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Sure got quiet in here.

A current member of the DoD task force states "if you think that they (the dept of defense) don't have the actual real results from the election? Then you're fooling yourself. They've got the goods. And Trump knew if he presented any of the goods early on, we'd have a Civil War. He really felt that the people needed to see how bad it would get."

This is a CURRENT member of the US government saying this.

THIS is why we have an echo chamber on this board. Because when the left is faced with facts that go against their talking points, they ignore it and act like it didn't happen.

And the hell of it? That wasn't even the most explosive thing she disclosed in that interview.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Sure got quiet in here.

A current member of the DoD task force states "if you think that they (the dept of defense) don't have the actual real results from the election? Then you're fooling yourself. They've got the goods. And Trump knew if he presented any of the goods early on, we'd have a Civil War. He really felt that the people needed to see how bad it would get."

This is a CURRENT member of the US government saying this.

THIS is why we have an echo chamber on this board. Because when the left is faced with facts that go against their talking points, they ignore it and act like it didn't happen.

And the hell of it? That wasn't even the most explosive thing she disclosed in that interview.
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I don’t know if I buy the US Corporation information, but Trump was president during the last election. If anyone has any data about a stolen election you’d think it would be the president.

I don’t know much about this lady, I hope she’s credible.
 
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fatman76 said:
I don’t know if I buy the US Corporation information, but Trump was president during the last election. If anyone has any data about a stolen election you’d think it would be the president.

I don’t know much about this lady, I hope she’s credible.
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The first time I heard of the US corporation theory was about 3 years ago from a guy on Twitter. His tweet and account were deleted almost immediately.

But she's right. Let's say Trump announces a few days after the election that Biden and Kamala have been arrested, along with the SOS and other key dems in GA, WI, PA, AZ and MI. All charged with conspiracy to steal an election, and Trump announces he's still president.

It would have been another Civil War.
 
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Im kind of internet illiterate....can someone tell me what ITT is. I see people say this, but I got no clue what it means
 
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Wait wait wait......timeout.

Hold the phone.

I totally missed this the first couple of times I watched this video. At the end of the video she mentions how Trump walked in front of the Queen, then motioned for her to follow and she said that meant that Trump was showing that our debt with England over the Civil War was done.

Fine. But did you catch what she said AFTER that???

She said (paraphrasing) "Well if you think the Queen was pissed, you should have seen the look on the Pope's face when we took ***650 planes worth of gold out of the Vatican***"

What the actual F?????

650 planes worth of gold????? How many TRILLIONS in gold would fit on *650* planes???
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Wait wait wait......timeout.

Hold the phone.

I totally missed this the first couple of times I watched this video. At the end of the video she mentions how Trump walked in front of the Queen, then motioned for her to follow and she said that meant that Trump was showing that our debt with England over the Civil War was done.

Fine. But did you catch what she said AFTER that???

She said (paraphrasing) "Well if you think the Queen was pissed, you should have seen the look on the Pope's face when we took ***650 planes worth of gold out of the Vatican***"

What the actual F?????

650 planes worth of gold????? How many TRILLIONS in gold would fit on *650* planes???
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Apparently it's roughly worth a quintillion.

Or enough to instantly make every person on the planet a millionaire.
 
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Suddenly hearing a lot about 1871 and the US really being a corporation.

I really don't know that much about this. What bits and pieces I've heard says England basically bankrolled the North's Civil War campaign, and after the Civil War and dealing with the Reconstruction of the South, the US was basically bankrupt. So, the theory goes, England stepped in and I think they gave us cash in exchange for the US moving from being a republic to being a 'corporation'. That transition somehow gave England control of the US.

I keep saying 'I think' and the 'theory' because I'm not sure what the deal is. And when I try to search on the internet for this information, there is almost NOTHING on it. Even the usual fact checking sites that tell me 'no this is all crazy talk, ignore the man behind the curtain' are hard to find.

Past experience tells me when they try to censor information, that means that information has value to someone, and can cause damage to someone else.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
rumble.com

Full Jan Halper -Hayes interview on GBN

Full Jan Halper -Hayes interview on GBN https://youtu.be/3zw8G1YC74M
rumble.com rumble.com

Hoo boy.....this is an earlier interview she did on GBTV it looks like right after the midterms.
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Need another timeout: Did I hear incorrectly, or did she claim that the Mar Lago raid was done to try to steal Trump's PEAs? And that they were associated with DEVOLUTION and CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT????

PEA stands for President Emergency Action:

www.brennancenter.org

Presidential Emergency Action Documents

Presidential Emergency Action Documents (PEADs) are executive orders, proclamations, and messages to Congress that are prepared in anticipation of a range of emergency scenarios.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

"Presidential Emergency Action Documents (PEADs) are executive orders, proclamations, and messages to Congress that are prepared in anticipation of a range of emergency scenarios, so that they are ready to sign and put into effect the moment one of those scenarios comes to pass. First created during the Eisenhower Administration as part of continuity-of-government plans in case of a nuclear attack, PEADs have since been expanded for use in other emergency situations where the normal operation of government is impaired."

