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Biden and temp gas tax suspension a double joke: Biden himself and his stupid idea

Ask KalimGoodman if he's ever heard of Solyndra and the lesson of government involvement of pushing technology and the boondoggle waste of money when government puts its money on the wrong horse. Your point of allowing free markets to do their thing is the critical point.
The problem is the gov’t always pushes instead of pulls.

Take the $500BB Obama wasted on Solyndra and give rebates for using US solar panels to make the price the same as Chinese panels. Ramp those rebates down on a schedule putting pressure on US producers to get more efficient. Let them build scale, efficiencies and get more competitive.

Oh, and let us mine the raw materials here so we can stop relying on China, India and Africa by changing the EPA policies.
 
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Makes zero sense. It does take a long time to get a nuclear plant up, 10+ years. So I guess if you’re saying the world is going to end in a decade it eliminates that option, but we all know that’s BS.
That's why I can't get behind any of these "we need renewable energy/get off fossil fuel" charades. Nuclear energy answers so many of the questions yet it's treated as taboo. That lets me know these clean energy fanatics are not serious.
 
I don’t think it’s “uncool”. I’d love a Tesla, I’m just not going to fork over $60k for a car. Plus, where I live coal would largely be its fuel.

Hybrids and electrics are almost 10% of all car sales. It’s growing. The problem is gas engines are keeping up. I have a 2001 Passat 1.8 that’s pretty quick and gets 32mpg. A friend of mine drives a 3cyl turbo Focus to tournaments and gets low to mid 40’s.

Why screw with the damage to the earth and mechanical complexity of a hybrid for max 15mpg improvement?

My point is free markets are efficient - unless the govt forces things alternative energy will pick up adoption when it’s less expensive/more efficient than carbon based fuel sources. If the govt intervenes before that energy prices will spike.
Very good stuff. This is the most normal you've ever been haha. Hope you can have more of this. I don't disagree with your points. It is a long process to change. I just don't think we can handle that right now. Too many people fight change. That's why government needs to stay away because adding government, adds partisanship.
 
So the oil execs are either invited or ordered to the white house to talk, BUT BIDEN HIMSELF WON'T SPEAK WITH THEM. What sense does that make, especially after Biden has called them out. Does that make sense to you?
No
 
I forgot how disingenuous you were. My bad. I will stop engaging now.

I guess you won’t even take the guy you voted for at his word. I will put the oil industry out if business. How do you do that? You regulate them out. Driving up their price so high that consumers can no longer afford their product. I am done with your ignorance now.
You can do that without regulation. You can just create cheaper, easier and effective alternatives. I don't agree with you that that's the only way to put someone out of business. Just look at blockbuster or taxi companies.

I'm not being disingenuous. You just struggle with debates/conversations. You think everything should be "you're right" or you get frustrated/mad. That's why I purposely mentioned not to get mad because you always do when someone challenge your opinion or approach.
 
So I can pump 10 gallons and save a buck 80. Wow. Easy street here we come. Gee Biden, didn't the taps to the strtegic petroleum reserve do the trick.
Go back and listen to your old boss Obama talk about the gas tax suspension as a "gimmick".

What a fool he is and what a tool for the left.
Pelosi and Schumer will never approve of this, so its really just Biden blowing smoke up our arzes.
 
I don't make fun of poor people but do you.
No, son...I make fun of people who PRETEND to be better than everyone else...that are truly just lying about their place in life...like little bsuck does. Secondly..I care less than ZERO what you think of me. You are a snowflake...and a danger to my Country.
 
Hopefully this leads to a respectful discussion and not hardball opinions.

Don't you think that the fact that we have to beg CEOs to lower cost and increase production is even more reason to look into other options? Should we have countries hold the US consumer by the balls?

We really need to move on from oil when we can IMO. It's just too flaky with to me but I open to hearing opinions.
WE do not need to beg CEO's. The CEO's are being restricted by Biden's polices. He has attacked them from Day 1. He is using them and the owners of gas stations as scape goats and claiming they are profiteering. Lift the restrictions and then they companies will be able to produce more.
WE do not need to rely on our Countries. Look back to before Biden, the US was an exporter of oil. Biden needs to end HIS war on OIL and lift his policies.
 
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Hopefully this leads to a respectful discussion and not hardball opinions.

Don't you think that the fact that we have to beg CEOs to lower cost and increase production is even more reason to look into other options? Should we have countries hold the US consumer by the balls?

