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And now we have proof US spies interfered in the 2020 election for Hiden against Trump

Anyone that is not brain challenged knew this. MSM, big tech, social media companies were ALL IN on this. And now their low character, POS followers do not seem to care. But those dolts do not believe in the "United States of America and her Constitution anyway
There was a time just a few years ago when we all understood that US spies interfering in a US election to help one candidate get elected over the other was wrong and detrimental to the health of the nation.

Now, the left sees no problem with it when their side does it. We've lost so much in just a generation.
 


Feels like the ship is starting to take on water.
So we have, in writing, proof that a Biden admin official intentionally lied to create a talking point for a national presidential debate?

@kalimgoodman - in the Tucker thread you had something important to say about "known liars", but I can't seem to remember what it was? I'm just wondering if telling "the truth" applies to both parties since you're an independent?
 


Feels like the ship is starting to take on water.
Still sticking’ with the “stolen” election thing, huh?

Ooookay….


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Anyone that is not brain challenged knew this. MSM, big tech, social media companies were ALL IN on this. And now their low character, POS followers do not seem to care. But those dolts do not believe in the "United States of America and her Constitution anyway
I recommend Rigged by Mollie Hemingway. Ms. Hemingway uses small words from the dominate West Germanic language (English). Pages 333-423 are Notes.

Biden couldn't draw flies to the rare campaign rally. Trump set a Republican incumbent record in votes in 2020. I recommend the documentary film 2000 Mules. Mark Zuckerberg spent $400 million on the 2020 election, mostly on drop boxes. STUFFED DROP BOXES.
 
Still sticking’ with the “stolen” election thing, huh?

Ooookay….


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So you're totally fine with former democrat Intel appointees working with campaign officials to create a talking point to deal with a pay-to-play scheme the Dem nominee and son were running specifically for a national Presidential debate?

You are a man of integrity if nothing else...
 


Feels like the ship is starting to take on water.
I may be 6 feet under before anything happens. Is there such a thing as a legal arrest? There's already so much stuff out there on Biden, the stolen elections, the many fraudulent lawsuits and justice has YET to be served. Then we have R congressmen cheering the exit of Tucker C. This has been (and to me still is) hopeless without the help of our Lord and Savior. Even Christian churches are presenting themselves as weak on woke. They are caving in to the societal changes that water down and/or completely denounce the Gospel of Jesus Christ. God help us all! To me, this will continue without resolve. It will strain American until there will be no recourse except for a powerful intervention from God Almighty. Many scoff at that notion, but when it happens, for many, it will be too late to admit wrongdoing. They would have already been turned over to a reprobate mind.
 
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How about rigged election or dirty trick election or completely unethical election? Any of those work? When one of the signers of the letter, Mike Morrell, admits the motivation for the letter being that they wanted Biden to win and give him a talking point during the last debate and you just throw that out as a nothing burger, then it isn't that you can't see the truth, you just don't want to.
Finally, I cannot say with 100% certainty that this letter and the Hunter Biden laptop coverup would have changed the election but what I can say with 100% certainly is that the dems did not want a fair election and must have been damn worried enough to not take the chance of a fair election.
Permission granted to put your head right back in the sand. I understand.
 
I may be 6 feet under before anything happens. Is there such a thing as a legal arrest? There's already so much stuff out there on Biden, the stolen elections, the many fraudulent lawsuits and justice has YET to be served. Then we have R congressmen cheering the exit of Tucker C. This has been (and to me still is) hopeless without the help of our Lord and Savior. Even Christian churches are presenting themselves as weak on woke. They are caving in to the societal changes that water down and/or completely denounce the Gospel of Jesus Christ. God help us all! To me, this will continue without resolve. It will strain American until there will be no recourse except for a powerful intervention from God Almighty. Many scoff at that notion, but when it happens, for many, it will be too late to admit wrongdoing. They would have already been turned over to a reprobate mind.
Did you see the Elijah Streams videos I linked to you in one of your other threads? I think you would enjoy them, they gave me a completely new perspective on what is happening in the world right now.
 
How about rigged election or dirty trick election or completely unethical election? Any of those work? When one of the signers of the letter, Mike Morrell, admits the motivation for the letter being that they wanted Biden to win and give him a talking point during the last debate and you just throw that out as a nothing burger, then it isn't that you can't see the truth, you just don't want to.
Finally, I cannot say with 100% certainty that this letter and the Hunter Biden laptop coverup would have changed the election but what I can say with 100% certainly is that the dems did not want a fair election and must have been damn worried enough to not take the chance of a fair election.
Permission granted to put your head right back in the sand. I understand.
This is why I keep saying if DeSantis and Trump team up, we can forget there being an election in 2024. The left will find a way to stop it cause they know they can't cheat their way out of that ticket being on the ballot.
 
This is why I keep saying if DeSantis and Trump team up, we can forget there being an election in 2024. The left will find a way to stop it cause they know they can't cheat their way out of that ticket being on the ballot.

