Can't tell if serious or not? You do know Meyer has 3 national titles with 3 different starting QBs.Just like Meyer without Tebow at UF. Does that make Meyer a bad coach too?
Can't tell if serious or not? You do know Meyer has 3 national titles with 3 different starting QBs.Just like Meyer without Tebow at UF. Does that make Meyer a bad coach too?
Yeah. He should probably think before he opens his mouth next time. I was wondering if he was so traumatized by Tebow that he totally forgot Chris Leak. Hell Meyer started 3 different QBs in his last championship year.Can't tell if serious or not? You do know Meyer has 3 national titles with 3 different starting QBs.
Dead serious....if people are going to cherry pick stats (i.e. Jimbo sucks without Jameis) at least be consistent. Meyer had middling years at UF without Tebow. That is a fact. Trying to use arguments such as he never would have won if...are silly. Gator rivals do it all the time with UF backing in to 3 titles....I don't buy in to that. You produce your own luck and whether you like it or not, Jimbo with or without Jameis is one of the top coaches in the game. Back out the Jameis numbers ...cherry pick what you want. His win loss record is one of the best in college football and I won't even get in to what he has done to UF and UM our two biggest rivals.Can't tell if serious or not? You do know Meyer has 3 national titles with 3 different starting QBs.
Kirby has the talent to win a natty this year. The odds would STILL be high that he wouldn't be there 7-8 years after. The is the nature of the beast at a Power 5 team.and the odds still are, kirby has to win more than 7 games against mediocre teams to pull that off.. the rest of this season will say plenty about him, and two L's for sure are coming.. im not fooled by bama ball without saban and his players
You are making my point for me. Thanks...bc that sure wasn't the story when Urban left UF.Errr... this would be a salient point if not for the fact that Meyer went on to win a national championship at Ohio State, with a third sting quarterback. At this point, Meyer is probably the only coach in CFB, whose name is not Saban, who can credibly claim GOAT tier.
Solid post, Bradley. Odds are VERY high that regardless of who your favorite team is, your coach will not be there in 5 years for performance reasons. Most fans can't accept that. Probably 2-3 percent of coaches are good enough to keep their jobs beyond that....fans will continue to think that their program is good enough to plug and play. That is not the way it works.I used to be jaded enough, as a UF fan who started college there at the end of the Spurrier era (my first year was Spurrier's last, so the majority of my time, Zook was the coach, talk about a bait and switch!), that during Spurs' last year, I was bitching about our defense and our recruiting falling off. I really thought we could plug just about anyone in there and fall backward into 10 wins a year. I was very wrong. The right coach is a prerequisite to success and there's really only a handful that are capable of winning big at big time programs. It doesn't matter how big a football factory you're talking about, how much money they have, how big a recruiting base. Just look at the extended mediocrity of Michigan pre-Harbaugh (and he's not exactly kicking the doors off the hinges), USC since Carrol, 'Bama, pre-Saban, FSU late in the Bowden era, UF since Meyer. It goes on and on.
Even someone like Richt at UGA. They might have been the rare program to pull off an upgrade. But when they fired Richt, the percentages were against them finding someone who could win as much as Richt did.
I wish we still had Mark Stoops. He was a solid DC at FSU, and he's doing better at Kentucky than either Mac or Jimbo are doing with far more talent.
Hello?? Meyer has won 3 national titles. He won 2 at UF with 2 different starting QBs. The situation isn't even close to Fisher's. He won those national titles with different QBs.Dead serious....if people are going to cherry pick stats (i.e. Jimbo sucks without Jameis) at least be consistent. Meyer had middling years at UF without Tebow. That is a fact. Trying to use arguments such as he never would have won if...are silly. Gator rivals do it all the time with UF backing in to 3 titles....I don't buy in to that. You produce your own luck and whether you like it or not, Jimbo with or without Jameis is one of the top coaches in the game. Back out the Jameis numbers ...cherry pick what you want. His win loss record is one of the best in college football and I won't even get in to what he has done to UF and UM our two biggest rivals.
Meyer would not have won in 2006 or 2008 without Tebow. Do you know how I know this? I know this bc I was told this endlessly by UF fans on THIS BOARD, when Meyer went to OSU. I was also told that UF was a plug and play situation, and that UF made Meyer, not the other way around, that he would not have the success at OSU like he did at UF. Those were dominant sentiments on this board (with a handful of exceptions, such as Sad)Hello?? Meyer has won 3 national titles. He won 2 at UF with 2 different starting QBs. The situation isn't even close to Fisher's. He won those national titles with different QBs.
Huh? Who said that?? I don't remember that at all. That was sour grapes. It was obvious from his time at UF that he was a big time coach. To this day I have said Meyer is one of the GOAT college head coaches.Meyer would not have won in 2006 or 2008 without Tebow. Do you know how I know this? I know this bc I was told this endlessly by UF fans on THIS BOARD, when Meyer went to OSU. I was also told that UF was a plug and play situation, and that UF made Meyer, not the other way around, that he would not have the success at OSU like he did at UF. Those were dominant sentiments on this board (with a handful of exceptions, such as Sad)
You starting to see now how ridiculous it is to cherry pick stats?
I wish we still had Mark Stoops. He was a solid DC at FSU, and he's doing better at Kentucky than either Mac or Jimbo are doing with far more talent.
Meyer would not have won in 2006 or 2008 without Tebow. Do you know how I know this? I know this bc I was told this endlessly by UF fans on THIS BOARD, when Meyer went to OSU. I was also told that UF was a plug and play situation, and that UF made Meyer, not the other way around, that he would not have the success at OSU like he did at UF. Those were dominant sentiments on this board (with a handful of exceptions, such as Sad)
You starting to see now how ridiculous it is to cherry pick stats?