We really need to move on from oil when we can IMO. It's just too flaky with to me but I open to hearing opinions.
do you even a LITLE BIT understand what Capitalism is? Secondly...those Countries are holding us by the balls because of the IDIOT that stole the election. This is 100% on whoever is controlling Brandon...my guess Susan Rice proxying for Hussein obama
 
We never achieved energy independence. Trump administration did produce the most oil under his presidency, he deserves credit for that but Biden administration is producing more.
VERY, VERY skewed outlook. Take the covid time out, and your statement is not accurate. Trump did what it took to produce more oil than we imported. THAT is what is important. Brandon is begging our worse enemies..ones he hammered lying to get elected. The reason? On his FIRST day in office....he stopped new drilling in the gulf...and ANY federal land. This is REALLY, REALLY simple. He needs to put back the EXact POLICIES tRUMP HAD...AND everything WOULD GET BETTER(CONCERNING GAS AND OIL)
 
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You can do that without regulation. You can just create cheaper, easier and effective alternatives. I don't agree with you that that's the only way to put someone out of business. Just look at blockbuster or taxi companies.

I'm not being disingenuous. You just struggle with debates/conversations. You think everything should be "you're right" or you get frustrated/mad. That's why I purposely mentioned not to get mad because you always do when someone challenge your opinion or approach.
Again, when you learn how to properly comprehend what you read, and are actually sincere in approach I will re-evaluate and engage. Until then, much like Biden I will take you at your own word. You’re nothing more than a troll.

I will let everyone else smack you around, as they always do.
 
Chevron CEO and ExxonMobil CEO said they are mad at his rhetoric. They never said regulations. They also said that production isn't slow. They just have more oil to distribute with Russia war and China lockdown.
You have to be trolling here...NO ONE (except bsuck) can be this dumb. Either way....I have better things to do than go back and forth with a troll/ignorant person
 
You have to be trolling here...NO ONE (except bsuck) can be this dumb. Either way....I have better things to do than go back and forth with a troll/ignorant person
Bingo. The board cornered him so bad one time, that his only out was to attempt to say….well, I was just trolling. After that, nothing he has said should be taken as anything other than that. A 😈
 
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I don't get how someone finds it sooooooo intriguing to come on a message board, being the equivalent of going around normal people, and spew out usually questionable if not senseless rhetoric as if it's somewhat reasonable and pliable even. It's one thing to troll, but at least troll on someone or a group like this one with provocative and challenging viewpoints. Not emotionally-charged nonsense.
 
I don't get how someone finds it sooooooo intriguing to come on a message board, being the equivalent of going around normal people, and spew out usually questionable if not senseless rhetoric as if it's somewhat reasonable and pliable even. It's one thing to troll, but at least troll on someone or a group like this one with provocative and challenging viewpoints. Not emotionally-charged nonsense.
Quite frankly, being a troll on the internet is about as sad of an existence as there is. Its, I live in mommies basement sort of stuff.
 
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I respect this but these are opinion pieces, which are meant to confirm beliefs. Linked liberal articles saying that its not. Not saying either is right and please don't get mad and take that approach. I'm just saying opinion pieces aren't helpful.

That's why I said what are the actual CEOs saying.



Opinion pieces aren't helpful, so you hand us two opinion pieces....
 
I forgot how disingenuous you were. My bad. I will stop engaging now.

I guess you won’t even take the guy you voted for at his word. I will put the oil industry out if business. How do you do that? You regulate them out. Driving up their price so high that consumers can no longer afford their product. I am done with your ignorance now.
Campaign promises made, campaign promises met. The real question is, who ARE these retarded so called 81 million voters who asked for this? Sum Ting Wong tells me that they don't actually exist, even a lukewarm IQ of 98 wouldn't wish for this. :rolleyes:
 
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Again, when you learn how to properly comprehend what you read, and are actually sincere in approach I will re-evaluate and engage. Until then, much like Biden I will take you at your own word. You’re nothing more than a troll.

I will let everyone else smack you around, as they always do.
I'll understand why you get so mad when someone challenge you or disagree with you. You are not God but whatever.
 
Opinion pieces aren't helpful, so you hand us two opinion pieces....
It was proving a point. Guess you missed that. Opinion pieces are worthless, so I linked some to show how you can find them on both sides.
 
WE do not need to beg CEO's. The CEO's are being restricted by Biden's polices. He has attacked them from Day 1. He is using them and the owners of gas stations as scape goats and claiming they are profiteering. Lift the restrictions and then they companies will be able to produce more.
WE do not need to rely on our Countries. Look back to before Biden, the US was an exporter of oil. Biden needs to end HIS war on OIL and lift his policies.
It is fair to think/believe that.
 
You get mad. Don't try to speak for everyone else.
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