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Breaking: Big 10 holds meeting today, preparing to cancel football season

So my dream scenario would actually be everyone cancels except the SEC.

The SEC then plays its 10-game season, then has the SECCG, the winner is dubbed SEC and National Champs.

Fans all across the country have to watch SEC play asking "Heeeeeeyyyyyy!!!!!! How come they can play and aren't getting sick???? We lost our season for nothing!"
 
I’m the last person to stand up for the NCAA but if this season folds this is not their fault even though they’ll be blamed and already are by sports commentators that are ignorant to how college football is set up. The NCAA’s only power is handing out penalties for infractions. And the universities want it that way. The schools and their conferences are in charge of planning and managing their seasons. Not the NCAA. That means the schools and conferences are in charge of planning through all crises just like after 9/11. If you don’t want the NCAA managing your sport outside of the infractions you don’t get to use them as a scapegoat when you can’t properly plan or respond appropriately to the ignorant demands of college students.
 
Hope every conf does opt out except the ACC and SEC


Eeeh not much point. The ultimate prize can only be a moral victory. There wont be a recognized national champion.

I like watching football as well, but it loses a ton of enticement in that theres not much worth playing for other than a wonky bragging right over uga.

The cons outweigh the pros.
 
Eeeh not much point. The ultimate prize can only be a moral victory. There wont be a recognized national champion.

I like watching football as well, but it loses a ton of enticement in that theres not much worth playing for other than a wonky bragging right over uga.

The cons outweigh the pros.

The season will be tainted regardless at this point and there will always be an asterisk besides whatever team wins the championship, if any do.
 
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And since we are in a hypothetical world right now what would keep the SEC from participating in a spring season too? If that’s the goal of the other conferences is to wait until spring why couldn’t the SEC participate in that as well, bring in more revenue and possibly more prestige in a spring national title/playoff? These conferences are completely short sighted right now and as per usual the SEC is making really smart business moves... We f’d up in ‘91.
 
And how many draft eligible juniors and seniors are going to play in a spring season instead of preparing for the draft? The NFL isn’t changing it’s draft schedule around for the PAC12 and Big10.
 
And since we are in a hypothetical world right now what would keep the SEC from participating in a spring season too? If that’s the goal of the other conferences is to wait until spring why couldn’t the SEC participate in that as well, bring in more revenue and possibly more prestige in a spring national title/playoff? These conferences are completely short sighted right now and as per usual the SEC is making really smart business moves... We f’d up in ‘91.


1. It's unfair to the 95% of the players who wont get drafted. It takes time away from their studies.

2. Multiple seasons increases the risk of long term or even permanant injuries. It would mean that they would get zero cool down between seasons. You would be in strength conditioning IN WINTER. I played football when I was younger, i would have despised having to play two seasons in one year. Especially, if it was an ultimatum to keep my scholarship.


Youre only looking the situation from a financial standpoint as if the players are robots.

You either play in the Fall for a worthless bragging right.....or you play in the Spring for something that is nationally recognized.

You dont get to do both.

Other conference commisioners already have come out supporting a Spring Season. You might as well jump on board, because if any football is going to be played, it will be in the Spring only.
 
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1. Unfair to the 95% of the players who wont get drafted....it takes time away from their studies.

2. Multiple seasons increases the risk of long term or even permabant injuries.


Your only looking the situation from a financial standpoint as if the players are robots.
Yes. The academic argument... like when adding a 12th game to the regular season, a conference title game, and now playoffs. It’s all about the academics. College football is a business. The kids not getting drafted still want to play. It’s a voluntary sport.
 
Yes. The academic argument... like when adding a 12th game to the regular season, a conference title game, and now playoffs. It’s all about the academics. College football is a business. The kids not getting drafted still want to play. It’s a voluntary sport.


So let me get this straight......you think...

1. A single extra game in a season

Or

2. 1-2 extra games in a playoff for 4 teams


.....is no different of an impact academically on a student than playing about 24 games(or more) in 6-8 months?

