Cowboys Jerry Jones to Players: “Stand For the Anthem or You’re Off the Team”

[Gator Fever]

http://kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/2...s-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/

As the Dallas Cowboys begin training camp, Owner Jerry Jones wants to make one thing very clear to his team before the 2017 NFL season begins.

If any of his players want to take a knee during the National Anthem, don’t expect to see them on the roster for much longer.

Last season, Jones told CBS Radio’s 105.3 The Fan, “I got to give a big pat on the back to our entire team, our coaching staff, our entire organization. We strongly, strongly support the flag in every way we support — and it’s almost ridiculous to be saying it — the people who for generations and generations have given it all up so that we can get out here and show off in front of millions of people on television.”
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I am glad my favorite NFL team is doing this. Now all those crazed lefties from Austin, TX can stay home instead of attending Cowboy games if they think the players should be allowed to tick off most US Flag loving patriotic fans.

This is a business and employees shouldn't be allowed to bring very bad publicity that can hurt your brand if the owner doesn't purposely allow that conduct. Go do your protest away from the stadium while not in uniform or something.

 

[bradleygator]

So sitting for the anthem is below Cowboy standards and is disqualifying conduct, but beating up a woman and threatening to murder her gets you an $11 million contract. Makes sense.

It would be interesting to see how this policy would play out if it was Zeke kneeling.

And I agree that an owner should be able to set conduct standards for their players, including standing for the anthem. The blatant hypocrisy of the Cowboys just amuses me.

 

[oozie7]

Just more proof Kaepernick is being black balled from the league. I actually agree with Jones' point about it being disrespectful, but its hard to play that card when you got players doing hella drugs, beating up girlfriends, getting DUI's, etc. and you'll defend them and keep them on the team. But sitting for the anthem is where you draw the line?

 

[Gator Fever]

So sitting for the anthem is below Cowboy standards and is disqualifying conduct, but beating up a woman and threatening to murder her gets you an $11 million contract. Makes sense.

It would be interesting to see how this policy would play out if it was Zeke kneeling.

And I agree that an owner should be able to set conduct standards for their players, including standing for the anthem. The blatant hypocrisy of the Cowboys just amuses me.

You could use the same argument for DUI and businesses. I know very few business owners that will kick a guy out for getting a DUI unless his job is company vehicle driving dependent and he can't get the charge reduced. Stuff like this actually can cost the owner money etc.

 

[bradleygator]

You could use the same argument for DUI and businesses. I know very few business owners that will kick a guy out for getting a DUI unless his job is company vehicle driving dependent and he can't get the charge reduced. Stuff like this actually can cost the owner money etc.

DUI is a little different than what Hardy did. Of course it's all about what hurts marketability. The Cowboys just crack me up with their selective standards. They cut a fourth string receiver in 15 minutes without even waiting to find out that he was falsely accused. Meantime Zeke is acting a fool all over the city with complete impunity.

 

[oozie7]

DUI is a little different than what Hardy did. Of course it's all about what hurts marketability. The Cowboys just crack me up with their selective standards. They cut a fourth string receiver in 15 minutes without even waiting to find out that he was falsely accused. Meantime Zeke is acting a fool all over the city with complete impunity.

Zeke can play, the other dude can't. Everybody on the outside knows their standards depend on how good you are, they might as well be real with themselves and admit that. Trying to pretend they actually have standards beyond that is just insulting.

 

[IrishPokerDog]

.... you got players doing hella drugs, ..... girlfriends, getting DUI's, etc. ...

Sounds very American to me .... except the beating of the GFs

 

[GatorTheo]

Just more proof Kaepernick is being black balled from the league. I actually agree with Jones' point about it being disrespectful, but its hard to play that card when you got players doing hella drugs, beating up girlfriends, getting DUI's, etc. and you'll defend them and keep them on the team. But sitting for the anthem is where you draw the line?

The kneeling is done while wearing the uniform and representing the team, city and league. It is a direct insult to Americans.

Jones and the owners don't care about the patriotism part....they care about their cash cow looking bad.

 

[oozie7]

The kneeling is done while wearing the uniform and representing the team, city and league. It is a direct insult to Americans.

Jones and the owners don't care about the patriotism part....they care about their cash cow looking bad.

