One good thing about about losing, I get to ban noles that come here before the game is even over to rub it in.
GameDay Thread/Florida vs FSU
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Waste of time starting treon Saturday. How he or anyone on this team thought he was better than Grier is beyond me. To me it is impossible to be a division 1 team and be this bad at QB and kicker. There are teams in the sunbelt w better QBs than treon.
He's the worst QB of all time, even driskel is somewhere smirking.
This was more embarrassing than the loss to Ga southern
That was the most sickening loss ive ever witnessed in Gator history in my lifetime.
So I wonder how people feel about the scenario I started the thread about? Start out 10-1 then lose out...it's looking real. Everyone was all 'we've exceeded expectations I wouldn't be bothered!' But think about it...I said at the time it would be very concerning to me because it would mean we aren't getting better. We should be able to steal at least one if players are improving under the staff. Be real right now...does anyone see us winning another game this year? How is that a good sign even if we've way overachieved to this point? If it ends that way it's Muschamp's second season all over again...fools gold. Barely escape some shitty teams then get rocked by anybody with a pulse.
So after w full month of putrid offensive performance, I will not be shocked if we drop out of the top 25, or at least come very close.
One extra year give to Muschamp is at the core. The loser didnt recruit, didnt evaluate talent. Laters its on Will Grier as well, how can he let his team down like this and than I see people blocking in back and getting stupid penalties again. How can a div 1 team cant have a kicker.
I think we win the bowl game. Time to get healthy and work on our plan.
Don't think we finish the season ranked though.
Don't think we finish the season ranked though.
You still have 10 wins. That should keep you ranked no matter what happens in the next game or two.
LOL no. Our offensive production almost doubled last year with Treon who was a true freshman. And we now see that Treons is a very bad QB himself. So what does that say about Driskel? Driskel also had way more talent surrounding him. There's not even a comparison. Driskel made a line with 4 lineman drafted look bad because he was that terrible of a decision maker. With this oline he'd literally melt down on the field even worse than he did against the likes of Mizzou last year. I'm not letting you rewrite history here. Driskel is WOAT by a huge margin, not even close. The fact that you can even compare the results of a 6'4 230 lb. freak like Driskel to a guy who is 5'9 185 trying to play QB is proof positive of who was worse. Their results should not have been in the same ballpark on talent alone.
I realize it's a MuschAmp hold over issue but our offensive staff did zero to have a good game plan to help treon have some sort of chance to be successful. This staff has been beyond bad as far as play design, blitz pick up, blitz beaters, and creativity to help
Since November started.
Since November started.
Our oline actually did a decent job tonight IMO. We ran the ball pretty well. Harris missed two wide open Callaway TD passes where he was given plenty of time to throw and had good pass protection. An average QB makes both those throws.
McElwain needs to continue to recruit QBs like crazy and then hope Luke Del Rio is serviceable. Del Rio is certainly better than Harris.
McElwain needs to continue to recruit QBs like crazy and then hope Luke Del Rio is serviceable. Del Rio is certainly better than Harris.
I think we need to face the fact that we have ten wins and an East Championship not because we are that good, but because everyone else sucks that bad.
Disagree. The difference in this game vs previous games is that the coaches schemed to get guys wide open and Treon actually threw to them. He just missed each of them...badly. I counted six very bad misses. Two for TDs
If you can't be mature enough to ignore his stupid posts then you deserve the banning you just got.
Uh yea, like I keep saying Nuss is every bit as bad as Harris. We move up and down the fiel in the 2-minute offense then we never see it again. It's been the case all year. We run one screen pass the first drive of that game that goes for big yardage and we never see that again. He's done absolutely nothing to help this line or either QB all year.
When teams like UT, UK, or Mizzou were blitzing us with no mercy we never once saw a screen. How do you help a young oline struggling with a pass rush? You run draws, some screens, quick passes, etc. Run a little tempo to keep the defenses simple and tire them out. Can't block in the run game? Run some option to force the defense to stay at home. Hell if you're optioning a defender you don't even have to block him. Instead this moron runs straight ahead into the dline series after series trying to establish a power run game when we clearly can't block it and tries to have a 5'9 QB drop back and be a pocket passer down after down behind an oline that can't even form a pocket to begin with. It's completely nonsensical. But everybody gives him a pass and focuses on the QB.
While I agree...winning all those games even while not being world beaters beat the hell out of losing those games while not being world beaters.
I am flabbergasted at how poorly Harris played...and the lack of a credible kicker at a high level D1 program.
But...