Lol Im glad youre not representing UF, bud.


P.S. Yes its a business. No, the kids did NOT agree to play multiple seasons in 6-8 months. If you wanna call that business than the BBB needs to step in.
 
So let me get this straight......you think...

1. A single extra game in a season

Or

2. 1-2 extra games in a playoff for 4 teams


.....is no different of an impact academically on a student than playing about 24 games(or more) in 6-8 months?

Lol Im glad youre not representing UF, bud.


P.S. Yes its a business. No, the kids did NOT agree to play multiple seasons in 6-8 months. If you wanna call that business than the BBB needs to step in.
LOL oh the humanity. Healthy 17-22 year olds will have to play 13 games then several months later do it again. Every time there is talk about expanding a season the academic argument comes out. And every time it’s garbage. Are you concerned about their physical well being or their academics? Because your whole premise to begin with was their academic success. They are given tutors, special study sessions with professors and TAs in both semesters. Both semesters come with football obligations. For one spring there would be game requirements outside of a spring game. Stop clutching your pearls.

And yes, the SEC should claim a national title if they’re the only ones that play (My guess is the Big10 is about to change their mind though). A spring league without its best players as they prepare for the draft is as questionable of a championship as a fall league with only 14-20 teams competing.

*injuries happen in the spring and summer too. Football is a contact sport.
 
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LOL oh the humanity. Healthy 17-22 year olds will have to play 13 games then several months later do it again. Every time there is talk about expanding a season the academic argument comes out. And every time it’s garbage. Are you concerned about their physical well being or their academics? Because your whole premise to begin with was their academic success. They are given tutors, special study sessions with professors and TAs in both semesters. Both semesters come with football obligations. For one spring there would be game requirements outside of a spring game. Stop clutching your pearls.

And yes, the SEC should claim a national title if they’re the only ones that play (My guess is the Big10 is about to change their mind though). A spring league without its best players as they prepare for the draft is as questionable of a championship as a fall league with only 14-20 teams competing.

*injuries happen in the spring and summer too. Football is a contact sport.



By your own logic, why shouldnt they have football all year round? They are young so its not like stress fractures that go unproperly rested cant result in something worse because they are young, right?(I speak personally on that). Shoot, why even have pads at all, right? They are young bucks and that always get up fine after every play.

Your logic is of one Ive heard from many people who never played a physical sport at the high school level and up. Im beginning to wonder if yall get some sort of pamplet to resort to untill you commit it to memory, because its uncanny how in some cases its almost sentence for sentence in what is said.


And yes, colleges provide academic assistence but you missed the point on a personal level, as you have from the very beginning.

Im not a snowflake. I thought it was fair not to give each player an allowance because it was a fair trade between playing a football season and its training off season for a free scholarship and room. 2 seasons so close together is not a fair trade.

I have no doubt that the main reason why you lack the empathy is due to a narcissistic nature
 
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By your own logic, why shouldnt they have football all year round? They are young so its not like stress fractures that go unproperly rested cant result in something worse because they are young, right?. (I speak personally on that). Shoot, why even have pads at all, right? They are young bucks and that always get up fine after every play.

Your logic is of one Ive heard from many people who never played a physical sport at the high school level and up. Im beginning to wonder if yall get some sort of pamplet to resort to untill you commit it to memory, because its uncanny how in some cases its almost sentence for sentence in what is said.


And yes, colleges provide academic assistence but you missed the point on a personal level, as you have from the very beginning.

Im not a snowflake. I thought it was fair not to give each player an allowance because it was a fair trade between playing a football season and its training off season for a free scholarship and room. 2 seasons so close together is not a fair trade.

