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BRING BACK BOBBY BOWDEN?

BRING BACK BOBBY BOWDEN?


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grommit

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So 4th straight opening game loss for FSU. Is it time to bring back the legend? Jimbo is long gone and many would argue FSU's current problems still stem from the locker room issues he left behind. That leaves Bobby.
 
At this point...there may be only one man who can save FSU...

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At this point...there may be only one man who can save FSU...

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Sad,

Found this article about Terry Bowden - check it out !
,... he (Terry Bowden) still has aspirations of leading his own program once again.

"...Terry Bowden has 25 years of experience as a head coach in college football. His jobs range from being the head man at lower-level schools Salem and North Alabama to leading Auburn to an undefeated season in the SEC.

He has experienced the highest of highs, winning a pair of bowl games during his time at Auburn and having success in the Division II playoffs during a stint at North Alabama. There’s also the lowest of lows, including getting fired from Auburn after a 1-5 start in 1998 and being fired from Akron after going 4-8 in 2018.

But Bowden had never experienced anything quite like he did this year at Clemson.

The 63-year-old put aside his pride to serve as an unpaid grad intern for Dabo Swinney’s team in 2019, being a staff member as something other than a head coach of a program for the first time in more than 30 years.

There was an initial problem when Bowden first came to Swinney — he didn’t have an opening on his staff.

“I said, ‘Well, we don’t have volunteers and I don’t have any jobs open. The only option you’ve got is you could be a grad intern, but you’ve gotta be a full-time grad student,’” Swinney recalled. “He’s got to pay for everything. He doesn’t get anything.”

So off to enroll at Clemson Bowden went. He is working to earn a master’s degree in athletic leadership to go along with his bachelor’s and law degrees.

While Bowden enjoyed his time at Clemson this past season, he still has aspirations of leading his own program once again. When that time comes, he will take what he learned from Swinney and Clemson’s staff and try to apply it somewhere new."

https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article239571053.html
 
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Bring a 91 year-old carcass back to coach. What could possibly go wrong?
I’ll put $100 down towards Norvell’s buyout to see this happen.
I'd rather put 100$ down to help buy the golf cart so he can once again roam the sidelines in glory.
 
Bobbie could be an analyst for Terry & teach him how to cheat better !

As a recruiting staffer, like Coach Rat, would Bobbie be allowed to make in-home visits ? Bet he would still be a hell of a closer !
 
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So 4th straight opening game loss for FSU. Is it time to bring back the legend? Jimbo is long gone and many would argue FSU's current problems still stem from the locker room issues he left behind. That leaves Bobby.

And it's not going to get any easier, their next three opening games are Notre Dame and LSU twice.
 
I don't think Norvell is the problem.

FSU just doesn't have the raw talent that they had a few years ago. People underestimate the importance of Dalvin Cook in keeping FSU reasonably competitive for a couple of years after Jameis went pro. They will probably have to slum it out as a middling ACC team for a while to rebuild credibility with recruits.

I didn't see the entire game, but I thought FSU looked better than they did under Taggart–even with the loss. Taggart era FSU was completely lacking in discipline and fire.
 
Blackman is a good representation of what is wrong with this program. I don’t believe he is the sole reason we are struggling but if you watch him on the field and on the sidelines he encompasses all of our problems. When things are going well he’s pumping everything and everyone up around him. When things are bad he finger points and throws tantrums. At one point during the game there was a shot of Norvell kneeling down in Blackman’s face telling him to calm down. Last year you would see Blackman pouting on the sidelines, getting into it with Taggart, he did the same with Jimbo. When your QB lacks emotional maturity you’re screwed. This whole team lacks emotional maturity. Early in the game they are amped and ready to right the ship. Any little pressure applied and we fold. The smartest thing GaTech did was getting any pressure on Blackman. Just like this team, the slightest pressure breaks them. They do not know how to handle adversity. That is going to be Norvell’s biggest challenge.

My overall concern is Norvell has never built a program. He inherited a good/great situation in Memphis. This is his first time taking over a program in bad shape and he’s learning how to do it on the job. FSU is a tough place to learn how to build something from the floor up. Using UF as an example both of your most successful coaches learned how to establish and build successful programs before taking the Florida job. Your current coach has that experience. I hope I’m wrong but we may have pulled the trigger on a guy that has a high ceiling for offense but will need more time than the fan base will allow for his vision of the program to come to fruition.
 