Take this video and the previous one, and she's saying Donald J Trump is the current President of the United States.
 
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fatman76 said:
@GatorTheo - I suggest you tug on this thread. It's pretty crazy.

Yes, it may lead you to Gateway Pundit. No it won't give your browser AIDS.
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@GatorTheo already commented. "We got em now!"

That's what he always does. Says he hasn't seen any evidence of fraud, then when someone shows it or says they have it, he immediately dismisses.

First of all, I have no idea if Dr Jane Halper Hayes has the slightest idea what she is talking about. She could be a complete loon, she could be 100% accurate.

There's two reasons why her claims caught my eye.

1 - Trump shared the recent video interview with Dr Jan Halper-Hayes with this message on Truth Social: "Dr Jan Halper-Hayes is fantastic. Everyone has got to watch her interview on election fraud with the poor sap who got taken apart by her." So Trump is not only endorsing what she says, he's encouraging EVERYONE to watch it.

2 - In the interview, Hayes details the election fraud in 2020, but she started the interview with 'Biden IS the legitimate President....but he's the President of the United States CORPORATION."

That's WTF moment. Just like 'Obama spied on me!' Remember that?

She did the same thing Trump does, she dropped a truth bomb then offered no explanation for what she said. Actually she did explain a little bit more, but just enough to give anyone bread crumbs to start their own research.

I think that interview was a signal that we are about to enter a new disclosure phase. If so, that means the show is for REAL about to begin.
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
@GatorTheo already commented. "We got em now!"

That's what he always does. Says he hasn't seen any evidence of fraud, then when someone shows it or says they have it, he immediately dismisses.

First of all, I have no idea if Dr Jane Halper Hayes has the slightest idea what she is talking about. She could be a complete loon, she could be 100% accurate.

There's two reasons why her claims caught my eye.

1 - Trump shared the recent video interview with Dr Jan Halper-Hayes with this message on Truth Social: "Dr Jan Halper-Hayes is fantastic. Everyone has got to watch her interview on election fraud with the poor sap who got taken apart by her." So Trump is not only endorsing what she says, he's encouraging EVERYONE to watch it.

2 - In the interview, Hayes details the election fraud in 2020, but she started the interview with 'Biden IS the legitimate President....but he's the President of the United States CORPORATION."

That's WTF moment. Just like 'Obama spied on me!' Remember that?

She did the same thing Trump does, she dropped a truth bomb then offered no explanation for what she said. Actually she did explain a little bit more, but just enough to give anyone bread crumbs to start their own research.

I think that interview was a signal that we are about to enter a new disclosure phase. If so, that means the show is for REAL about to begin.
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You misunderstand my position.

I voted for Trump twice. I was thrilled he won the first one and disappointed he lost the second.

I'm sure the democrats pulled some shenanigans and I would love to see something overturned or at least someone, somewhere pay a price.

But it's been almost three years. I'm tired of twitter smoking guns that sound meaningful and then they just die out. It's over. If we care, we need to be focusing on the next election.

The difference between you and I is that, while I like many things about Trump and I think he may be our best viable option for President, I also realize that he has significant flaws. He's an unlikeable, monstrously selfish guy.

You, on the other hand, LOVE the guy and would believe anything anyone anywhere said that supported Trump.
 
GatorTheo said:
You misunderstand my position.
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I understand your position completely. Watch this:

GatorTheo said:
I'm sure the democrats pulled some shenanigans and I would love to see something overturned or at least someone, somewhere pay a price.

But it's been almost three years. I'm tired of twitter smoking guns that sound meaningful and then they just die out. It's over. If we care, we need to be focusing on the next election.

The difference between you and I is that, while I like many things about Trump and I think he may be our best viable option for President, I also realize that he has significant flaws. He's an unlikeable, monstrously selfish guy.

You, on the other hand, LOVE the guy and would believe anything anyone anywhere said that supported Trump.
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And there it is. In your mind, election fraud = Trump, and you don't like Trump so you don't like election fraud.

Trump and election fraud are two completely different things. It's amazing this has to be explained to you.

But THIS statement blows my mind:

GatorTheo said:
But it's been almost three years. I'm tired of twitter smoking guns that sound meaningful and then they just die out. It's over. If we care, we need to be focusing on the next election.
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So in your mind, investigating potential election fraud has an expiration date. If the cheaters can go X number of years and get away with it, then we 'just move on'.

Again, you view election fraud and Trump as being the same thing. That's why you are fine with just move on, cause if we prove election fraud is real, in your mind that helps Trump.

And we can't have that.

In my mind, if we just move on from a stolen election, we have destroyed our country.

That hurts ME. That hurts YOU.

But I can see that, cause I can view this topic and Donald J Trump as being the two separate topics that they are.

You shouldn't need this explained to you.
 
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You misunderstand my position.

I voted for Trump twice. I was thrilled he won the first one and disappointed he lost the second.