If you're correct then this should absolutely be the goal. To draw them out and nail their...umm...backsides...in that attempt.

Yes, I know we have seen it before. But I believe that we would be better positioned to collect evidence if it happened in this election.

IF it happens in this election, and IF obvious proof is ignored and swept under the rug and IF a party is allowed to steal an election unequivocally, then we would absolutely be positioned to take action up to, and including, the divorce that many have spoken of.
 
There was a time just a few years ago when we all understood that US spies interfering in a US election to help one candidate get elected over the other was wrong and detrimental to the health of the nation.

Now, the left sees no problem with it when their side does it. We've lost so much in just a generation.
2016 ruined it for me. I knew the FBI was involved then. After hearing Brennan, and Clapper...I knew the others were also
 
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How about rigged election or dirty trick election or completely unethical election? Any of those work? When one of the signers of the letter, Mike Morrell, admits the motivation for the letter being that they wanted Biden to win and give him a talking point during the last debate and you just throw that out as a nothing burger, then it isn't that you can't see the truth, you just don't want to.
Finally, I cannot say with 100% certainty that this letter and the Hunter Biden laptop coverup would have changed the election but what I can say with 100% certainly is that the dems did not want a fair election and must have been damn worried enough to not take the chance of a fair election.
Permission granted to put your head right back in the sand. I understand.
great post
 
So we have, in writing, proof that a Biden admin official intentionally lied to create a talking point for a national presidential debate?

@kalimgoodman - in the Tucker thread you had something important to say about "known liars", but I can't seem to remember what it was? I'm just wondering if telling "the truth" applies to both parties since you're an independent?
Biden was president then?
 
Well thought out and informative response, as always.

But it does confirm if the Left lies, you think nothing of it. A conservative talk show host? Throw him to the wolves.

Not how I'd expect an "Independent" to act.
It doesn't confirm anything.
 
*Biden campaign official

Way to point out a technicality to avoid the broader issue. Trolling 101.
I'll never understand why the libs love trolling. I don't see the appeal. I get arguing about a hotly contested topic, that's fun in doses.

But simply lying to spark a reaction, I've never understood the appeal. But almost every lib I've ever encountered on every board does it.
 
*Biden campaign official

Way to point out a technicality to avoid the broader issue. Trolling 101.
Private citizen vs president makes a great difference. You guys like to make it seem he was President then to make his administration look corrupt. It matters.

FYI, all campaigns try to spin narratives. You can go back to like the 50s and from the presidential campaigns to local superintendents. Narrative matters.
 
You literally had US intelligence agencies lying to influence an election. The onus is on them, 100%. This one is not on Biden, it's on the corruption of the Deep State. Are you seriously this dense? 😂 Every one of them needs to be locked up in prison for election interference.
Ex intelligence?
 
What's the crime?
Falsifying evidence to influence a Presidential election.

New Testimony Reveals Secretary Blinken and Biden Campaign Behind the Infamous Public Statement on the Hunter Biden Laptop​

WASHINGTON, D.C. – New testimony by Michael Morell, a former Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and one of the 51 signatories of the “Public Statement on the Hunter Biden Emails,” revealed that U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, then senior advisor to the Biden campaign, was the impetus of the public statement signed in October 2020 that falsely implied the New York Post’s reporting about Hunter Biden was the product of Russian disinformation. In response, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner (R-OH) just sent a letter to Secretary Blinken demanding documents and communications related to the Committees’ investigation.

Based on Morell’s testimony, it is apparent that the Biden campaign played an active role in the origins of the public statement, which had the effect of helping to suppress the Hunter Biden story and preventing American citizens from making a fully informed decision during the 2020 presidential election. Although the statement’s signatories have an unquestioned right to free speech and free association—which we do not dispute—their reference to their national security credentials lent weight to the story and suggested access to specialized information unavailable to other Americans. This concerted effort to minimize and suppress public dissemination of the serious allegations about the Biden family was a grave disservice to all American citizens’ informed participation in our democracy.

 
How about rigged election or dirty trick election or completely unethical election? Any of those work? When one of the signers of the letter, Mike Morrell, admits the motivation for the letter being that they wanted Biden to win and give him a talking point during the last debate and you just throw that out as a nothing burger, then it isn't that you can't see the truth, you just don't want to.
Finally, I cannot say with 100% certainty that this letter and the Hunter Biden laptop coverup would have changed the election but what I can say with 100% certainly is that the dems did not want a fair election and must have been damn worried enough to not take the chance of a fair election.
Permission granted to put your head right back in the sand. I understand.
When what you mention above coupled with big tech, social media and MSM and the FBI put their foot on the scale. I CSN say for sure if everyone knew Biden was a sellout, they could not have stolen the election as easily
 
I'll never understand why the libs love trolling. I don't see the appeal. I get arguing about a hotly contested topic, that's fun in doses.

But simply lying to spark a reaction, I've never understood the appeal. But almost every lib I've ever encountered on every board does it.
Father of lies...
 
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