you're joking but it's probably more real than we'd like it to be...
And so it begins...
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It would be awesome if everyone who voted for hiden were the only ones getting screwed. Unfortunately we are all f..ked!
#1 is the best. Pelosi knows all about that: "Obamacare, Well, we had to pass the bill to find out whats in the bill."
Unfortunately I have too...and I couldn't disagree more. His mind is failing him and this disease will speed up, not slow down.
I wish it wasn't so because, though I don't love Biden, he's a better alternative to me than Harris.
Depends on their current area of expertise. For example, I know a lot of chemical engineers who work in the oil/gas industry, maybe they can be retrained to work with other materials e.g. new battery materials. They can be given an option to get a government paid masters degree (usually 1-2 years). Construction workers can be offered training to build e.g. windmills rather than pipelines. Coal miners can be offered training in trades as e.g. plumbers or electricians. If they want to advance further in education, they should be given an opportunity to do so as well. If a highly motivated, high-school educated miner wants to be an engineer, for example, he can be offered an opportunity for a government subsidized college education at a participating college.
The transition needs to be an opportunity instead of a punishment. It's still up to them to take advantage such opportunities, but the government should make it easier for them to do so. What we did with globalization--"You lost your car plant job? Tough luck!", is only gonna lead to disaster.
What transition are you talking about? There is no viable replacement for oil right now. Until there is we are transitioning people to nothing but recommendations to code.
Lol. Where I come from, its coalmine or moonshine. You are making someone trying to make a honest living into something they didnt want to be. But they had no choice.
No big deal. All those oil and gas folks can just get liberal arts degrees or apparently engineering isn’t that hard according to some. They can just get engineering degrees for jobs that don’t exist anymore.
The first rule of dementia club is you don't talk about dementia club. You really expect us to believe either you or Biden have all of their faculties? 🤣
I laughed when I read that. He wants us to return to the Flintstones with Fred hoofing the Bedrock car.
The native Indians are pissed and about to file suit. Where is Sunburnt?
The libs have decimated the chemical industry in this country. I don't suspect that it will get better over the next 4 years.
Ironically the overregulation in this country moved the chemical industry to countries with no regulations whatsoever...and now we're safer???
Making batteries is a dirty business. Eventually we will abandon that endeavor as well.
Industries come and go all the time. The job of the society is to provide a way out for those who work in dying industries, not to force them to not die with those industries.
The first automobiles didn't replace all horses-drawn carriages right away, it'll take some time but it's inevitable. The transition is already happening, ignoring it won't make it go away.
It’s a much different story when you’re talking about horses to cars then you are oil to green energy.
How many items are made from petroleum? With these new lay offs coming, who’s going to pay their bills as they look for new jobs? Who’s going to pay for them to go back to school? Who’s going to feed their families?
These questions just scratch the surface, critically think about these questions. I know the answers, will you? If you do, then you’ll know how stupid your counter argument is.
This is such an elementary comparison. The automobile became cheaper over time and phasing out of horses for transportation was done through the market not government force. What alternative to fuel exists now that is ready to take over the market and supply enough energy to fuel our planes, cars, boats, homes, etc.?
Unless as a country are really going to dive into nuclear energy then the argument for solar, wind mills and batteries is moot. But go ahead lefties, continue to destroy our economy by slowly killing it off.
I never heard the story where, instead of relying upon free markets to decide, strong gov't intervention caused people to ditch their carriages for cars.
Please, go on.
This, this is a great answer. And one not enough people are talking about.
Biggest problem with nuclear is it takes a long time to build the infrastructure. But it solves a ton of issues, and assuming you can deal with the waste is clean AF.
The government will. That is, it'll fall to you and me.
The vast investments by the government in the industry during WWII as well as before and after in the interstate system greatly sped up the adoption of personal autos. I'm not looking for something unprecedented here. As investments are made in green tech and its supporting industries, we'll get to a point where alternatives are viable across the board in terms of fossil fuel as an energy source, and then we can allow market forces to entirely take over as well.
So if gas foes through the roof does anyone have a plan? I researched a bunch of stuff back when zer0 was prez.
Last night I revisited flex fuel vehicles. Here is an example of a conversion device. You can run up to E98
fuelflex.international
Sugar beets can yield 700 gal/acre of ethanol and are 2:1 output to input.
Adding 2% gas yields 7 cents a gallon if production is totally self sufficient except for the gas additive.
The distance is equiv to ~ 500 gal of gas
Of course you have to grow and process the stuff so what is you labor worth?
Last night I revisited flex fuel vehicles. Here is an example of a conversion device. You can run up to E98
Flex Fuel kit 6 Cylinders
Here is our ethanol box 6 cylinders. With it you'll be able to converte your vehicule
Sugar beets can yield 700 gal/acre of ethanol and are 2:1 output to input.
Adding 2% gas yields 7 cents a gallon if production is totally self sufficient except for the gas additive.
The distance is equiv to ~ 500 gal of gas
Of course you have to grow and process the stuff so what is you labor worth?
You do understand that letting the government lead the way on anything is and has always been catastrophic, right?
The government is currently (before the EOs) doing what it should. Incentivizing and subsidizing research and helping those that can afford the new tech to use it. Killing jobs in the name of transition with nothing to transition to is not going to speed anything up. The government’s job is to get the hell out of the way much like was done for the covid vaccine. Cut the unnecessary barriers if you want things to move faster.
Everyone is scared of Chernobyl but that was because Soviet government led tech was garbage. Japan had a meltdown just a few years ago. Only six people died... because they freaked out, fled the area, and got into car accidents due to the Chernobyl fear. Until the left understands and accepts that nuclear should be developed and built they are living in a fantasy future world their kids and grandkids will be lucky to live in the more they destroy the economy to get there.
I broadly agree with you on this. Most of the nuclear powerplants we have are really old tech, designed initially more as a more economic way to produce material for nuclear bombs than as safe and cost effective power generators. The 3rd generation nuclear power plants are much safer and more efficient, and the upcoming 4th gen will be even better. I think we absolutely should give a greater role to nuclear as well.
I think Elon Musk will figure out how to mine the sun, and all of our energy needs will. be met. Then, the Libtards will give it all away to in the name of energy equity. Spoiler alert.
Who wants it to go away? Answer...no one. We would like for the transition to be organic, however.
There wasn't a political movement to force horses and buggies out before the automobile industry was prepared to be a viable alternative.
If you aren't being dishonest with this crap then you are woefully misinformed.
