Crazy and you wonder why more and more people don't have respect for the cops they once did even non-lefties. No excuse for that crap and I bet if an armed pedestrian did that they would have a charge already. This guy like that cop that shot and killed the 95 pound mentally unstable lady that came at him with a small pair of scissors is one of the ones that take the job because they have a complex.
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Crazy and you wonder why more and more people don't have respect for the cops they once did even non-lefties. No excuse for that crap and I bet if an armed pedestrian did that they would have a charge already. This guy like that cop that shot and killed the 95 pound mentally unstable lady that came at him with a small pair of scissors is one of the ones that take the job because they have a complex.
Yikes man...but yes, shooting that dog was ridiculous.
You, as a private citizen, probably would not be charged for shooting that dog ftr. As ridiculous as you and I might see it, if you felt like you were in danger and the dog was running loose....
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I think you would have a good chance of being charged if you pulled out your gun and shot that dog especially if the sound was on at the beginning and didn't show any aggressive growling and because he shot it as it was fleeing also. In a lefty area the chances would be even higher I think. Now if a pit bull or Rottweiler etc ran at someone like that even if it didn't seem they were likely to bite you probably have nothing to worry about legally. I like the good cops which most are but I complained about idiots like this even before video started showing how some operated. Part of it was bad training imo some years back where at defensive tactics they would stress with that matrix if someone went to this level the cop could go to this level one step higher but they didn't push using common sense enough so the cops like this guy etc with a complex get it in their head it's alright to do what they did. That cop who shot that mentally ill lady to death because she came at him with some small scissors is another example. With his training and size what the heck is he going to that level for when it's a child sized female that has issues. What would happen to a way less trained security guard in a mental ward if he slammed that lady hard injuring her badly. He would be fired at minimum and possibly charged depending on what it looked like on video. Not sure what the answer is except stressing common sense more in training and the field training officers weeding more people out but they are probably scared of lawsuits over that. Then of course the good cops in many areas have to deal with the left's BS so not as many competent people apply as they did years ago.
No, that wouldn’t be good either.
But that dog was not being aggressive.
That’s freaking insane - and the worst part is discharging your gun in a neighborhood better be life and death. Bullets are hard to control once they leave a gun.
I've been around a lot of golden retrievers, the worst one might do is lick you to death.
I have a MONSTER Rottie...155 lbs and trim. I ALWAYS have him on a leash. My biggest fear is someone will let their dog loose and it comes and attacks my boy. Talking about a good way for things to get WAY out of hand. It has happened a few times...but luckily the dogs that ran at him stopped and thought better. Mine broke a few leashes when I first got him and got away from me. Scared me to death.
It's thinking like that which allows idiot cops like that to give the profession a bad rep. I still remember when your typical Rep would say this crap wasn't happening and all the cops reports were accurate before all these videos started showing otherwise. Haven't read the actual report here yet but I would strongly suspect it makes it sound like the dog came at him like some snarling rapid pit bull he'll bent on injuring him and I also bet it doesn't point out the shots made after the first one happened as the dog was fleeing after he first shot it.
Something happened to me and my family last year involving the police. Let's just say I used to go out of my way to thank them for what they do. Now I want to piss on their leg.
Yep it sucks for the majority good cops but there are quite a few in the wrong profession. When I was growing up until about my early 20s the vast majority seemed level headed and then it started changing after that with quite a few of them. Also the worst ones seem to be the types that don't look out for their fellow cops on lesser infractions. The public likes to praise that in general but those are usually the type of cops doing the crap like this and routinely making questionable illegal stops where the video shows they lied to make the stop. My guess is this guy is someone many of his fellow officers would have said he wouldn't be a top choice to have around in a real dangerous situation.
I have had 5 goldens. My 2 1/2 year old male is my favorite thing in the whole world.
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From someone that knows NOTHING bout dogs....I am laughing at you, son! LOLOL Lay off the movie "Cujo" It was a movie.
The training today is better, more thorough and better funded than it has ever been. Just since 2019 the hours have increased by more than 25% in my state. Minimum of 620 instructive hours now and that doesn't include the extra hours that your specific sponsoring department will require. I'd be willing to bet the same is true in your state...if not more.
I'm unfamiliar with the scissors case you're talking about but my gut is to disagree. I've actually been on a murder scene where a woman murdered her husband with scissors and she was literally half his size. Evilz had a buddy who died similarly and he shared the story here.
A deadly weapon is a deadly weapon is a deadly weapon. Real life isn't like a Hollywood blockbuster.
I'm not getting stabbed, period. I'm going home. I promised my wife and kids that I'm coming home. I'm going to keep that promise.