I have no doubt that the main reason why you lack the empathy is due to a narcissistic nature
You are a snowflake. I played ball in college. One spring of a football season isn’t that big of a deal and if a kid can get more film of himself out there he will want to do it. If you think players aren’t busting their asses in spring to earn starting roles I have to question how competitive you actually were. It’s one of the reasons why kids get hurt in spring football. It’s a risk but the chances of catastrophic injury are rare. There is always a chance of something bad happening. That’s life.

I didn’t miss any point about academics. You trotted out the same ole bs about caring about the kids’ academics while the sport increases its time away from the classroom. They’re traveling further than they ever have and increased practice time and length with the additional conference and playoff games. The academic argument is washed up and totally insincere.
 
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You are a snowflake. I played ball in college. One spring of a football season isn’t that big of a deal and if a kid can get more film of himself out there he will want to do it. If you think players aren’t busting their asses in spring to earn starting roles I have to question how competitive you actually were. It’s one of the reasons why kids get hurt in spring football. It’s a risk but the chances of catastrophic injury are rare. There is always a chance of something bad happening. That’s life.

I didn’t miss any point about academics. You trotted out the same ole bs about caring about the kids’ academics while the sport increases its time away from the classroom. They’re traveling further than they ever have and increased practice time and length with the additional conference and playoff games. The academic argument is washed up and totally insincere.


Sure you did.
 
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There could be an argument that, unless the P5 conferences don't all play, then a team
That didn't play any cupcakes and instead played more conference games (inherently more difficult) would make a better argument for a national
Championship, instead of the teams that normally play 3-4 cupcakes.

just saying.
 
Forfeit a game you lose a chance for a win.

Forfeit a season and you lose a chance to be NC.

If the SEC and any other Conf. plays a season, even a shortened one, then their Conf. Champs have a chance to play for a NC.

If the SEC is the only Conf. that plays the 2020 season, then the SEC-C is also the NC.

Pretty simple really... :cool:
 
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Eeeh not much point. The ultimate prize can only be a moral victory. There wont be a recognized national champion.

I like watching football as well, but it loses a ton of enticement in that theres not much worth playing for other than a wonky bragging right over uga.

The cons outweigh the pros.

Ummm UCF claims a national title and the winner is pretty much guaranteed to cone from SEC or ACC. The other 3 are just playing for 2nd
 


Heres a quote from Urban Meyer...about playing 2 seasons a year.

"“No chance,” Meyer, an assistant athletics director at Ohio State and FOX Sports college football analyst, said, via 247sports.com. “You can’t ask a player to play two seasons in a calendar year. When I first heard that, I said that. I don’t see that happening, when I hear that. The body, in my very strong opinion, is not made to play two seasons within a calendar year. That’s 2,000 repetitive reps and football’s a physical, tough sport. So I don’t, really don’t, see that happening.”


But according to FSUMC, he knows more than the Headcoaches of sucessful programs, because he "played ball in college".

.....those whippersnappers are just lazy according to him. Maybe the nole was never putting in the effort where he needed the time to recover....if he ever played at all. Lol
 
I would love to play 11 other conference teams plus FSU every year.

The patsy games really suck.

They are necessary to give the starters rest plus the backups experience.

Take away 4 OOC scrubs and replace them with 4 SEC teams and all you're going to get is more injuries and more losses.
 
They are necessary to give the starters rest plus the backups experience.

Take away 4 OOC scrubs and replace them with 4 SEC teams and all you're going to get is more injuries and more losses.

Sounds good to me. 3 patsies is a GD joke. If you play the entire conference, you get some easy games.
 
Heres a quote from Urban Meyer...about playing 2 seasons a year.

"“No chance,” Meyer, an assistant athletics director at Ohio State and FOX Sports college football analyst, said, via 247sports.com. “You can’t ask a player to play two seasons in a calendar year. When I first heard that, I said that. I don’t see that happening, when I hear that. The body, in my very strong opinion, is not made to play two seasons within a calendar year. That’s 2,000 repetitive reps and football’s a physical, tough sport. So I don’t, really don’t, see that happening.”


