Aaron Hernandez Netflix special

[PlutoDroid]

Has anybody watched it ? I just did, it seemed to mostly cover his feelings as a "closet dwelling man". Very little about his time in Gainesville other than his recruitment , and rooming with Tim Tebow. . They were trying to shape the narrative around him being gay, and cte causing him issues. Plus his dad being a very abusive , and demanding authority figure.

 

[GatorNation79]

I watched it...they did heavy on the gay thing. There were a few things I didn't know but most of it I did.

 

[PlutoDroid]

I watched it...they did heavy on the gay thing. There were a few things I didn't know but most of it I did.

I found the prison phone calls to his mother interesting. He seemed to blame her for many of his issues.

 

[GatorNation79]

I found the prison phone calls to his mother interesting. He seemed to blame her for many of his issues.

I thought the calls were weird...you're in prison for Murder and laughing like you're in the Bahamas and nothing is going on. I get that you got to try and stay positive and not get too down but it was strange.

 

[PlutoDroid]

I thought the calls were weird...you're in prison for Murder and laughing like you're in the Bahamas and nothing is going on. I get that you got to try and stay positive and not get too down but it was strange.

I think it's difficult to understand the psyche of an individual like that. He had the whole world, had everything most of us seek. But he just couldn't stay out of that thug lifestyle he coveted. Plus you know murdering somebody , and then going home with your fellow murderers and playing with your child like it didn't happen was odd.

 

[fsu939913]

Has anybody watched it ? I just did, it seemed to mostly cover his feelings as a "closet dwelling man". Very little about his time in Gainesville other than his recruitment , and rooming with Tim Tebow. . They were trying to shape the narrative around him being gay, and cte causing him issues. Plus his dad being a very abusive , and demanding authority figure.

I think childhood abuse, his mom, being bi (he wasnt gay he liked women but he liked men as well), CTE, death of his dad, etc... All caused him to be a murderering psychopath. I think most Gator fans are worried that it looks bad on UF but to be honest unless people knew and covered it up, this guy could have ended up at any school. I dont blame the Gators, he was a psycho

 

[GatorNation79]

I think childhood abuse, his mom, being bi (he wasnt gay he liked women but he liked men as well), CTE, death of his dad, etc... All caused him to be a murderering psychopath. I think most Gator fans are worried that it looks bad on UF but to be honest unless people knew and covered it up, this guy could have ended up at any school. I dont blame the Gators, he was a psycho

Any child who is abused (probably) sexually screws them up for life. I like my share of porn but when 99% of them were sexually abused as a child tells you something. Maybe it was just physical...I don't care care the gay stuff...but yeah murdering other people is a different thing.

 

[Justpeachy7]

I found the prison phone calls to his mother interesting. He seemed to blame her for many of his issues.

I haven't seen it, but I have heard that. From what I read, she was very dismissive of accepting any responsibility.

I'm not sure to what extent he was blaming her.


I dont know a ton on his situation, but I found it interesting that Gronk was getting emotional during an interview when asked a question about Hernandez. You can literally see the tears in his eyes. It probably just goes to show that despite the issues with AH, he was able to hide it enough to make some bonds with people.

 

[PlutoDroid]

I haven't seen it, but I have heard that. From what I read, she was very dismissive of accepting any responsibility.

I'm not sure to what extent he was blaming her.


I dont know a ton on his situation, but I found it interesting that Gronk was getting emotional during an interview when asked a question about Hernandez. You can literally see the tears in his eyes. It probably just goes to show that despite the issues with AH, he was able to hide it enough to make some bonds with people.

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I never saw that Gronk clip before. It's sad because I think Hernandez had a support system in place if he had chosen to use it, but he just couldn't outrun his demons. My sympathies go to his family, and the families of his victims. Ultimately Aaron chose the wrong path, that's on him.

 

[PlutoDroid]

I think childhood abuse, his mom, being bi (he wasnt gay he liked women but he liked men as well), CTE, death of his dad, etc... All caused him to be a murderering psychopath. I think most Gator fans are worried that it looks bad on UF but to be honest unless people knew and covered it up, this guy could have ended up at any school. I dont blame the Gators, he was a psycho

I didn't use to believe in what I called "psychobabble" as a teenager and very young adult. As a child of divorced parents my mom made me see a counselor because she thought I was affected. Mostly I just brushed off the guy, my younger sister had to see him, but my older one didn't. Beside the point. I had a grandmother that suffered schizophrenia and the cure for her when she was initially diagnosed in her late 30s was electric shock therapy. Then they just medicated her into submission to control her tantrums.

Now as I sit in my early thirties and having seen guys suffer from PTSD after serving in Kuwait, and having a couple girlfriends go through panic attacks , I firmly believe in mental issues. They can cause hardships, poor decisions, and alter your life. My niece who is almost 18 just told me she was sexually assaulted prior to age 10. The perpetrator was her former adopted older stepbrother. He himself had been sexually molested before being adopted. Now she has severe anxiety and attends school online.