I get that and like I said I agree it's disrespectful and they have the right to do what they want ultimately. But having woman beaters and all types of mentally effed up players on their teams make them look bad too, they don't seem to care about that though. Especially if they can play. They should just be real and admit that's where they draw the line and stop putting on a show.

 

[Michi-Gator]

DUI is a little different than what Hardy did. Of course it's all about what hurts marketability. The Cowboys just crack me up with their selective standards. They cut a fourth string receiver in 15 minutes without even waiting to find out that he was falsely accused. Meantime Zeke is acting a fool all over the city with complete impunity.

The talent double standard is every where in professional and collegiate sports. Happens at UF too. This is nothing new

 

[bradleygator]

The talent double standard is every where in professional and collegiate sports. Happens at UF too. This is nothing new

Right. I just think it's funny that the cowboys, of all teams, try to pretend to take moral stands.

 

[Gator Fever]

This would be a real crazy situation if you had someone like Prescott trying to act like that 49ers QB because of the status of Prescott now and where the Cowboys are located etc. I don't think Prescott would be the type to ever do something crazy like that but I think Jones would suspend him until he quit the mess and at least stood there for the anthem. It may have to be a paid suspension due to that not being covered in collective bargaining but I still think he would probably do it.

 

[bradleygator]

This would be a real crazy situation if you had someone like Prescott trying to act like that 49ers QB because of the status of Prescott now and where the Cowboys are located etc. I don't think Prescott would be the type to ever do something crazy like that but I think Jones would suspend him until he quit the mess and at least stood there for the anthem. It may have to be a paid suspension due to that not being covered in collective bargaining but I still think he would probably do it.

What in Jerry Jones' history suggests he would ever take a hard line on a talented player's behavior? My guess would be, if Dak were to kneel, you'd get Jerruh in front of the cameras saying something along the lines of: "I've talked to Dak, and he is a first-class individual, first-class. And he has the utmost respect for our troops. And he is not kneeling for those reasons and so he will continue to be our starting quarterback."

 

[Gator Fever]

What in Jerry Jones' history suggests he would ever take a hard line on a talented player's behavior? My guess would be, if Dak were to kneel, you'd get Jerruh in front of the cameras saying something along the lines of: "I've talked to Dak, and he is a first-class individual, first-class. And he has the utmost respect for our troops. And he is not kneeling for those reasons and so he will continue to be our starting quarterback."

I doubt it on this flag issue.

We will probably see Jones even acting like this wasn't an issue in reality when he gets questioned about it but let someone actually start doing something and see what probably happens.

 

[SwampMaster]

Ratings and attendance come to mind. Texas isn't the place for that. New York/California maybe or any blue state for that matter. Kap made a choice and right or wrong, he's paying for that choice. Sadly, it made very little difference other than his market value.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Just more proof Kaepernick is being black balled from the league. I actually agree with Jones' point about it being disrespectful, but its hard to play that card when you got players doing hella drugs, beating up girlfriends, getting DUI's, etc. and you'll defend them and keep them on the team. But sitting for the anthem is where you draw the line?

Like others have said, the issue is does it cost the owner money? ESPN ran a poll that *seemed* to suggest that the kneeling DID cost the NFL some viewers. Hence money.

From a moral standpoint, some of the things you mention are much worse than kneeling during the NA. But playing those guys that commit those crimes does not seem to cause consternation with viewers. I would imagine that has a lot to do with the demographic of people that like football. That same demographic might get offended by Colin.

As for me? I don't GAF if people sit or stand. I stand when I am in the stadium. I sit when I am at home. No big deal.

 

[oozie7]

Like others have said, the issue is does it cost the owner money? ESPN ran a poll that *seemed* to suggest that the kneeling DID cost the NFL some viewers. Hence money.

From a moral standpoint, some of the things you mention are much worse than kneeling during the NA. But playing those guys that commit those crimes does not seem to cause consternation with viewers. I would imagine that has a lot to do with the demographic of people that like football. That same demographic might get offended by Colin.

As for me? I don't GAF if people sit or stand. I stand when I am in the stadium. I sit when I am at home. No big deal.

All fair points.

