Coronavirus Vaccine

[gator1776]

On pace to be ready by the end of November just as we were told.

Knowing how H1N1 was handled by Biden and the established politicians in 2009 a vaccine this fast, under a year, would never have happened under anybody else in this day and age except somebody like Donald Trump.

And at least half of America is clueless about it. That’s what it means when you have 95% negative media coverage. It’s a constant 4 year disinformation campaign against one person and this is what it leads to.

Donald Trump’s government did an amazing job fighting coronavirus. Damn shame he ended up being a casualty of it at the same time. Heroic effort.

You’re welcome America.

 

[BSC911]

If only it had come a week earlier. Tough break for Trump.

 

[gator1776]

If only it had come a week earlier. Tough break for Trump.

Oh we knew about it, they just sat on the results for a few weeks.

Fascinating to me that somebody like you would respond that way though. I think you in the media reveled in the fact that 200,000 Americans died because it gave you something finally you could use against Trump Other than just his narcissistic personality disorder.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I am not taking it until a huge data sample is available. What will the death rate be? What other side effects? How effective will it be.

 

[BSC911]

Oh we knew about it, they just said on the results for a few weeks.

Fascinating to me that somebody like you would respond that way though. I think you in the media reveled in the fact that 200,000 Americans died because it gave you something finally you could use against Trump Other than just his narcissistic personality disorder.

No, I haven’t reveled in it at all. Had a relative die from it and my 85 year old uncle is in the hospital with it.

This horrible pandemic was not Trumps fault. The way he lied to us about it is his fault. But that’s history. I’ve moved on. Glad the vaccine will Be available soon. I’m ready to travel.

 

[gator1776]

I am not taking it until a huge data sample is available. What will the death rate be? What other side effects? How effective will it be.

Preliminary report is remarkably effective. 90% effective in preventing infection. That’s almost unheard of in a first run of a vaccine. Remarkably safe to according to the data. I bet all the Democrats take it

 

[fsumc]

Oh we knew about it, they just said on the results for a few weeks.

Fascinating to me that somebody like you would respond that way though. I think you in the media reveled in the fact that 200,000 Americans died because it gave you something finally you could use against Trump Other than just his narcissistic personality disorder.

Dude is a total dolt. No argumentative skills whatsoever. It’s like talking to a toddler.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

No, I haven’t reveled in it at all. Had a relative die from in and my 85 year old uncle is in the hospital with it.

This horrible pandemic was not Trumps fault. The way he lied to us about it is his fault. But that’s history. I’ve moved on. Glad the vaccine will Be available soon. I’m ready to travel.

What he MAY have said to offer hope had no impact on the deaths. He also told people to follow CDC guidelines on several occasions. And when he was not wearing a mask he was usually 20+ ft away from others which was within guidelines. He followed Fauci and Birx recommendations. He also ramped up private sector production of test kits and vents. Those deaths happen regardless of Trump.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Preliminary report is remarkably effective. 90% effective in preventing infection. That’s almost unheard of in a first run of a vaccine. Remarkably safe to according to the data. I bet all the Democrats take it

sounds good but I will pull an Obama and lead from behind

 

[BSC911]

Dude is a total dolt. No argumentative skills whatsoever. It’s like talking to a toddler.

Argumentive skills? This coming from people whose big dig is working at McDonalds? Or bragging about some test they took 50 years ago to try to convince people they are smart, That’s hilarious.

This is a message boy dude. Nobody has argumentative skills.

 

[BSC911]

What he MAY have said to offer hope had no impact on the deaths. He also told people to follow CDC guidelines on several occasions. And when he was not wearing a mask he was usually 20+ ft away from others which was within guidelines. He followed Fauci and Birx recommendations. He also ramped up private sector production of test kits and vents. Those deaths happen regardless of Trump.

Sorry, he undercut Fauci and Brie at every turn. Making fun of people that wore masks. Always pushing to open things up. There are many pictures of him walking around plants with no mask. (Will gladly post if needEd). Most of his staff weren’t wearing masks, which is why they’ve all caught it. The only reason he didn’t fire Fauci is because he was more popular than Trump.

There is no way you can say he supported the CDC guidelines with a straight face.

PS. I told myself no more Trump talk. He lost. It’s over. Quit trying to drag me back in.

 

[goldmom]

If only it had come a week earlier. Tough break for Trump.

There are many things I think about the virus, and about Donald Trump.
But "tough break for Trump" isn't among the top 5.
If this vaccine is effective, I tend to think "GREAT BREAK FOR THE WORLD".

You're an ass, plain and simple.

 

[BSC911]

There are many things I think about the virus, and about Donald Trump.
But "tough break for Trump" isn't among the top 5.
If this vaccine is effective, I tend to think "GREAT BREAK FOR THE WORLD".

