Herschel Walker offers to send people who want to defund police to countries without them
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/herschel-walker-defund-the-police-offer
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/herschel-walker-defund-the-police-offer
God bless Herschel
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I hate Georgia with the utmost passion, but how the hell can anyone not like and respect Herschel Walker? He's still a badass in his late 50's.
That D.A. is a D.A. iykwim. He's also under investigation for some serious cash being in his possession from a non profit charity.
I never watched a game with Walker vs Florida at the old Gator Bowl(thank God), but all of us in that stadium in 1984 and 1985 were excited to watch Herschel and the New Jersey Generals vs the Jax Bulls. The game in 84 drew a crowd of over 70,000 that year and Herschel was one of the main reasons we had a great crowd that day. Although my Bulls lost that game.
I believe Crook Brown was released early because of the Chinese virus.
I met Herschel years ago one night in Irving @ I hop after a late night. Late night. Pre iPhones. He was the nicest man you could ever meet. Kind. I told him I was a Sooner. We talked for 10 minutes or so about college football. Dawgs/ Sooners. He was just so friendly. I will never forget that. He’s a good man
Desertions not resignations. Because their ignorant asses know with an 8th grade intellect they’ll never get a better paying job with a pension.
Fire them and hire replacements. Ridiculous: wah our feelings are hurt because we can’t rough up the blacks with no accountability so now I’ll cash my paycheck but not do my job.
not sure if serious?
2 black lawyers on Hannity said the Atlanta DA overcharged.
Please. There will be a line of high school educated rednecks a mile long to sign up for steady pay, limitless overtime, a pension and the chance to rough up minorities at will.
Maybe they could ask some of these guys. I wonder if they’re psyched about the stock market? #trumpcountry.
If those guys start quitting instead of just taking pay and not doing their job, we might start working on a solution.
I agree on split second decisions, but what I’ve seen on video are not split second decisions. On the Atlanta thing, I agree if you’re fighting with cops and grab a cop’s taser, you’re putting yourself in a very high risk situation. Taser might not be lethal but if you’re incapacitated by a taser, you’re defenseless. But I don’t have much patience for the sob stories from the police. Politics are an obvious part of your job. If you don’t like the politics, do a better job of policing your own. Or if you really can’t take it, quit. Don’t take public money and refuse to do your job.
I have mixed emotions on this one.i completely get it....but there is no way that I could justify putting citizens in my community in undo jeopardy from those who would do them harm by participating in a walkout.
Turn in my notice? Leave in a timely and responsible manner? Absolutely and it's entirely understandable and justifiable.
OTOH, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I would respond to a call in their jurisdiction unless it was an officer down call if I was a cop in a nearby jurisdiction.
You are so clueless. Ignoring the dumber thing you said (we can't rough up the blacks with no accountability)....
Do you think cops grow on trees? You realize they have to be certified by the state, right? Do you realize how much training it takes to make a cop even average? It takes years man. And if you haven't noticed, people aren't lining up to become the Po-Po these days. I wonder why?
Also, with the pandemic, no one is training new cops because of the restrictions put having 10+ people in a room, ect. There's already an issue replacing existing needs.
You are willfully stupid.
Sounds easy....just hire some other dudes....problem solved.
And to intimate that these cops walked off the job because they aren't allowed to rough up blacks anymore....well, it's the dumbest thing that he's ever said. And that is some high freaking cotton.
Bradley, from the bottom of my heart, I truly hope that your response times are not affected if you need their help. I hope the same for the good and decent citizens in Atlanta as well.
Imagine for a moment if every mistake you made at your job, you were at risk of someone trying to kill you.
For example, you walk up to the window of a car you pulled over and you accidentally walked beyond the door pillar and were subsequently standing in front of the window where some asshole might have an easier time shooting you in the face.
Or maybe you walk up and knock on a door while trying to serve a warrant and you stand in front of the door instead of beside it....so you get shot in the face through the door...or, better yet, what if the door you have to knock on has windows around it so there's NO SAFE PLACE to stand...but it's your job to knock on the door.
I have about 10,000 other examples I could give you for why you should have time for sob stories from police but I imagine that you don't care enough to read them.
Those sob stories aren't about not wanting to do our job btw. Most of us LOVE doing our job. But maybe people like you could just admit that you don't know wtf you are talking about when you talk about how we do our job....and maybe you could knock that BS off about how upset we are "because we can’t rough up the blacks with no accountability" anymore.
That's some serious bullshit man. That sort of propaganda helps no one.
And he's exactly the type that usually lands that gig. He knows it all....don't believe me, just ask him.
