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Bank failures pointing to a recession?

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Sounds like this may spread a little as a lot of these regional banks dangerously locked their money into low interest mortgage backed securities that have fallen a lot in value due to the interest rate increases to fight inflation. So now they don't have the money on hand to cover the deposits.

I thought the recession wouldn't start until Q3 or Q4 of this year a few days ago but I think this could make it start in Q2 possibly.
 


Here we go. I guess they are saying depositers will be bailed out now fearing more bank runs.
This wouldn't be an issue if they let the chips fall where they may. Only idiots deposit more than 250k in a single institution per depositor. Being stupid really ought to be painful. The .Gov is going to bail out woke banks though, rest assured.
 
Why didn't Ivanka Trump? She was on Signature Bank's board of directors

Want a simple test of the management acumen of Signature Bank?


How a Small Bank Became a Go-To Lender to the Trump Family

By Emily Flitter and Jesse Drucker
  • July 23, 2018
  • 6 MIN READ

When Michael D. Cohen needed $17 million to buy a Manhattan apartment building in 2015, he went to Signature Bank.

Signature had existed for less than two decades, and compared with some of its New York rivals, it was a small player occupying unglamorous niches.

The bank helped finance Mr. Trump’s Florida golf course. It lent money to Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, and to Mr. Kushner’s father, Charles. It provided Mr. Trump and his business with checking accounts. And Ivanka Trump sat on Signature’s board of directors while the bank was lending to her father and her husband, Mr. Kushner.

New York’s Department of Financial Services this year requested information from Signature about its credit lines to the Kushners, according to people familiar with the requests. They said regulators were reviewing whether Mr. Kushner’s White House role could compromise Signature’s ability to collect on the loans.

That review of Mr. Kushner’s loan documents led the New York regulators to broaden their inquiry, said one person, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the regulator’s activities. The agency is now looking into whether Signature lent money to real estate developers — including the Kushner family’s business, Kushner Companies — knowing they planned to use abusive tactics to push out low-rent tenants and then charge more, according to two people familiar with the review. It is focused on whether Signature’s loans were overly risky and violated laws intended to prevent predatory behavior.
 
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This wouldn't be an issue if they let the chips fall where they may. Only idiots deposit more than 250k in a single institution per depositor. Being stupid really ought to be painful. The .Gov is going to bail out woke banks though, rest assured.
What is a woke bank? You seriously say whatever they tell you to say. A woke bank, smh.
 
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A bank that pursues and supports woke policies and movements.

If I'm honest, that felt obvious.
What is woke bank policies?

My point is these idiot politicians on the right is throwing woke in front of anything. They are using woke for things that has zero to do with woke. I never heard of a woke bank, never heard of woke bank policies. It's a gimmick.

The sad part is how politicians can say something and because your "side" says it, you repeat it. That's flunkie type stuff. Be your own man people!

Not you particularly but I know you will defend anything I criticize.
 
What is woke bank policies?

You purposely left off movements I see. Supporting BLM or LBTQ+999 causes along with supporting far left politicians and politics in general, for example. You knew exactly what I meant.

My point is these idiot politicians on the right is throwing...

You said @fatman76 was picking a fight when he used this type of language. Different here I guess.

but I know you will defend anything I criticize.

That's just untrue. You notice when I challenge your position but you don't when I don't. I don't challenge every position you take. Stop whining...especially when your whining is inaccurate.
 
What is woke bank policies?

My point is these idiot politicians on the right is throwing woke in front of anything. They are using woke for things that has zero to do with woke. I never heard of a woke bank, never heard of woke bank policies. It's a gimmick.

The sad part is how politicians can say something and because your "side" says it, you repeat it. That's flunkie type stuff. Be your own man people!

Not you particularly but I know you will defend anything I criticize.
The CEO (or whatever her title is) was too busy doing "Pride Month" to notice things weren't going well. This bank was heavily invested and the main source of capital for most of those "greenie movements". If that's not considered woke, then there's no hope for you. 😂
 
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What is woke bank policies?

My point is these idiot politicians on the right is throwing woke in front of anything.
Couldn't agree more. Silicon Valley Bank would still be alive today if it wasn't for (checks notes)....."idiot politicians on the right calling them a woke bank'.
 
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Levin lambasts 'autocrat' Biden as bank failure becomes latest blemish: 'Bernie Sanders in a Biden mask'​


President Biden is an "economic illiterate" who claims to be a longtime proponent of the working class while instead bailing out wealthy accountholders at the doomed Silicon Valley Bank and engaging in "socialist-Marxist" governance, Mark Levin said Monday.


Levin, host of "Life, Liberty & Levin" and former chief of staff to Attorney General Edwin Meese III, said this latest disaster and the ones that have preceded it were predictable "when you take the ‘dumbest man in the Senate’ and you install him in the Oval Office."

Levin noted inflation was "negligible" when Biden took office, and that in the time since, he has "destroyed" America's banking system, food supply chains, immigration system, student loan system and energy system – urging federal spending to fight inflation.

"He thinks he's FDR, but I think he's more Herbert Hoover," he said on "Hannity," adding despite America's system of three coequal branches of government, Biden has long taken it upon himself to govern by-fiat.

 
The CEO (or whatever her title is) was too busy doing "Pride Month" to notice things weren't going well. This bank was heavily invested and the main source of capital for most of those "greenie movements". If that's not considered woke, then there's no hope for you. 😂
Based on what? How do you know that was the problem?
 
