Coincidence?
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Dems have declared war. Let's see what the response is.
GOP talks tough, but rarely follows through in most cases ...
GOP talks tough, but rarely follows through in most cases ...
I think it’s cute you get your news from watching the View. Fraudulent elections have to be overturned or the American people cant have faith in a true and fair election. But the Dems still cant provide one legitimate answer to the fraud that’s been exposed. Keep trolling
What fraud has been exposed?
Republicans haven't won 1 legal case in what 60+ attempts?
There is no exposed fraud and you want "legitimate" answers? 🤣
What fraud has been exposed?
There he goes—lie deny, deflect. Dems havent provided one legitimate answer because they can’t.
You’re the know it all here. I’m not doing the work for you bc you’re too lazy to research it. If you seriously don’t know the fraud that’s been exposed it proves you don’t have a clue what’s going on. Just another Joy Behar puppet.
Good answer!!!
These are the same type of non answers that have the trump crime family up to its eyeballs in grand jury investigations
Do you really believe living in your fanatical denial makes a difference to anyone?
You're like a Tenn fan who swears that the Vols have been beating UF all of these years
🤣
These are the same type of non answers that have the trump crime family up to its eyeballs in grand jury investigations
Do you really believe living in your fanatical denial makes a difference to anyone?
You're like a Tenn fan who swears that the Vols have been beating UF all of these years
🤣
Told you I’m not doing it for you. You don’t want to look it up because you know what you’d find. Youre scared of what’s out there and you dont have an answer for it. So just lie deny, deflect. Again, you can’t provide one legitimate answer for the voting fraud that’s occurred so you just lie, deny, deflect.
No material voting fraud has occurred
Do we have to list all of the GOP audits that have found nothing and all of the failed legal attempts in court?
So you admit that no GOP audit has found any material fraud
And you admit no legal case brought by trump has won in court
Good now take that medication and go to sleep 🤣
And you admit no legal case brought by trump has won in court
Good now take that medication and go to sleep 🤣
Just as you admit you’re too lazy to research the voting fraud. I’ll work on my bourbon while you continue with your witch hunt.
After reading a bevy of your posts, i'm getting the sense you are uninterested in meaningful discourse and are just interested in flogging people with your opinion. You also present your opinion as fact on many an occasion.
These are just observations ...
Want a meaningful discourse?
Please provide the proof of voting fraud
Everyone from the WH lawyers to little ol' me has been asking for the proof.
None has been provided for 2 years
Even Rudy G, one of trump's lawyers admitted "they have no evidence but they have a lot of theories"
Until you provide the evidence, claiming it is nothing but pure fantasy (lying)
And for some people that lying is being investigated for being criminal
Provide the evidence of fraud or you aren't trying to have a meaningful debate
Here's just one example that what your claiming is BS...
What you got?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...dead-people-voted-arizona-2020-election-false
Investigation debunks bogus ‘audit’ claiming 300 dead people voted in Arizona in 2020
New findings disprove audit by Cyber Ninjas, investigating all ‘dead’ individuals: ‘Many were very surprised to learn they were allegedly deceased’
Here's just one example that what your claiming is BS...
What you got?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...dead-people-voted-arizona-2020-election-false
Investigation debunks bogus ‘audit’ claiming 300 dead people voted in Arizona in 2020
New findings disprove audit by Cyber Ninjas, investigating all ‘dead’ individuals: ‘Many were very surprised to learn they were allegedly deceased’
Again, not doing the work for you. The reason you and Dems don’t provide an answer to 100% voting in Nursing homes, 100% voting in counties, mail in vote laws/timelines ignored and broken, changing mail in ballots, all the voting in the 5 key states stopped simultaneously to the second, batches of votes coming in at 100% for Biden in non blue territories, voting machines that were wiped down, voting counts that were online, voting records that were destroyed when supposed to store for years, voted From people who moved out of states years ago, are just a few examples that you know you can’t account for. And I didn’t even mention the 2000 mules scam.
You NEVER answer on these topics because you can’t. You deflect, you laugh it off, you ignore, you do what the media and all Dems do because you know the fraud is so obvious and you can’t answer for it. Its so clear and simple, that it drives all Dems and Tards mad bc they can’t answer those questions.
And this "evidence" has been presented where?
Its all been accounted for since its been thrown out of court, disproved by audit, and heard but rejected in public hearings.