You sir , are deranged. And I actually hope that Atlanta ends up without police for a short period and that your area of NJ experiences the same.Maybe all the minimum wage minorities will jump at the chance for 40,000 grand a year and the chance at being killed and now at being charged for murder. That second amendment you probably want repealed just got justification.
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The ignorance in this post is astounding
So are you calling for most of Congress to resign?
Biden should have quit decades ago.
Biden did quit a decade ago when he became Obama’s court jester
I do know that @sadgator and @bradleygator think the same way Beedo(who uses English Muffins as buns on his burgers) O'Rourke does by thinking the world is a safer place without law abiding gun owners.
One of my most favorite threads. Make A Wish Foundation wish worthy.
Which thinker on this thread would disagree? None!!
Which thinker on this thread would disagree? None!!
Are you sure? Young @bradleygator is now claiming that he's not a dem and has never voted dem in his life. This comes after @BSC911 claimed to be a lifelong conservative who had to give it all up because well.....Orange Man Bad.
Have no idea why dems lie about who they are. Do they just assume everyone else is as gullible as they are?
Yeah, his ignoring GBI input was telling. He's about to get his arse handed to him in court.
They are Dims.
Every confrontation with a suspect can turn out like this. That is why we are taught to meet violence with an overwhelming response. The idea is to stop the situation before it turns deadly for anyone, including the suspect.
If you take away options like chokeholds or punching with a closed fist (yes, some departments severely limit when a punch is allowed to the point of endangering their officers), then the situation is more likely to escalate to guns. Obviously when that happens, more people die. That's what we're trying to prevent, right?
These two LEO's appeared to hesitate. To have a better chance of surviving your career, you MUST weed out hesitancy. What we're doing to LEO today is causing more hesitancy and that will 100% lead to more dead police.
You have the right attitude imho. We should NOT blindly defend police...but there must be recognition for the manner with which LEO's must make life or death decisions.
Often the real mistake, if one is made, by LE is one made long before lethal force is used. If you want or need to fire or counsel LE on their actions, focusing on those issues would be far more pertinent and effective.
Curious....do they have an 8th grade intellect because they're cops or because they're not showing up to work?
Not to be naive but why did they park directly behind and why try to handcuff him at the trunk instead of off to the side where it would be safer?
Now these guys used their closed fist to no effect.
Not sure about these guys but does your dept. teach locks other than a chokehold? Normal headlocks ? Ude-garami? Kimuras? Other armbars?
Once this went to ground I don't know that fists were the best move. If you get him into a kimura Chicken wing/hammer lock variant you are half way to handcuffing.
Like I have said I don't have any belts but I have helped my daughter and son train for theirs. The chicken wing is taught as part of a technique to disarm an opponent who is pulling a gun from their waistband. My son failed this 8 out of 10 times. His tech was perfect but he was too slow to be effective in real life. Girl had him shot before he even put his hand on her shoulder. He belted up but was embarrassed and frustrated. So I do know and understand that a real fight is a lot different than sparing in the dojo.
But the chicken wing could still be used in this situation IMHO and if he still wants to resist even under that pain then he can always have shoulder surgery and rehab but he aint shooting anyone at that point.
Its similar to this except you go over the subjects shoulder and grab the wrist with your right hand as you rotate the subject down. Then drive the subject to the ground and finish with a figure four kimura . Again the reason I mention this specific tech is that it has the subject in position to be handcuffed by the partner. Or in the specific case my kids practice the kimura is used as a lever to get the subject to let go of the gun with it behind them and pointed away from the defender.
Jui Jitsu training would go a long way IMHO just don't use locks that cut off blood flow to the brain!
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Choke holds for us would be a life or death maneuver. That's the only time we would ever even consider it. As I've said, I've used it once in my career against a man the was about 6'7 and wiry (I'm about 6') but he was out of his head high on something, more than likely many things. I deployed my taser twice and lit him up with it a total of three times with no effect. He was getting the best of me and twice reached for my weapon so I had two choices...shoot him or chokehold. Thankfully it worked.
We teach several types of leverage maneuver. Our Sheriff is big into Ju-Jitsu so that is his preference but he allows us to use our best judgment. Most common would probably be something like a standing arm bar or any number of wrist locks.
We're taught to stay off the ground if possible but there are certain situations where I will purposely take the fight to the ground if I feel like I will have the advantage.
Forget to answer this part. Tactically you're always in a better position if you're behind the subjects vehicle. I know pulling in front makes more sense to prevent a pull away and car chase but it gives the bad guy an equal shot if he pulls out a gun. If you're behind he has to get out and turn to shoot you with no door to protect him from return fire. The police vehicle should also be slightly canted so that the front of it will also offer some protection.
I'm not sure what you're referring to with regards to handcuffing him at the trunk. I'm not sure I've seen all the videos in their entirety.
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