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Blackman is a good representation of what is wrong with this program. I don’t believe he is the sole reason we are struggling but if you watch him on the field and on the sidelines he encompasses all of our problems. When things are going well he’s pumping everything and everyone up around him. When things are bad he finger points and throws tantrums. At one point during the game there was a shot of Norvell kneeling down in Blackman’s face telling him to calm down. Last year you would see Blackman pouting on the sidelines, getting into it with Taggart, he did the same with Jimbo. When your QB lacks emotional maturity you’re screwed. This whole team lacks emotional maturity. Early in the game they are amped and ready to right the ship. Any little pressure applied and we fold. The smartest thing GaTech did was getting any pressure on Blackman. Just like this team, the slightest pressure breaks them. They do not know how to handle adversity. That is going to be Norvell’s biggest challenge.

My overall concern is Norvell has never built a program. He inherited a good/great situation in Memphis. This is his first time taking over a program in bad shape and he’s learning how to do it on the job. FSU is a tough place to learn how to build something from the floor up. Using UF as an example both of your most successful coaches learned how to establish and build successful programs before taking the Florida job. Your current coach has that experience. I hope I’m wrong but we may have pulled the trigger on a guy that has a high ceiling for offense but will need more time than the fan base will allow for his vision of the program to come to fruition.
Good points. I pretty much agree with everything you said.
 
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you still got guys with attitudes like Mars-Woodley getting in Tech guy's faces after he makes a tackle, you would think FSU was blowing out Ga Tech the way he was acting...that's all a residual of the culture which deteriorated there under Jimbo
 
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you still got guys with attitudes like Mars-Woodley getting in Tech guy's faces after he makes a tackle, you would think FSU was blowing out Ga Tech the way he was acting...that's all a residual of the culture which deteriorated there under Jimbo
Deteriorated? It was always like that! They were taking pride in injuring other team’s players under bowden. darnell docket bragged about twisting Earnest Graham’s knee in the pile. They’ve always been a bunch of front running punks. You didn’t go to f$u under bowden bc you wanted to push yourself and become the best player you could be. You went there bc they cheated much better than the rest of the acc and you would be playing cupcakes all but 1-2 games a year. You’d get to high step and dance and trash talk bc you got Maryland or duke or wake 80% of the time. It’s not a surprise that if you didn’t back down they would sh8t the bed more often than not, just like any bully. Jimbo didn’t cause that. That’s who they always were.
 
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Blackman is a good representation of what is wrong with this program. I don’t believe he is the sole reason we are struggling but if you watch him on the field and on the sidelines he encompasses all of our problems. When things are going well he’s pumping everything and everyone up around him. When things are bad he finger points and throws tantrums. At one point during the game there was a shot of Norvell kneeling down in Blackman’s face telling him to calm down. Last year you would see Blackman pouting on the sidelines, getting into it with Taggart, he did the same with Jimbo. When your QB lacks emotional maturity you’re screwed. This whole team lacks emotional maturity. Early in the game they are amped and ready to right the ship. Any little pressure applied and we fold. The smartest thing GaTech did was getting any pressure on Blackman. Just like this team, the slightest pressure breaks them. They do not know how to handle adversity. That is going to be Norvell’s biggest challenge.

My overall concern is Norvell has never built a program. He inherited a good/great situation in Memphis. This is his first time taking over a program in bad shape and he’s learning how to do it on the job. FSU is a tough place to learn how to build something from the floor up. Using UF as an example both of your most successful coaches learned how to establish and build successful programs before taking the Florida job. Your current coach has that experience. I hope I’m wrong but we may have pulled the trigger on a guy that has a high ceiling for offense but will need more time than the fan base will allow for his vision of the program to come to fruition.

The fanbase will be VERY impatient.

Only hope is that Norvell simply can’t be fired financially. I mean look at the Taggart situation- someone determined the loss in season ticket revenue would be more than the buyout. The roles need to be reversed for Norvell to be given a 3rd, 4th, or 5th year instead of being canned.
 
Anyone know if Willie Taggart is still available? Perhaps FSU can inquire as to what his current buyout is.
 
Yes. Old guys in wheel chairs muttering and soiling their depends are exactly what most kids look for in a program.

Ummm, maybe I'm exaggerating but that's how Notre Dame won it's last national championship under Lou Holtz.
 
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