You're an ass, plain and simple.

I think the same. Great for the world. But having a vaccine to brag about (you know he will take full credit) certainly may have helped his chances. It WAS a tough break for him.

And I love it when you call me dirty names, sweetcakes.

 

[goldmom]

I'm also very glad that this vaccine - if effective as advertised - was NOT made in China.
One of the huge issues this pandemic brought attention to is that we have allowed 90%+ of our prescription drugs to be moved off shore. To China. This we now know is dangerous and will hopefully continue to be in reversal.

 

[jfegaly]

Dude is a total dolt. No argumentative skills whatsoever. It’s like talking to a toddler.

^^^^this.

 

[goldmom]

I think the same. Great for the world. But having a vaccine to brag about (you know he will take full credit) certainly may have helped his chances. It was a tough break for him.

And I love it when you call me dirty names, sweetcakes.

If you and others trash him for his "failed leadership" as 100% the cause of the spread of COVID, then logically why would he not get credit for orchestrating a rapid development of a vaccine?

 

[BSC911]

If you and others trash him for his "failed leadership" as 100% the cause of the spread of COVID, then logically why would he not get credit for orchestrating a rapid development of a vaccine?

He didn’t really oversee anything. Remember his big push for HCQ. Most would give the credit where it’s due, the scientists at Pfizer. But we all know that’s not Trumps MO.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Sorry, he undercut Fauci and Brie at every turn. Making fun of people that wore masks. Always pushing to open things up. There are many pictures of him walking around plants with no mask. (Will gladly post if needEd). Most of his staff weren’t wearing masks, which is why they’ve all caught it. The only reason he didn’t fire Fauci is because he was more popular than Trump.

There is no way you can say he supported the CDC guidelines with a straight face.

PS. I told myself no more Trump talk. He lost. It’s over. Quit trying to drag me back in.

LOL you are just wrong. Fauci himself and I watched it myself said Trump was following his recommendations and Trump on multiple occasions said to follow CDC. Any break with Fauci came much later in the pandemic around the time he brought Stanford MD Atlas into the team. Most of the deaths had already occurred. Did Trump catch covid when inside a huge manufacturing plant where social distancing could be followed with those outside his bubble ? Nope he caught it within that bubble when someone passed protocol (daily testing) who actually had it.

So do you wear a mask inside your house around your family( bubble)? If you do you are the exception to the rule. Trumps bubble is tested daily. You are not testing your family daily and anyone could bring that into your house and give it to you before you know they have it.

BTW I am in quarantine until the 28th and I wear a mask every time I go out. My adult daughter has covid and brought it to the house with lax social distancing at a Halloween get together with her old HS friends. We know exactly who gave it to her and when, how and why. No masks sitting in a small room for hours. Even with masks you can not sit in a small room for hrs with someone who has it. Eventually the air fills up with virus.

'It's time to bring out the big guns' against COVID-19 * WorldNetDaily * by Around the Web

We’re battling a 21st century pandemic, mainly using measures that are the equivalent of pistols. Meanwhile, the rocket launchers and cruise missiles that emerging evidence suggests could be used in this war sit largely idle.

www.wnd.com

TDS is a b*tch but I overcame it about 4-6 months into 2017 so it can be beaten. One must first acknowledge they have it to overcome the addiction. Now one thing that helped me was that I was never around the enablers of NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN, and MSNBC.

 

[gator1776]

There are many things I think about the virus, and about Donald Trump.
But "tough break for Trump" isn't among the top 5.
If this vaccine is effective, I tend to think "GREAT BREAK FOR THE WORLD".

You're an ass, plain and simple.

'THEY" will never give Trump an ounce of credit for anything. More proof they are not using rational thought, just pure visceral emotion.

Shame to be ruled by emotions instead of reason.

As a doctor that has to take care of the worse of these patients I thank Donald Trump for giving me the tools to fight and now prevent COVID. He has done an amazing service to this nation and the world fighting the China Virus while the MSM and his own nation tore him down in the process.

 

[nail1988]

Project Warp Speed! Well done Pfizer-Biontech and well done Mr. President! This is what will save lives, not Biden’s empty talk. This is called SCIENCE Biden, Democrats, and media! And President Trump should tout it all day long! Plus, the other day unemployment dropped big to 6.9%. The president should tout that too. That’s called CAPITALISM.
The companies said an early analysis of results showed the vaccine to be more than 90% effective, beating expectations.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

He didn’t really oversee anything. Remember his big push for HCQ. Most would give the credit where it’s due, the scientists at Pfizer. But we all know that’s not Trumps MO.