That has occurred under audits run by GOP legislatures and GOP hired companies
GOP & DEM appointed judges have shot down all of those legal challenges including the SCOTUS
For example your first accusation "100% voting in nursing homes"
This claim was made in Wisconsin voting...its been debunked publicy
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/07/u...antiated-claim-of-crooked-nursing-home-votes/
Unraveling Trump’s Unsubstantiated Claim of ‘Crooked’ Nursing Home Votes
By Robert Farley
Posted on July 28, 2022
Former President Donald Trump is making yet another unsubstantiated claim of voter fraud, this time relying on a disputed, partisan report to assert that “thousands and thousands and thousands of crooked votes” came out of nursing homes in Wisconsin.
In a speech in Arizona on July 22, Trump suggested something suspicious was afoot because “almost everybody” in Wisconsin’s nursing homes voted, when “historically only a very small portion” vote. That’s false. There is no evidence of fraud and voting rates in the state’s nursing homes were not out of the ordinary.
The origin of Trump’s claim is an investigative report spearheaded by former Wisconsin State Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who was hired by the Republicans in the state Assembly as a special counsel to look into the state’s 2020 election process. Among other things, the report, released on March 1, claimed that the “Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) unlawfully directed clerks to violate rules protecting nursing home residents, resulting in a 100% voting rate in many nursing homes in 2020, including many ineligible voters.” The bipartisan WEC implemented the rule change, and state officials and a news investigation have disputed the 100% voting rate.
The interim report issued by Gableman argued that that decision “mandated … widespread ‘election fraud'” in the 2020 presidential election. Further, the report alleged the decision led to “absurd” voting participation rates. Gableman’s team vetted voting patterns at nursing facilities in five Wisconsin counties and reported registered voting rates of 100% in Milwaukee, Racine and Dane counties, and 97% and 95% in Kenosha and Brown counties, respectively.
But the report’s findings don’t hold up to scrutiny.
“I would just say that the real evidence and numbers do not support that,” Milwaukee Election Commission Director Claire Woodall-Vogg told us in a phone interview. “We wish all rhetoric about that were based on fact.”
Woodall-Vogg provided us with data that showed 76% of registered voters in nursing homes in Milwaukee County voted in the general election last November. That level of voter participation in nursing facilities is “very normal, nothing alarming,” Woodall-Vogg said.
Woodall-Vogg said that while it is unclear what public data Gableman’s team used, she suspects it failed to account for voters who became inactive after the Nov. 3 election. According to data she provided to FactCheck.org, nearly a third of the registered voters living in nursing homes on Nov. 3 are now inactive. It is likely that many of them have died, she said.
A review of 2020 poll books in Dane County by the Wisconsin State Journal found just one nursing home with 100% turnout (it had just 12 registered voters), while turnout in other facilities ranged from 42% to 91%.
The Wisconsin State Journal also analyzed data from the Wisconsin Elections Commission’s Badger Voters service and found that while a nursing home in Brown County with eight registered voters had 100% turnout, the other 51 facilities in Brown, Kenosha, Milwaukee and Racine counties had rates ranging from 20% to 94%. Overall, the turnouts were in line with the 72% participation rate for all voters statewide, and they were not much different from nursing home participation rates in 2016.
Regardless of whether one believes nursing home votes were illegal or improper because of the rules changes implemented by the WEC, there’s no way to know for whom those voters cast their ballots.
The report and Gableman’s testimony prompted calls among some Republicans to decertify the state’s election results. But that has not happened. Biden’s slim victory over Trump in Wisconsin — by 20,600 votes — was confirmed by recount and was certified by the governor.
The Wisconsin State Journal said that in five of the seven counties where Gableman claimed there were specific instances of voting irregularities in nursing homes, the county district attorneys said they had not received any voter fraud referrals related to nursing homes in November 2020. The newspaper did not get responses from the other two counties.
Ruling in an open records lawsuit related to the special counsel investigation, Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn on July 28 blasted the investigation — which has cost taxpayers over $1 million — saying it found “absolutely no evidence of election fraud.”
Given all of this, there isn’t any basis for Trump’s claim of “thousands and thousands and thousands of crooked votes” from Wisconsin’s nursing homes.
The question of voting fraud in Wisconsin nursing homes & 100% voting in Wisconsin counties has been answered.
You have shown to be wrong with no evidence to prove your belief.
Shall we move on to mail-in voting law changes or do you have something resembling evidence to present rather than just unfounded accusations?