 

[Dannygator1989]

Like others have said, the issue is does it cost the owner money? ESPN ran a poll that *seemed* to suggest that the kneeling DID cost the NFL some viewers. Hence money.

From a moral standpoint, some of the things you mention are much worse than kneeling during the NA. But playing those guys that commit those crimes does not seem to cause consternation with viewers. I would imagine that has a lot to do with the demographic of people that like football. That same demographic might get offended by Colin.

As for me? I don't GAF if people sit or stand. I stand when I am in the stadium. I sit when I am at home. No big deal.

I always stand.

Can't pace back and forth and grumble and yell and curse and potentially clear a table of it's possessions if I'm just casually sitting down.

Tennessee game comes to mind last year.

I flipped a table at the bar in the second half (after I was supposed to be setting an example to a 19 year old).

 

[46885]

I was emotionless during the 2nd half because for one I was sober, and I saw it all coming after our first few possessions and getting stuffed on 3rd and short by a bum defense and their first score and we kept doing the same thing... I saw the whole thing coming before the other 3 TDs...

 

[PacoGator19]

Zeke can play, the other dude can't. Everybody on the outside knows their standards depend on how good you are, they might as well be real with themselves and admit that. Trying to pretend they actually have standards beyond that is just insulting.

yep, they shouldn't pretend that they actually have morals (although I agree with the National
Anthem position)

 

[fsu939913]

If anyone kneels they should tarred and feathered in an open forum and then get stoned to death. Either that or leave

So sitting for the anthem is below Cowboy standards and is disqualifying conduct, but beating up a woman and threatening to murder her gets you an $11 million contract. Makes sense.

It would be interesting to see how this policy would play out if it was Zeke kneeling.

And I agree that an owner should be able to set conduct standards for their players, including standing for the anthem. The blatant hypocrisy of the Cowboys just amuses me.

One is breaking the law the other is disrespecting ur country and fans. I get what ur saying but its an apples to oranges comparison

It would be like if a qb hiked the ball and jus tossed it to a defensive player to piss off a coach ir teammate. That would get u kicked.

 

[fsu939913]

Just more proof Kaepernick is being black balled from the league. I actually agree with Jones' point about it being disrespectful, but its hard to play that card when you got players doing hella drugs, beating up girlfriends, getting DUI's, etc. and you'll defend them and keep them on the team. But sitting for the anthem is where you draw the line?

Its completely different. I get what ur saying but its just not the same.

 

[fsu939913]

Like others have said, the issue is does it cost the owner money? ESPN ran a poll that *seemed* to suggest that the kneeling DID cost the NFL some viewers. Hence money.

From a moral standpoint, some of the things you mention are much worse than kneeling during the NA. But playing those guys that commit those crimes does not seem to cause consternation with viewers. I would imagine that has a lot to do with the demographic of people that like football. That same demographic might get offended by Colin.

As for me? I don't GAF if people sit or stand. I stand when I am in the stadium. I sit when I am at home. No big deal.

It was the biggest turn off of the nfl last yr. I stopped watchijg becuz every dammm sunday i got an update whether kap took a knee and whether or not i personally wanted to slap the he11 out if him again. Leave politics and cry babies out of football

 

[kb851]

Anyone can stand or sit or whatever they want.

Any business owner, not piblically owned, can have his own standards.

But...

That dies not make them immune from criticism. Yes, Kaepernicks stand has the mouth breathers upset. They want and should be able to wave their rebel flags, and they should, but YOU should not be able to make your protest.

America.

 

[Gator Fever]

Anyone can stand or sit or whatever they want.

Any business owner, not piblically owned, can have his own standards.

But...

That dies not make them immune from criticism. Yes, Kaepernicks stand has the mouth breathers upset. They want and should be able to wave their rebel flags, and they should, but YOU should not be able to make your protest.

America.

lol Yep he can stand or sit as he wants onto the unemployment line. Heck if a player insisted on waving a rebel flag during the anthem the owner should tell him to take a hike also bringing negative publicity like that to his product.

 

[SwampMaster]

Anyone can stand or sit or whatever they want.

Any business owner, not piblically owned, can have his own standards.

But...

