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Draft night!!! Pitts and Toney go to?

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Atlanta at #4 and Toney I’m clueless. A lot say the Packers and now Aaron Rodgers wants out?
 
Jags stinking it up IMO. Lawrence was a gimme but too early for Etienne and way too early for Tyson Campbell.
 
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Plenty of mocks had Etienne going around there. Some had him ahead of Najee. I don't see how it's a bad pick.
 
And Kyle Trask goes to my second favorite location from a fit standpoint.

I had the Steelers first, because he reminds me a lot of Ben, but the Bucs second. New Orleans was my third.

Thank GOD he didn't go to the Texans.
 
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And Kyle Trask goes to my second favorite location from a fit standpoint.

I had the Steelers first, because he reminds me a lot of Ben, but the Bucs second. New Orleans was my third.

Thank GOD he didn't go to the Texans.
I think the Bucs got a bit of a steal all the way down at #64 and a great backup for Brady. Since the Bucs O is designed for the dropback guy, if he has to go in the offense is already built to his strengths. You are right about the Texans, that would have been a terrible place for Trask. Completely different offense than his strengths, plus a terribly dysfunctional front office and culture. So much drama. The only problem I see for Trask is that age doesn't affect Brady. I mean Garoppolo was supposed to be the heir apparent and he's now going into his 8th year. But maybe Brady will go somewhere else when this contract ends. So there's some hope.
 
Plenty of mocks had Etienne going around there. Some had him ahead of Najee. I don't see how it's a bad pick.
Nowadays in the NFL RBs are a dime a dozen and most teams don’t have featured RBs anymore. Seeing more and more teams use multiple RBs. And there shelf life isn’t that long these days.

And more than anything it wasn’t a position of need for Jacksonville. They had a 1,000 yard rusher last year in rookie James Robinson. The Jags signed Carlos Hyde as well. This pick of Etienne is getting lots of bad grades around the national media. Not so much for where he was taken but completely wrong team.
 
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Nowadays in the NFL RBs are a dime a dozen and most teams don’t have featured RBs anymore. Seeing more and more teams use multiple RBs. And there shelf life isn’t that long these days.

And more than anything it wasn’t a position of need for Jacksonville. They had a 1,000 yard rusher last year in rookie James Robinson. The Jags signed Carlos Hyde as well. This pick of Etienne is getting lots of bad grades around the national media. Not so much for where he was taken but completely wrong team.
Urban said he is going to rebuild this team with speed, so I assume this is the first step in that plan.

Problem is, everybody in the NFL is fast. In college you build for speed so you can put 4.4 WR's against 4.8 DB's. In the pros you are putting 4.4 WR's against 4.5 DB's.

Honestly, I would rather have given up both Etienne and that Georgia CB, plus next year's #1, to trade up for Pitts (assuming Atlanta would have agreed, which is no sure thing). It's those guys that win games in the NFL. Speed, size and power combined.

This draft is making it look like Urbs isn't as ready for prime time as he thought he was, or we hoped he was.
 
Urban said he is going to rebuild this team with speed, so I assume this is the first step in that plan.

Problem is, everybody in the NFL is fast. In college you build for speed so you can put 4.4 WR's against 4.8 DB's. In the pros you are putting 4.4 WR's against 4.5 DB's.

Honestly, I would rather have given up both Etienne and that Georgia CB, plus next year's #1, to trade up for Pitts (assuming Atlanta would have agreed, which is no sure thing). It's those guys that win games in the NFL. Speed, size and power combined.

This draft is making it look like Urbs isn't as ready for prime time as he thought he was, or we hoped he was.
If he can build something to what the Chiefs have going on, he may be alright.
 
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If Lawrence can develop like Mahomes, then maybe.

As I have heard it said, NFL teams don't get better, they get better quarterbacks.
It does make an average team a real contender it seems in recent years if you have one of those top 5 area QBs. I think the salary cap elevated the importance a lot.
 
Urban said he is going to rebuild this team with speed, so I assume this is the first step in that plan.

Problem is, everybody in the NFL is fast. In college you build for speed so you can put 4.4 WR's against 4.8 DB's. In the pros you are putting 4.4 WR's against 4.5 DB's.

Honestly, I would rather have given up both Etienne and that Georgia CB, plus next year's #1, to trade up for Pitts (assuming Atlanta would have agreed, which is no sure thing). It's those guys that win games in the NFL. Speed, size and power combined.

This draft is making it look like Urbs isn't as ready for prime time as he thought he was, or we hoped he was.
He ran a 4.36 at the combine. That's pretty damn fast. It's not about running back, it's about getting a proven playmaker, which he is. The Titans are a bit of an oddity, team built around a running back...
 
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Nowadays in the NFL RBs are a dime a dozen and most teams don’t have featured RBs anymore. Seeing more and more teams use multiple RBs. And there shelf life isn’t that long these days.

And more than anything it wasn’t a position of need for Jacksonville. They had a 1,000 yard rusher last year in rookie James Robinson. The Jags signed Carlos Hyde as well. This pick of Etienne is getting lots of bad grades around the national media. Not so much for where he was taken but completely wrong team.

I feel like it was an Urban pick, you know Urban loves those split back sets where he has a guy like Etienne. Normally i would agree and say its a bad pick but i think its a "fit" pick for Urbans offense.
 
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It does make an average team a real contender it seems in recent years if you have one of those top 5 area QBs. I think the salary cap elevated the importance a lot.
Free agency even more so. It's tough to keep a good team together, so having that one guy that elevates everyone around him can really be a difference maker.
 
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"Dan Mullen is a good friend and a great developer of quarterbacks. And Todd Grantham, um, I coached with him."

Yes, I know Grantham has nothing to do with QB development and the offense, and Ariens probably shouldn't have bothered mentioning him, because he's not relevant to the Trask discussion. But the way he said it just struck me as funny.
 
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"Dan Mullen is a good friend and a great developer of quarterbacks. And Todd Grantham, um, I coached with him."

Yes, I know Grantham has nothing to do with QB development and the offense, and Ariens probably shouldn't have bothered mentioning him, because he's not relevant to the Trask discussion. But the way he said it just struck me as funny.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
 
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