I’m not quoting your 45 paragraph response bc you don’t have a response. You just copy and paste whats convenient to your slant. I never said nursing homes in Wisconsin. I named numerous examples the Dems have never provided a fact based answer to. They just use their media propaganda machine to slant stories and facts and promote their message. They suckered you in. My response remains the same, you don’t provide an answer bc you can’t.
The nursing home claim is from Wisconsin...it was part of the GOP led investigation and it was proven to be false.
Your first example has been answered.
if we're done here I've asked you if you want to move on to your claim about mail-in voting
The answer was the declination of the report by the Wisconsin legislature & legal system....had nothing to do with media propaganda
The report and Gableman’s testimony prompted calls among some Republicans to decertify the state’s election results. But that has not happened. Biden’s slim victory over Trump in Wisconsin — by 20,600 votes — was confirmed by recount and was certified by the governor.
Ruling in an open records lawsuit related to the special counsel investigation, Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn on July 28 blasted the investigation — which has cost taxpayers over $1 million — saying it found “absolutely no evidence of election fraud.”
Given all of this, there isn’t any basis for Trump’s claim of “thousands and thousands and thousands of crooked votes” from Wisconsin’s nursing homes.
It’s far more then 1 nursing home. It’s far more then Wisconsin. Here you go again just Ike cock work—spin, spin, spin. Lie, deny, defect. You follow the same routine, claiming the media propaganda was due to the declination of the report in Wisconsin 🙄. You havent answered sh*t all night other then supplying santed media articles which you do in every thread.
This is why it’s impossible to have a conversation with you bc you are so stupid on every topic. You think by quoting lengthy articles from radical media sites that hate Trump as much as you do is how you answer, then spin your BS. You can’t provide fact based answers to any of the voting fraud evidence. You haven’t all night. It’s just one slant artice after the next. The bottom line is you and the Dems hate Trump bc you fear him and can’t control Trump.
This is why it’s impossible to have a conversation with you bc you are so stupid on every topic. You think by quoting lengthy articles from radical media sites that hate Trump as much as you do is how you answer, then spin your BS. You can’t provide fact based answers to any of the voting fraud evidence. You haven’t all night. It’s just one slant artice after the next. The bottom line is you and the Dems hate Trump bc you fear him and can’t control Trump.
Try and read something you sloppy drunk...
The data is about more than 1 nursing home in Wisconsin
If the nursing home accusation is somewhere other than Wisconsin present it
You fail to support any of your accusations with anything that resembles a fact and then complain when shown how your accusations have been addressed and disproven in the real world
The article covers the legal proceedings & data related to your unfounded accusation about nursing home voting
You provide noting but your feckless boot licking support of the loser of 2020
THAT's why you lost...that's why trump lost
You have had 2 years to submit anything more than an accusation and haven't been able to...
so, it's not just me, but like I said earlier, I'm not going to argue with him ...
So you want a meaningful debate and when simply asked for the evidence of fraud you run from the debate?
There is no point at this time. This is why we need to be able to roast each other without limitation. That is what made this board great.
I am not a Ray Graves fan per se, but that is a terrible non-answer.
That is the exact line that the BLM community uses to say, "I am exhausted in telling you (white people) how you have white privledge. You white people need to do the work." Which is a ruse and obfuscation. If it is there (and different from racism), then explain it.
All agreed that there was fraud, just not widespread fraud to overturn the six states needed to give Trumo the presidency. Even the MSM publishes that.
Now - was there a LOT of appearance and potential fraud? Yes - it is why the new election laws make (mostly) sense.
Every time the UMAGA crowd focuses on 2020, it's a loser. You all look like clowns and get dunked on. Democrats love it which is why they would love the J6 investigations to run through 2024 and beyond.
Everytime they focus on the issues and failures of FJB, it's a winner. So many: border issues, inflation, failed foreign policy (Afghanistan), moving from D&I to DEI/culture dimensions, etc., Winners.
Not a hard equation...
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I think that you think that you are walking the middle. No offense but you aren't.
No offense taken. It does not refute or change any of the above, but no offense.
Increasingly, there is no middle in the minds of many....
Trump is a religious figure. A savior. Persecuted in the minds of the UMaga crowd - with understandable reasons why (Russia, two impeachments, etc.).
Garland better having something great, or else the middle (which, there are many independents) will vote R in droves.
Garland better having something great, or else the middle (which, there are many independents) will vote R in droves.
I suspect we don't agree on too much but a legitimate respectable answer is always appreciated. 👍