So, that said, if you come at me with a deadly weapon, regardless of who you are, I'm more than likely going to shoot you, and kill you if my aim is true, rather than get stabbed trying to disarm you. I'm not using a less lethal weapon if you're holding a lethal weapon.
And that is how we're trained in academy.
The worst dog bite I've ever sustained was from a Labrador that "wouldn't hurt anyone." Focusing on the breed is nonsense.
I don't think that he should have shot that dog. I 100% don't think that those dogs should have been running free. I'd definitely suspend and probably fire that cop for shooting the dog...but if the dog had been restrained, as I guarantee you the law reads, this never happens.
The breed has very little to do with aggressiveness imho. How they're raised and their genetics (close relatives having puppies) play a larger role imho.
That said, an out of control Pit or Rottweiler will do a hell of a lot more damage than most other breeds.
They can do damage. No matter how nice you think they are....in an instance bad things can happen. My boy is almost 8, and has settled down quite a bit. He constantly tests me like a child to see who is in charge. I would never want a mean dog. I am more afraid if someone broke in to my house...he would lick them to death.
Yest but we know things will be looked at by the breed of the dog because of the tenacity of certain breeds. I owned plenty of pits when younger but always had them where a kid or someone could literally hit them and they would not get aggressive. Most bad cases are bad owners but I have seen a few cases with them and other breeds where the dog was just a bad seed and should have been put down. Nothing is worse than owners that think it's cool having their dog acting like they want to tear strangers apart. It's a ticking time bomb waiting to happen many times.
3 of my 4 dogs are Chihuahuas.
You come in my house, invited or not, on your own recognizance. I am not responsible for what happens to you.
This infuriates me. I am scared to death that as tame and sweet as my dog is, he will get away from me somehow...or worse...someone loses control of THEIR dog, and because of reputation, my dog gets in trouble. I protect him the best I can.
These are the kind of dog that I fear most...they are not afraid of ANYTHING. And if they came at my dog, I am afraid if they bit him he would defend himself. I do not take him to dog parks because I do not want other dogs to come at him.
If you are a trained cop and think you need to shoot a small mentally ill person coming at you with scissors you have no business being on the force imo. That is where I have my main issue with some shootings as it's situations where a not well trained security person wouldn't even be expected to handle it that way. Those videos where they show you what a Bruce Lee could do in a second with 15 foot between you has led to a lot of this. If I am the instructor I am stressing common sense also and saying why in the hell would any trained male officer think he needs to shoot a little nutty female like that. To me it's no different than thinking you are in mortal danger from that golden retriever.
I have a 2.8lb dog that would launch himself at anything he felt was a threat.
He once tried to commit suicide by German Shepard. Even though the German Shepard had a soft mouth he went into shock and was in doggie ICU for 2 days.
Anyone that thought that dog was coming to attack them has never been around a dog in their lives.
I mean, when you see a golden retriever running to you wagging his tail and your first instinct is to try to protect yourself, you've never been around that or any breed of dog.
I will say this, the people that would have rather yelled at the cops instead of checking on the dog are insane IMO. If that's my dog the cop is gonna have to shoot me for checking on him. And I suspect that DA probably would have.
Read the article and the owner claims the dogs were scared due to fireworks in the neighborhood. Here's the worst part, she claims the cop that shot the dog had come to their house previously and knew the dog. If true, the dog likely recognized the cop and that's why he ran to him.
I appreciate your opinion. My opinion is that you are FOS and that you are speaking on things that you do not understand. But we all get to have an opinion.
But I do hope that you consider that as more people take the opinion that you have above, where a cop has to qualify their right to defend themselves based on the opinions of people who don't actually know what they are talking about, that fewer of the "right types" will do this job.
And why would they? A deadly weapon is deadly and a deadly response is justified if the person being threatened deems it so in a split second decision.
Many people think we should fire warning shots or "wounding shots" and that's absolute garbage as well, obviously.
Now I think I understand.
Yea, no....we aren't Bruce Lee like. Neither was Bruce Lee fwiw.
I've taken many years of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I even know some Israli Krav Maga (the VAST majority have not) but that is mainly for controlling an unarmed subject or reacting in the last moment when the crap has hit the fan and everything else has failed.
Disarming a person with an edged weapon, or any deadly weapon, without using potentially deadly force is extremely dangerous and an unreasonable expectation for the humans who protect and serve your community.
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Agree with both of your posts. ANYONE comes at you with intent to harm or kill deserves a deadly shot from the gun. I would think that would be your responsibility.
No kidding. Good lord. 60,000 assaults on law enforcement officers last year and skippy is referencing Bruce Lee. What the hell?
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