I actually said or don't address me at all. "
This is hilarious because your actual words are enough to make you look foolish....
Obviously not, since i've eviscerated your feeble accusations, perhaps you want to try again?[/B]