He waved the regulations allowing this to be fast tracked otherwise you take 4+ years to get this vaccine.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Project Warp Speed! Well done Pfizer-Biontech and well done Mr. President! This is what will save lives, not Biden’s empty talk. This is called SCIENCE Biden, Democrats, and media! And President Trump should tout it all day long! Plus, the other day unemployment dropped big to 6.9%. The president should tout that too. That’s called CAPITALISM.
The companies said an early analysis of results showed the vaccine to be more than 90% effective, beating expectations.

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good to see you back posting and your finger was faster than mine

 

[gator1776]

I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH what the US has done under Trump. TO HAVE A 90% EFFECTIVE VACCINE IN UNDER A YEAR IS SIMPLY UNHEARD OF. It is literally a miracle. The average for a 90% effective vaccine in such cases is 3-10 years. And an RNA vaccine this effective, again, UNHEARD OF.

This is an achievement on the level of the Manhattan Project........................only more impressive to be honest.

THEY WOULD BE GIVEN NOBEL PRIZES AND BUILDING STATUES IF IT WERE OBAMA, but it would never have been possible under Obama and his government regulations.

THIS WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY, EVENTUALLY, AS A CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

 

[gator1776]

Literally we are hearing about something on the level of A WONDER OF THE MODERN WORLD...........................and no one will notice it in our times. Funny, bet no one really noticed lots of such achievements in their actual time.

 

[BSC911]

He waved the regulations allowing this to be fast tracked otherwise you take 4+ years to get this vaccine.

As he should. Kudos. I’m pretty sure anyone would do the same, but yes, good job Donald.

 

[BSC911]

I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH what the US has done under Trump. TO HAVE A 90% EFFECTIVE VACCINE IN UNDER A YEAR IS SIMPLY UNHEARD OF. It is literally a miracle. The average for a 90% effective vaccine in such cases is 3-10 years. And an RNA vaccine this effective, again, UNHEARD OF.

This is an achievement on the level of the Manhattan Project........................only more impressive to be honest.

THEY WOULD BE GIVEN NOBEL PRIZES AND BUILDING STATUES IF IT WERE OBAMA, but it would never have been possible under Obama and his government regulations.

THIS WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY, EVENTUALLY, AS A CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

Except it was done in the private sector.

ALL HAIL CAPITALISM

 

[gator1776]

Except it was done in the private.

ALL HAIL CAPITALISM

Nothing you say or do today can get me down. This vaccine, produced in under a year, through the combine efforts of the private sector in the United States government will save thousands upon thousands upon thousands of lives through the years. Possibly millions of lives through the years. And that’s all that matters to me as a doctor. So I think everybody involved in this and the leader ship that lead to it.

So go enjoy your cheap little moment. Because what Trump and his team accomplished is some thing that Biden will never accomplish in his short term as president.

 

[BSC911]

LOL you are just wrong. Fauci himself and I watched it myself said Trump was following his recommendations and Trump on multiple occasions said to follow CDC. Any break with Fauci came much later in the pandemic around the time he brought Stanford MD Atlas into the team. Most of the deaths had already occurred. Did Trump catch covid when inside a huge manufacturing plant where social distancing could be followed with those outside his bubble ? Nope he caught it within that bubble when someone passed protocol (daily testing) who actually had it.

So do you wear a mask inside your house around your family( bubble)? If you do you are the exception to the rule. Trumps bubble is tested daily. You are not testing your family daily and anyone could bring that into your house and give it to you before you know they have it.

BTW I am in quarantine until the 28th and I wear a mask every time I go out. My adult daughter has covid and brought it to the house with lax social distancing at a Halloween get together with her old HS friends. We know exactly who gave it to her and when, how and why. No masks sitting in a small room for hours. Even with masks you can not sit in a small room for hrs with someone who has it. Eventually the air fills up with virus.

'It's time to bring out the big guns' against COVID-19 * WorldNetDaily * by Around the Web

We’re battling a 21st century pandemic, mainly using measures that are the equivalent of pistols. Meanwhile, the rocket launchers and cruise missiles that emerging evidence suggests could be used in this war sit largely idle.

www.wnd.com

TDS is a b*tch but I overcame it about 4-6 months into 2017 so it can be beaten. One must first acknowledge they have it to overcome the addiction. Now one thing that helped me was that I was never around the enablers of NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN, and MSNBC.

Kudos. You seem to be one who hasn’t downplayed it like some of the others on here.

I don’t need to watch those outlets. I’ve heard and seen Trump with my own eyes and ears. I watched his daily briefings until he screwed up with the “inject bleach” nonsense. But it may help you to watch the more liberal MSM from time to time as it seems you only get a one sided view of the world. I’m not saying only watch them, but when all you watch is Trump propaganda, then you aren’t getting a full picture.