I'm sure the democrats pulled some shenanigans and I would love to see something overturned or at least someone, somewhere pay a price.

But it's been almost three years. I'm tired of twitter smoking guns that sound meaningful and then they just die out. It's over. If we care, we need to be focusing on the next election.

The difference between you and I is that, while I like many things about Trump and I think he may be our best viable option for President, I also realize that he has significant flaws. He's an unlikeable, monstrously selfish guy.

You, on the other hand, LOVE the guy and would believe anything anyone anywhere said that supported Trump.
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I agree that the dems / deep state pulled shenanigans. I would say they stole the election. We cant let that type of behavior go. If they get a pass on it, they will keep doing it, and they will get better at it. We cant reward it by ignoring it.
 
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jsfgators said:
I agree that the dems / deep state pulled shenanigans. I would say they stole the election. We cant let that type of behavior go. If they get a pass on it, they will keep doing it, and they will get better at it. We cant reward it by ignoring it.
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Best of luck to you and @GhostOfMatchesMalone in pursuing this story. I truly hope you can bring someone to justice or bring some additional security to future elections.
 
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GatorTheo said:
You misunderstand my position.

I voted for Trump twice. I was thrilled he won the first one and disappointed he lost the second.

I'm sure the democrats pulled some shenanigans and I would love to see something overturned or at least someone, somewhere pay a price.

But it's been almost three years. I'm tired of twitter smoking guns that sound meaningful and then they just die out. It's over. If we care, we need to be focusing on the next election.

The difference between you and I is that, while I like many things about Trump and I think he may be our best viable option for President, I also realize that he has significant flaws. He's an unlikeable, monstrously selfish guy.

You, on the other hand, LOVE the guy and would believe anything anyone anywhere said that supported Trump.
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This one proves what you’ve been asking.

Clear evidence of fraud, clear evidence of who paid for it, and clear evidence when it was escalated to the FBI it was DOA.

This is how “widespread fraud with no action” looks, which was your original question.
 
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GatorTheo said:
Best of luck to you and @GhostOfMatchesMalone in pursuing this story. I truly hope you can bring someone to justice or bring some additional security to future elections.
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Again, if the 3 letter agencies won’t do anything despite evidence Barney Fife could understand what is going to happen?

The scam is simple.
1) Pay organizations to create fake registrations.
2) File those registrations creating bloated voter rolls. Only thing that went wrong here is the idiot in this specific county tried to do too many at once and an election official called the police.
3) NEVER clean up bloated voter rolls, because that’s the air cover for fraud.
4) Intercept and cast these “mass mail in” ballots.
5) Have SOS and Governors control election laws in the future so you can rinse and repeat.

This is how you had precincts in places like Detroit cast more ballots than age-eligible voters.

And the federal authorities that should be prosecuting this are corrupt.
 
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Let’s see what we know about our Gov.

• censored Americans
• censored doctors during covid
• destroyed J6 committee evidence
• funds biolabs in Ukraine and abroad
• helped fund gain of function in wuhan
• is persecuting political opponents
• lied about a dossier and russia collusion
• lied about Hunters laptop
• lied about covid origins
• won’t release epsteins list
• won’t release remaining JFK files
• lied about the vaccine
• lied about masks
• used the FBI to attack catholics
• used the FBI to intimidate parents
• sent IRS to intimidate Matt Taibi
• lied about WMDs
• won’t release J6 footage
• won’t give J6 prisoners due process
• didn’t interview J6 capital police chief
• allowed hillary to destroy evidence
• blew up the Nordstream (damn right they did)


I am certain I left tons out, maybe I will just keep a running list in here….

But……There is no way, that those people….would steal an election. Just no way, no how. That’s a step too far, you damn lunatics.

Ain’t Freedom Great!!!!
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Need another timeout: Did I hear incorrectly, or did she claim that the Mar Lago raid was done to try to steal Trump's PEAs? And that they were associated with DEVOLUTION and CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT????

PEA stands for President Emergency Action:

www.brennancenter.org

Presidential Emergency Action Documents

Presidential Emergency Action Documents (PEADs) are executive orders, proclamations, and messages to Congress that are prepared in anticipation of a range of emergency scenarios.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

"Presidential Emergency Action Documents (PEADs) are executive orders, proclamations, and messages to Congress that are prepared in anticipation of a range of emergency scenarios, so that they are ready to sign and put into effect the moment one of those scenarios comes to pass. First created during the Eisenhower Administration as part of continuity-of-government plans in case of a nuclear attack, PEADs have since been expanded for use in other emergency situations where the normal operation of government is impaired."

Take this video and the previous one, and she's saying Donald J Trump is the current President of the United States.
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Did you catch her title?

European Advisor to Trump's 2020 Campaign.
 
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fatman76 said:
This one proves what you’ve been asking.

Clear evidence of fraud, clear evidence of who paid for it, and clear evidence when it was escalated to the FBI it was DOA.

This is how “widespread fraud with no action” looks, which was your original question.
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And his dismissive tone upon seeing it tells us all we need to know.
 
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