Franks
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The oline is a bigger concern. They’re in a scheme that makes it much easier for them and they still get embarrassed. On one call in the 4th on a 2nd and short Mullen spread the entire width of the field, literally. We had receivers outside the hashes and Kentucky was forced to move defenses over there. We had a 5 on 4 advantage upfront not counting our QB or RB and we still got stuffed. Completely blown back. You can’t do anything with that shit.
The SEC is a line of scrimmage league. We got destroyed up front play after play. You don't win games against good opponents without talented and passionate players in the trenches. Kentucky looked more talented and they certainly played with more passion. Subbing Trask or Jones for Franks doesn't change a thing.
While that might be correct in this one case, it's certainly not a proven fact at this point.
Go tell Wuerffel that about his games vs the criminoles.
He was also getting killed in some other games, but he overcame it and he still made the plays anyway. IF you watch the game over and over, keying in on one position, after a while you can see/tell who is getting their job done most of the time, and who is rarely getting it done.
Do that for the last game at the TE position, then come back and tell me who you think should be starting and getting most of the reps...
Call sadgator crazy, but as others have said, Franks appears worlds better than he was last year. He wasn’t spectacular, but he didn’t cost us that game at all. If anything, his play was a positive. Agree with oozie on the scapegoat thing. It is too simplistic to blame Franks for this loss.
GREAT. Glad to hear that crazy and the oooze agree on Franks, it makes all the difference in the world on the outcomes of future games...
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I just disagree with you, Insta, that the main problem is the QB. I know you've been a proponent for Trask for 2 years and maybe he'll get his chance at some point. But we have way bigger problems than Felipe Franks. At least that's how I see it.While that might be correct in this one case, it's certainly not a proven fact at this point.
Go tell Wuerffel that about his games vs the criminoles.
He was also getting killed in some other games, but he overcame it and he still made the plays anyway. IF you watch the game over and over, keying in on one position, after a while you can see/tell who is getting their job done most of the time, and who is rarely getting it done.
Do that for the last game at the TE position, then come back and tell me who you think should be starting and getting most of the reps...
Ocala, we don't have any problem with this because different opinions are normal and fine with me.We respect each other's opinions and the right for us to each have one, different or not.
If you read all of what I post carefully, I'm just posting the general facts and stats on Franks. I'm not hating on him and I've never claimed that he's the only problem. I also don't KNOW that Trask would be any more successful, but imo, it's long past time to find out in a game with him as the #1 all week in practice and the game starter. If he does no better than Franks, (gawd forbid) then as I said in a post before the season, it would be time to go ahead and throw Emory in and let him begin getting the training in practice, and game day experience.
Now, this is opinion, but based on what I've seen with my own eyes, and what the game stats show. Franks is not a good enough QB to be the Gator starter today. Mullen claims that he and Johnson decided that Franks gave them the 'best chance to win NOW.' That's rather obviously not true >>>> UF 16 - 27 UK with Franks throwing for 44%, while running more (11) than the 3 most productive RB's (10) in the game combined. On the read/run options, he too often kept the ball instead of handing it off.
If they want to spend the next 3 years attempting to groom Franks up to eventually become a competent winning QB, then that's their decision to make, but at least admit that's what they are doing, instead of claiming that Franks gives them 'The Best Chance To Win Now' BS....
sadgator was actually pretty proud of Franks last night (and sadgator has been a rather big critic in the past). He didn’t act like a showboat or do anything other than try super hard to win us a game while being under duress most of the evening. You can’t fault a kid for that. Hope he keeps his head up and uses it positively.
What?
Do some of you listen to yourselves?
Same problem as always.
"hey, that Danny guy is saying it's all Franks fault."
No. I'm saying that I agree, there were a lot of problem. Especially defensively.
I'm also pretty sure that I've said that Franks looks like he's gotten better under Mullen.
Now here's the problem: you then want to say that it wasn't his fault at all?
That's nonsense.
And yet I'll keep getting bashed because all anybody reads is "hey, did he say it's all Franks fault? That's not right boop a doop a doo!"
Nope. Not what I said.
But you are insane if you think that Franks didn't regress as the game went on and made bad reads, threwbad passes, etc. how in the world do all of you constantly find a way to blame one thing for every problem?
There are MULTIPLE problems.
Just like the Muschamp days. I would read you people shouting at the top of your keyboards that it's ALL Muschamp's fault.
I would say "well, I mean I don't like the excuse but to be fair we did have an absurd amount of i juries."
"DOESNT MATTER WE ARE FLORIDA WE SHOULDNT LOSE MUSXHAMP IS A BULLDOG PLANT HERE TO DESTROY US."
Or, you know, maybe there were plyer development issues and recruiting issues that we could talk about, but noooo...let's blame it on whatever one aspect that you grasp onto to blame all the problems on.
Silly silly silly.
We all have very strong opinions and that's fine. I just want our teams to win and will always pull for them no matter what. In all kinds of weather.....
Everyone knows about the dunnygoaters long time total fixation on the Great and Marvelous Franks, so don't you dare say anything bad about either one of them.
That seems highly unlikely considering I don't like him, and thought it was a bad idea that we "flipped" a guy that Les Miles wanted at QB.
But okay.