That dies not make them immune from criticism. Yes, Kaepernicks stand has the mouth breathers upset. They want and should be able to wave their rebel flags, and they should, but YOU should not be able to make your protest.

America.

Right, because everyone who disagrees with Kap is an ignorant racist....Jack Ass.

 

[PacoGator19]

Kapernick isn't being blackballed the NFL just for his "kneeling". Other players "kneeled" as well and they are still on NFL rosters. It goes much deeper than that.

 

[Gator Fever]

Kapernick isn't being blackballed the NFL just for his "kneeling". Other players "kneeled" as well and they are still on NFL rosters. It goes much deeper than that.

Didn't he start this mess? I wish some players would do it on a team in a more conservative city so a fan boycott might actually take off. I might be missing some but it seemed most of them were on teams like Seattle and Miami etc. where they knew the communities wouldn't get as mad about it.

 

[bradleygator]

America.

It's pretty emblematic of what America is about. You have the freedom to do and say what you want, but dollars and cents are going to be the bottom line. If owners thought Kaep was good enough to put them in the playoffs and offset losses from upset sponsors, etc..., then he'd have a job.

Part of real protest is sacrifice. Kaep should have been ready to sacrifice his paycheck to protest the freakin' national anthem in a sport with broad redneck support.

That engineer at Google just lost his job for trying to raise some legitimate questions about gender differences in his industry. I bet a lot of the people who think Kaep should never play again think the Google guy got a raw deal and vice versa.

 

[Gator Fever]

It's pretty emblematic of what America is about. You have the freedom to do and say what you want, but dollars and cents are going to be the bottom line. If owners thought Kaep was good enough to put them in the playoffs and offset losses from upset sponsors, etc..., then he'd have a job.

Part of real protest is sacrifice. Kaep should have been ready to sacrifice his paycheck to protest the freakin' national anthem in a sport with broad redneck support.

That engineer at Google just lost his job for trying to raise some legitimate questions about gender differences in his industry. I bet a lot of the people who think Kaep should never play again think the Google guy got a raw deal and vice versa.

The difference is one side generally more than the other is willing to sacrifice dollars and cents to push certain things as far as the big companies go anyway.

 

[oozie7]

Kapernick isn't being blackballed the NFL just for his "kneeling". Other players "kneeled" as well and they are still on NFL rosters. It goes much deeper than that.

What other explanation is there? The recent episode in Baltimore had reports that the both the coach and GM wanted to sign him and got vetoed by their owner. It was suspected that it had a lot to do with Baltimore's close proximity to DC and that whole area where the military is prominent.

Much worse QB's than him have and continue to get jobs. Kaep isn't a superstar by any means but just like Tebow you can't tell me he can't even so much as get a backup job in the league a year removed from 16 TD's to 4 INT's and a few years removed from leading a team to the Super Bowl. Those teams have every right to do not give him a job, especially if they feel his presence on the team offends their fanbase, but lets call a spade a spade. The whole thing rings hollow though when a guy taking a knee is the final straw considering the type of players they let on their teams. Just like when Tebow praying was suddenly a problem. The league is full of dumb hypocrites.

 

[bradleygator]

The difference is one side generally more than the other is willing to sacrifice dollars and cents to push certain things as far as the big companies go anyway.

Which side, do you think? Serious question. Democrats? Because of regulation of big business and such? That's true, but I'm talking more about the differing views on the subject of free speech, which both sides claim to support. Conservatives are always yelling about liberty and renaming french fries "freedom" fries and such. Democrats think of themselves as classical "liberals" and champions of free speech. But really, both sides are largely intolerant of thoughts different than their own.

 

[SwampMaster]

I think that's a fair statement. There were others kneeling, but they didn't get the publicity Kap got. So, now he gets the Tebow treatment. I don't think you can blamethat one on "Rednecks" though.

 

[SwampMaster]

Which side, do you think? Serious question. Democrats? Because of regulation of big business and such? That's true, but I'm talking more about the differing views on the subject of free speech, which both sides claim to support. Conservatives are always yelling about liberty and renaming french fries "freedom" fries and such. Democrats think of themselves as classical "liberals" and champions of free speech. But really, both sides are largely intolerant of thoughts different than their own.