But according to FSUMC, he knows more than the Headcoaches of sucessful programs, because he "played ball in college".

.....those whippersnappers are just lazy according to him. Maybe the nole was never putting in the effort where he needed the time to recover....if he ever played at all. Lol
The coach that quits because of heartburn is probably not the guy to talk about toughness.

but weren’t you just encouraging the spring football season? You’re advocating for two seasons in a calendar year...
 
And that two seasons in a calendar year is exactly why spring football won’t happen either. Which is why any teams that play this year have every right to claim a national title if they win their conference and play the other league(s) champion. Those other conferences have screwed over their athletes for an entire year. But at least they get a full 12 months to work on their parks and recreation degrees.
 
The coach that quits because of heartburn is probably not the guy to talk about toughness.

but weren’t you just encouraging the spring football season? You’re advocating for two seasons in a calendar year...


1. Urban Meyer's health issues have no bearing on this subject. You are ridicolous to pretend otherwise. If you had any self awareness you would have stopped yourself from typing what you just did.

But let me humor you...yes a coach with "heartburn" that was sucessful everywhere he went and won national championships at multiple colleges knows more about the hardship on the players than you know. Got it, champ? Want to compare your resume to his, Mr. "Played ball"? If so, prove it. Right here, right now.

2. Im not advocating for two seasons. I stressed that in post 17 of this thread....heres what I said.....

"You either play in the Fall for a worthless bragging right.....or you play in the Spring for something that is nationally recognized.
You dont get to do both."


I said you either pick in the fall or the spring, but not both because its too hard on the players. YOU were the one that said that it was possible and insulted them if they couldnt do it. You said the players should do it because its more opportunity to get their tape out there.

What's wrong with you? I would accuse you of lacking reading comprehension, but you knew that I was against two seasons and you supported it....the posters here can see our past posts. Youre now trying to flip the arguments because you look ridicolous.

Good grief man, you make instagator look amazing compared to you. At least he can keep the story straight on who said what.

Get out of this thread, dude. Theres nothing you can say to salvage any credibility now. If you dont want to leave, than at least leave the debating to someone that knows how to do it, like numbers or goldmom.
 
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1. Urban Meyer's health issues have no bearing on this subject. You are ridicolous to pretend otherwise. If you had any self awareness you would have stopped yourself from typing what you just did.

But let me humor you...yes a coach with "heartburn" that was sucessful everywhere he went and won national championships at multiple colleges knows more about the hardship on the players than you know. Got it, champ? Want to compare your resume to his, Mr. "Played ball"? If so, prove it. Right here, right now.

2. Im not advocating for two seasons. I stressed that in post 17 of this thread....heres what I said.....

"You either play in the Fall for a worthless bragging right.....or you play in the Spring for something that is nationally recognized.
You dont get to do both."


I said you either pick in the fall or the spring, but not both because its too hard on the players. YOU were the one that said that it was possible and insulted them if they couldnt do it. You said the players should do it because its more opportunity to get their tape out there.

What's wrong with you? I would accuse you of lacking reading comprehension, but you knew that I was against two seasons and you supported it....the posters here can see our past posts. Youre now trying to flip the arguments because you look ridicolous.

Good grief man, you make instagator look amazing compared to you. At least he can keep the story straight on who said what.

Get out of this thread, dude. Theres nothing you can say to salvage any credibility now. If you dont want to leave, than at least leave the debating to someone that knows how to do it, like numbers or goldmom.
LOL so again you’re all about a spring 2021 season... what happens in the fall of 2021? No season then? Again, you are advocating for two seasons in a calendar year but you’re so concerned over their safety. It’s as hollow as your concern about their academics.

And I didn’t insult the players. You did by insinuating they are too soft to play in the fall and spring. I asked a hypothetical and because you have the emotional maturity of a toddler you started insulting the person instead of the argument.

Back to the point. The draft eligible players won’t play in the spring. The up and comers and new kids wanting the exposure will. There is always risk.
 
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