Been pumping Franks over Trask for 3 years,,, but now loser Franks is a Miles Bum.
Whatever your say dunny-goater, now go back to petting your circle...
Whatever your say dunny-goater, now go back to petting your circle...
Been pumping Franks over Trask for 3 years,,, but now loser Franks is a Miles Bum.
Whatever your say dunny-goater, now go back to petting your circle...
I would also argue that Cheerios are better than Wheaties, but I don't like either of them. They both suck.
See how that works?
Dear village idiot jerkers, TLDNR...
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Practice like it's a 'walk-through,' and then play like it's a 'sleep-walk-through' and you're done for...
Coaches Teach, then players play, or they just play around. The coaches can't play for the players. For right now, it's on the players way more than on the coaches imoho.
That said, if Mullen tells me one more time that Franks just missed a play or a decision here and there, I'm gonna wish that I could reach out and slap him even more than I do already. Franks is probably a nice and decent person, but as the Gator QB, he SUCKS!!! Over-throws, under-throws where receivers managed to partially save the play, locking in on one guy, while not seeing wide open receivers (Davis on the 2pt attempt), AND ON AND ON. In my own armature-know-nothing eyes, Franks makes Brantley look like the 2nd coming of Wuerffel, and Driskel look like the 2nd coming of Tebow... IF Franks is truly 'the best QB on the roster,' then I guess I'll have to console myself with looking forward to Jalon Jones arrival next season and pray that he's a good bit better...
As to Franks never losing confidence during his many losses...
Captain Ahab never lost confidence either, but the white whale still eventually ate his lunch.
Col. Custer was more than confident in his own superior tactical ability to kick those damn Indians butts.
However, Stevie Wonder knows that you don't need eyes to see reality, just a willingness to do so....
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Franks - 17 of 38, 44.7% for 2342 yds, 2 TD's, 1 Int.
Rushing - 11 for 44 yds, 4.0 ypc, 0 TD's
Perine - 4 for 34 yds, 8.5 ypc, 0 TDs, L-15
Rec - 1 for 18 yds (18.0)
Toney 2 for 10 yds, 5.0 ypc, 0 TD's, L-8
Rec - 2 for 35 yds. (17.5)
Davis 4 for 15 yds, 3.8 ypc, 0 TD's, L-10
Rec - 2 for 25 yds. (12.5)
Scarlett - 7 for 25 yds, 3.6 ypc, 0 TD's, L-9
Rec - 2 for 34 yds. (17.0)
~ 4th in ypc, 3rd in yds/rec
Roughly, 39 passing to 28 rushing, and Franks had 11 of the runs, so only 17 rushing attempts by the runners, and the one with the least ypc got the most (7) of those few.
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Swain - 3 for 30 yds, 10 ypr, 1 TD, L-19
Jefferson - 2 for 31 yds, 15.5 ypr, 0 TD's, L-18
Cleveland - 2 for 21 yds, 10.5 ypr, 0 TD's, L-11
Stephens - 1 for 18 yds, 18.0 ypr, 1 TD, L-18
Hammond - 1 for 11 yds, 11.0 ypr, 0 TD's, L-11
Grimes - 1 for 9 yds, 9.0 ypr, 0 TD's, L-9
Raymond - Squat, 1 drop
Lewis - Squat - ??
Coaches also recruit and teach their style of football. Neither of which Mullen has had a fraction of the amount of time it takes to win in the SEC. Throw the streak out the window, this was still a game against an SEC opponent that has gone to back to back bowl games and should of beaten the Gators last year.
Franks was one of the reasons for the loss, but the OL, Defense, special teams, etc. were too. This team is void of SEC talent, UK isn't, that is why they won.
Insta last week:
“We know what Franks is and it isn’t good enough. Charleston Southern was a cupcake and doesn’t prove much!”
Also Insta: “Trask was 3/3 against Charleston Southern!”
Are you just that intellectually dishonest, dumb, or both?
“We know what Franks is and it isn’t good enough. Charleston Southern was a cupcake and doesn’t prove much!”
Also Insta: “Trask was 3/3 against Charleston Southern!”
Are you just that intellectually dishonest, dumb, or both?
Franks can’t do the RPO effectively, it seems.
That game was not only Franks. We looked terrible everywhere.
O line, D line, secondary.
We could block or tackle.
We looked bad.
That game was not only Franks. We looked terrible everywhere.
O line, D line, secondary.
We could block or tackle.
We looked bad.
Were some of you watching the same game I was? Franks wasn’t that bad. Did he play good? No but the main reason for that loss was the defense was embarrassingly horrible. Grantham has done this before in the past where his defense just gets ran all over even when you know it’s coming. Remember when we only threw like 6 passes against his defense a few years ago when he was at UGA? Now to be fair as well our LBers and Safeties are about as bad as I have seen in decades here at UF and losing Marco Wilson isn’t going to help things. The loss was squarely in their shoulders. The next worse thing on the team was the oline.
It was a team effort that is for sure but I think we all know what we have with Franks despite him getting some real coaching now. This most likely will be a train wreck this season and Trask will definitely get to come in and play and show what he can do.
That QB in front of him in high school looked pretty good at Houston the other day so there was no shame in being his backup in high school.