That's right. Politicians, whether Democrat or Republican are only out for themselves. It's all a bunch of rich phuckers making sure they get theirs. People are being bought with their own money.

 

[Gator Fever]

Which side, do you think? Serious question. Democrats? Because of regulation of big business and such? That's true, but I'm talking more about the differing views on the subject of free speech, which both sides claim to support. Conservatives are always yelling about liberty and renaming french fries "freedom" fries and such. Democrats think of themselves as classical "liberals" and champions of free speech. But really, both sides are largely intolerant of thoughts different than their own.

The big companies like ABC (ESPN) and Target etc. I would say a libertarian is way closer to what a liberal was originally than what is referred to as a liberal now. Liberals now are the biggest ones against free speech in reality probably.

 

[fsu939913]

Anyone can stand or sit or whatever they want.

Any business owner, not piblically owned, can have his own standards.

But...

That dies not make them immune from criticism. Yes, Kaepernicks stand has the mouth breathers upset. They want and should be able to wave their rebel flags, and they should, but YOU should not be able to make your protest.

America.

Colin has a platform on social media to do all this. He shouldnt be doing it at a game. Its a respect thing. Anyone who has any vet in their family or worse, someone who has a family member who paid the ultimate price. If they see kap sitting because in his fantasy world their is so much social injustice, that pisses the majority off. That was the number 1 answer to the question of why the nfl lost viewers per their survey. Its stupid to do it in a game, its disrespectful. He could use his name and recognition on social media but doing it in a game and during the national anthem is just disrespectful and honestly if i was his teammate i would have whooped his a$$ during the national anthem if he didnt stand. Its shameful that people stood up for him. Im glad the owners are shaming him

 

[IrishPokerDog]

Kapernick isn't being blackballed the NFL just for his "kneeling". Other players "kneeled" as well and they are still on NFL rosters. It goes much deeper than that.

Yep.... but I'll add that if someone wants to be a "lightning rod" for political activism, they shouldn't be surprised when lightning strikes

 

[fsu939913]

Yep.... but I'll add that if someone wants to be a "lightning rod" for political activism, they shouldn't be surprised when lightning strikes

He doesnt have to do it at a game. He was the ring leader so he is the one that gets the backlash. I couldnt name another player that did it. I know they did but cant remember them. Kap took it to another lvl wearing the socks that has police officers as pigs and all that. Ray Rice cant play, kap cant play. Justice is being served for once

 

[PacoGator19]

What other explanation is there? The recent episode in Baltimore had reports that the both the coach and GM wanted to sign him and got vetoed by their owner. It was suspected that it had a lot to do with Baltimore's close proximity to DC and that whole area where the military is prominent.

Much worse QB's than him have and continue to get jobs. Kaep isn't a superstar by any means but just like Tebow you can't tell me he can't even so much as get a backup job in the league a year removed from 16 TD's to 4 INT's and a few years removed from leading a team to the Super Bowl. Those teams have every right to do not give him a job, especially if they feel his presence on the team offends their fanbase, but lets call a spade a spade. The whole thing rings hollow though when a guy taking a knee is the final straw considering the type of players they let on their teams. Just like when Tebow praying was suddenly a problem. The league is full of dumb hypocrites.

Ummm do you remember the Fidel Castro shirt he wore and what about the "Cop Pig" socks??

Again other players kneeled and they are still employed. He is not. Plain and simple. Life isn't only fair. He made a decision to do what he did. NFL GMs have made a decision not to sign him.

 

[oozie7]

Ummm do you remember the Fidel Castro shirt he wore and what about the "Cop Pig" socks??

Again other players kneeled and they are still employed. He is not. Plain and simple. Life isn't only fair. He made a decision to do what he did. NFL GMs have made a decision not to sign him.

Well nobody is arguing if it's 'fair' or not fair, I've said over and over they have a right to not sign him. But acting like there's any other reason they're not signing him is bullshit. The comparison to other players doesn't make any sense either because they aren't QB's. Rightly or wrongly QB's are seen as the face of a franchise so there's more scrutiny. Nobody cares if a safety kneels. Proof for that point is the fact that Kaep's teammates voted him some trophy or something like that for what he did and multiple of them joined him yet the narrative is he's a distraction to his teammates, go figure. People only care about the QB.