Much better to be 10-2 than 7-5. However it happens, fanbase is sophisticated to know that wining alone does not mean there are not issues. Feel certain those will be addressed.
Beating Tennessee with two fourth quarter TDs, beating the ever loving crap out of Mississippi, and dominating Georgia...all really sweet...and those last two games were big wins over teams that went 9-3.
So...lots of good out of this, even with tonight's debacle.
We didn't switch anything up to get guys open, watch it again. There's the two on the goal line and one corner route sometime in the third, that's it. The other few happened because of FSU's (stupid) coverage. They continually rushed 3 and dropped 8 so we had a crazy amount of time on some 3rd downs. It allowed our receivers to buy some time. The first Calloway pass for example he ran a corner route that wasn't open. Then he turned it up field and it broke open. That wasn't play design. He just found a spot in the zone and took advantage of it.
Agreed. We take a 7-0 lead if Harris was just an average QB. Callaway was wide open and he under throws him by 10 yards. That isn't a D1 caliber QB throw at all. The very first pass of the game to Goolsby was a possible 10 yard gain but it was such an awful pass it was behind Goolsby that only gained 1 yard. Right then I knew it would be a long night. The coaching staff opened up with an easy throw to get your QB going and it was a hideous pass. No amount of coaching is going to help Harris. Unfortunately he's that bad.
Most of all that sounds like a scheme to me. "If this happens, you do that." Mac has said as much. But what do I know? I just listen to what he says.
By all means, continue to bash Nuss. But as bad as Treon plays, no coach could be successful
And Driskel missed much easier passes routinely for 4 years and you still defended him. Also turned the ball over at a much higher rate. The same terrible Treon led an offense that improved almost twofold over when Driskel was starting, which is the biggest indictment there is. And you are literally the only person who thinks Del Rio is anything other than what he is...a walkon. Couldn't get a scholarship from anywhere so he walkson to Bama then transfers to Oregon St. and again rides the bench. Stop the madness. There isn't a single QB worth a damn on this roster. And there won't be in the future either as long as Nuss keeps taking 2-star QB's who can't even start on their own damn HS team.
No amount of coaching is gonna help Treon. They tried to give him an easy completion in his first pass and he botched that with a hideous throw. Del Rio is better than Harris. Harris isn't even a D1 QB. But hey I said it the day Harris signed with us that I didn't think he was a SEC caliber QB. I saw all his flaws on high school film that aren't correctable.
Not scheme, it's basically scramble drill except in the case I described there was no scramble. It's like if for example I run a post and it doesn't clear, then I just get open in the zone at that point. That's what happened. And I don't care about Treon, they deserve each other. Shitty coach, shitty QB.
Reading through all this, it's as if FSU wasn't even there. UF just beat themselves and we could have just stayed home.
It's highly possible that Treon couldn't have completed a drive against air.
Pretty much sums it up.
Early in the game when Florida went for it on 4th and short from the SOW twenty, a bad snap was picked up by Harris who proceeded to fall down. Same would have happened with no defense.
The missed wide open receivers, running open as though there were no defenders, were missed by five or more yards.
However, you are right, without SOW there to finally push the final score against an exhausted do everything defense the game woukd have ended 0-0,
Early in the game when Florida went for it on 4th and short from the SOW twenty, a bad snap was picked up by Harris who proceeded to fall down. Same would have happened with no defense.
The missed wide open receivers, running open as though there were no defenders, were missed by five or more yards.
However, you are right, without SOW there to finally push the final score against an exhausted do everything defense the game woukd have ended 0-0,
Are you seriously whining? Seriously?
Damn boy, are you really that tone deaf?
I don't say this often but I hope you gators beat the snot out of Bama next week even though that means OSU gets in to the playoffs.
Game went like I thought it would. Impressed by UF defense and glad a lot of them are leaving. UF's offense is probably the worst we saw all year along with BC. FSU is much improved since McGuire took over. Jimbo made a mistake by taking Golson in hindsight.
You may have a bigger issue if this is true since Brantley was our MVP in 2010 & 2011.
Give fsu some credit, they mostly avoided turnovers except for the 1. Our inability to hit wide open receivers was too much for our defense to overcome.
Chew on this for a minute. We had more yards and more first downs than FSU going into the 4th quarter. Kelvin Taylor had more yards rushing than Cook going into the 4th quarter. That tells me 2 things: 1) Our defense is fantastic 2) if we had a competent QB we win that game last night. Our running game would have been even better and our defense woukdnt have had to be on the field all night. We also would have been up 7-0 with a competent QB and that would have made it a different ballgame in itself. Unfortunately it is what it is and we have the QB problem that we do.