You purposely left off movements I see. Supporting BLM or LBTQ+999 causes along with supporting far left politicians and politics in general, for example. You knew exactly what I meant.



You said @fatman76 was picking a fight when he used this type of language. Different here I guess.



That's just untrue. You notice when I challenge your position but you don't when I don't. I don't challenge every position you take. Stop whining...especially when your whining is inaccurate.
There is no thing as a woke bank. You know it and I know it. That would be like the left calling it a MAGA Bank. It's just stupid sayings by politicians. Unlike you guys, I'm my own man and I don't follow orders from politicians.

I don't care about being challenged. It's apart of being on message boards. I just point out that you always challenge me even when you agree with me. There is definitely some "he's the "left" guy, so I can't agree with him" mindset going with you.
 
Do you ever read the news before asking silly questions? 😂 ESG is a garbage way to collateralize investments. "Feelz good" is okay for philanthropic donations but not my money.
That bank biggest investor is Peter Thiel but you guys focus the "left" investors. I'll move on from this but calling this a woke bank, told me everything about you. You are the street definition of a follower.

I know you don't read. You just relay right wing information. Mr "copy and paste", do you.
 
There is no thing as a woke bank. You know it and I know it. That would be like the left calling it a MAGA Bank. It's just stupid sayings by politicians. Unlike you guys, I'm my own man and I don't follow orders from politicians.

I don't care about being challenged. It's apart of being on message boards. I just point out that you always challenge me even when you agree with me. There is definitely some "he's the "left" guy, so I can't agree with him" mindset going with you.

Every word in this post is wrong. I'm truly sorry for challenging you yet again...but again, all of the above is BS.

A. I'm not a politician.

B. I called it a woke bank not because it's a sentient being with progressive ideas of its own...rather because it's being run by woke individuals making woke choices. Derp.

C. If a bank is being run by MAGA folks making MAGA choices with investments while supporting MAGA movements, I have NF2G if you refer to it as a MAGA Bank.

D. Your ideas just always seem to match and mirror the marching orders from the left-wing media. That means you aren't really your own man, man.

E. You're going to have to toughen up buttercup. I don't challenge you on every topic. First off, I often don't bother. Other times I'm somewhat neutral and partially agree with you. Other times we actually agree. When I disagree, suck it up....because debate is what we do here.

I don't care how you feel about E. It's not my job to care about it. If this is too much for you, you have options.
 
There is no thing as a woke bank. You know it and I know it.
And thus we see the latest attempt at changing a topic that makes the left look bad.

The bank failed cause the dems running it prioritized being woke over being smart businesspeople. Simple as that.

As usual, the registered independent voter rushes in to White Knight for the left.
 
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Every word in this post is wrong. I'm truly sorry for challenging you yet again...but again, all of the above is BS.

A. I'm not a politician.

B. I called it a woke bank not because it's a sentient being with progressive ideas of its own...rather because it's being run by woke individuals making woke choices. Derp.

C. If a bank is being run by MAGA folks making MAGA choices with investments while supporting MAGA movements, I have NF2G if you refer to it as a MAGA Bank.

D. Your ideas just always seem to match and mirror the marching orders from the left-wing media. That means you aren't really your own man, man.

E. You're going to have to toughen up buttercup. I don't challenge you on every topic. First off, I often don't bother. Other times I'm somewhat neutral and partially agree with you. Other times we actually agree. When I disagree, suck it up....because debate is what we do here.

I don't care how you feel about E. It's not my job to care about it. If this is too much for you, you have options.
Naw.

1st, you didn't even call it a woke bank, NavigatorII did but you have defend everyone against me from some reason. I literally didn't even ask you 😉.

My ideas may match the left but you'll never see me using their stupid terms. MAGA Republicans was/is stupid to me.

It's not about being tough. I'm just calling you out, just like you try to call me out. Works both ways, my friend.

I'm in the lions den. So I get it, it's me against like 10 right wing guys. So 99% of what I say will be "inaccurate" or "wrong" and 99% of what you say will be "accurate" or "correct". I just you realized that it's not reality.
 
And you have a right to be protected from his opinions and his dissent of your opinions, right?

Grow up man...just freaking wow.
He called out my ego. I called out his but when I reply I need to grow up? 😂

Once again ANOTHER example of YOU defending people from me...I know Fatman can handle his own debates. He doesn't need your help. He definitely checked me before.

You definitely got a "protector" personality.
 
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I'm in the lions den. So I get it, it's me against like 10 right wing guys. So 99% of what I say will be "inaccurate" or "wrong" and 99% of what you say will be "accurate" or "correct". I just you realized that it's not reality.
You get replies because you make everything personal. You make everything personal because you cannot intelligently defend your positions.

Case in point, you don't like that SVB was called a 'woke' bank ITT. You don't like it cause that's what it is. And you don't like hearing that adopting woke policies can contribute to a business failing.

So you attempt to change the topic by focusing on the posters making the comments that offend you.

This leads to a lot more replies, BUT....we stopped talking about the role that a bank's woke policies contributed to its failure.

As a bonus, you get to play the victim cause all the mean ole right wingers are ganging up on you.
 
There is no thing as a woke bank. You know it and I know it. That would be like the left calling it a MAGA Bank. It's just stupid sayings by politicians. Unlike you guys, I'm my own man and I don't follow orders from politicians.

I don't care about being challenged. It's apart of being on message boards. I just point out that you always challenge me even when you agree with me. There is definitely some "he's the "left" guy, so I can't agree with him" mindset going with you.
 
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