Or not. I don’t really care since he’s now in my rear view mirror.

 

[gator1776]

As he should. Kudos. I’m pretty sure anyone would do the same, but yes, good job Donald.

You’re an absolute fool if you believe anybody would’ve done the same. This would’ve taken a minimum of 2 to 3 years under Biden or Obama. But you go live in your world, As Monty python used to say, how sweet it is to be an idiot

 

[BSC911]

Nothing you say or do today I can get me down. This vaccine, produced in under a year, through the combine efforts of the private sector in the United States government will save thousands upon thousands upon thousands of lives through the years. Possibly millions of lives through the years. And that’s all that matters to me as a doctor. So I think everybody involved in this and the leader ship that lead to it.

So go enjoy your cheap little moment. Because what Trump and his team accomplished is some thing that Biden will never accomplish in his short term as president.

Me too. I’m just giving credit where credit is due.

If you want to give Trump all the credit, fine with me. Just don’t try to BS me.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

I am not taking it until a huge data sample is available. What will the death rate be? What other side effects? How effective will it be.

I'm not taking it, period, but I understand the need for some people.

 

[gator1776]

There are many things I think about the virus, and about Donald Trump.
But "tough break for Trump" isn't among the top 5.
If this vaccine is effective, I tend to think "GREAT BREAK FOR THE WORLD".

You're an ass, plain and simple.

Yeah even thinking that way shows that they never really cared about the people that got coronavirus y'all only cared because it gave them a club they could use to beat against the president over and over again.

Honestly pretty ****ing pathetic. If you cannot enjoy this news and what it means for this nation and the world then you’re a ****ing loser. And if you notice I don’t use those phrases that often which shows you how much I really mean it. If you were in front of me right now I would turn my back and walk away because you’re a piece of shit for thinking that way @BSC911

 

[gator1776]

I'm not taking it, period, but I understand the need for some people.

Curious, why not? Are you an anti-VAccer?

 

[BSC911]

I'm not taking it, period, but I understand the need for some people.

Me neither. I’ve never taken a flu shot. It’s more important for high risk people.

 

[goldmom]

You’re an absolute fool if you believe anybody would’ve done the same. This would’ve taken a minimum of 2 to 3 years under Biden or Obama. But you go live in your world, As Monty python used to say, how sweet it is to be an idiot

Yes, it would have taken that long for the elites to work their deals so they'd profit from the development of the vaccine. While they were doing that there would be "blue ribbon task forces" WHOOPS they just did.
I hope this task force "formed by the President-elect" today is never needed and rendered moot. For all our sakes.

 

[gator1776]

Yes, it would have taken that long for the elites to work their deals so they'd profit from the development of the vaccine. While they were doing that there would be "blue ribbon task forces" WHOOPS they just did.
I hope this task force "formed by the President-elect" today is never needed and rendered moot. For all our sakes.

I hope the rollout of the vaccine is handled by the current presidency before the change. For all of our sakes.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Curious, why not? Are you an anti-VAccer?

Just a personal choice. I have children who've done well with vaccines and I have one who was hurt by vaccines. I see the benefits for some (probably most) but I also see/know the dangers for some... and Congress has protected Big Pharma from responsibility. The vaccine schedule for children nowadays is horrible. It should be spread out more.
I had to get flu shots for my employment in Iraq. I had no choice. I got the worst flu I've ever had over there... had to have medicated IVs and be quarantined. No bueno for me.

 

[gator1776]

Just a personal choice. I have children who've done well with vaccines and I have one who was hurt by vaccines. I see the benefits for some (probably most) but I also see/know the dangers for some... and Congress has protected Big Pharma from responsibility. The vaccine schedule for children nowadays is horrible. It should be spread out more.
I had to get flu shots for my employment in Iraq. I had no choice. I got the worst flu I've ever had over there... had to have medicated IVs and be quarantined. No bueno for me.

Fair and reasonable argument. I’m glad you see the benefit in addition to the potential risk. The current vaccine schedule is horribly difficult on kids off ranch of that. But, as you alluded to, we don’t lose half our kids to infections while they’re still children anymore too. Like all technology good and bad.

 

[jfegaly]

Not an anti vaxxer but not a big believer in flu vaccines. For things like polio etc? Yep, but I haven’t had a flu shot since 2001 and haven’t had the flu in those 19 years. Wife and kids get flu shot every year, and get the flu like clockwork every year

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Not an anti vaxxer but not a big believer in flu vaccines. For things like polio etc? Yep, but I haven’t had a flu shot since 2001 and haven’t had the flu in those 19 years. Wife and kids get flu shot every year, and get the flu like clockwork every year

Isn't the flu vaccine usually for the last year's strain?