How many excuses can we make? How healthy is it to shelter and excuse the poor behaviour of former victims? Because in my eyes the cycle of abuse continues as long as we absolve bad behavior on account of past trauma. There comes a point where we all know what is right, what is wrong. If we excuse victim 5 of all their bad actions because of their abuse , we are creating victims 6,7 and 8. Support them yes, but don't give them free passes.

 

[GatorNation79]

I didn't use to believe in what I called "psychobabble" as a teenager and very young adult. As a child of divorced parents my mom made me see a counselor because she thought I was affected. Mostly I just brushed off the guy, my younger sister had to see him, but my older one didn't. Beside the point. I had a grandmother that suffered schizophrenia and the cure for her when she was initially diagnosed in her late 30s was electric shock therapy. Then they just medicated her into submission to control her tantrums.

Now as I sit in my early thirties and having seen guys suffer from PTSD after serving in Kuwait, and having a couple girlfriends go through panic attacks , I firmly believe in mental issues. They can cause hardships, poor decisions, and alter your life. My niece who is almost 18 just told me she was sexually assaulted prior to age 10. The perpetrator was her former adopted older stepbrother. He himself had been sexually molested before being adopted. Now she has severe anxiety and attends school online.

How many excuses can we make? How healthy is it to shelter and excuse the poor behaviour of former victims? Because in my eyes the cycle of abuse continues as long as we absolve bad behavior on account of past trauma. There comes a point where we all know what is right, what is wrong. If we excuse victim 5 of all their bad actions because of their abuse , we are creating victims 6,7 and 8. Support them yes, but don't give them free passes.

There is no doubt in my mind that AH had mental health issues. It seemed to me that there were 2 AH's...1 who was very likable friendly and kind...another one who was physically violent. Sad story...guy had it all.

 

[Justpeachy7]

I didn't use to believe in what I called "psychobabble" as a teenager and very young adult. As a child of divorced parents my mom made me see a counselor because she thought I was affected. Mostly I just brushed off the guy, my younger sister had to see him, but my older one didn't. Beside the point. I had a grandmother that suffered schizophrenia and the cure for her when she was initially diagnosed in her late 30s was electric shock therapy. Then they just medicated her into submission to control her tantrums.

Now as I sit in my early thirties and having seen guys suffer from PTSD after serving in Kuwait, and having a couple girlfriends go through panic attacks , I firmly believe in mental issues. They can cause hardships, poor decisions, and alter your life. My niece who is almost 18 just told me she was sexually assaulted prior to age 10. The perpetrator was her former adopted older stepbrother. He himself had been sexually molested before being adopted. Now she has severe anxiety and attends school online.

How many excuses can we make? How healthy is it to shelter and excuse the poor behaviour of former victims? Because in my eyes the cycle of abuse continues as long as we absolve bad behavior on account of past trauma. There comes a point where we all know what is right, what is wrong. If we excuse victim 5 of all their bad actions because of their abuse , we are creating victims 6,7 and 8. Support them yes, but don't give them free passes.

You bring up some good points. For me, the question is "How capable was he to make a correct choice?"

It was probably less than a regular person's ability to choose. I'm not going to say his actions should be excused, but I do think the all the name calling, hate,...and dismissive attitude to a very real medical issue is disheartening. It's a shame that many people are quick to condemn, but slow to consider underlining factors and a possibility that it was something he couldn't control.

 

[PlutoDroid]

There is no doubt in my mind that AH had mental health issues. It seemed to me that there were 2 AH's...1 who was very likable friendly and kind...another one who was physically violent. Sad story...guy had it all.

Tragic really. We have medicine, and surgeries to correct physical deformities, and illnesseses. We don't have anything to cure diseases of the mind though.

 

[PlutoDroid]

You bring up some good points. For me, the question is "How capable was he to make a correct choice?"

It was probably less than a regular person's ability to choose. I'm not going to say his actions should be excused, but I do think the all the name calling, hate,...and dismissive attitude to a very real medical issue is disheartening. It's a shame that many people are quick to condemn, but slow to consider underlining factors and a possibility that it was something he couldn't control.

There is truly a fine line between nurturing , and enabling . You can't just openly dismiss somebody with emotional trauma, or mental instability. That leads to suppression, rage, and depression . You can't excuse negative behaviours either . That leads to a feeling the individual never growing up, never owning up to their own faults. Everything has a reason, every bad action is due to an inherent disability . Victimology 101. It's tough to really speak on how to deal with real emotional , or mental sickness because it isn't obvious . Cancer, aids, a pimple, a scar, being overweight , really anything we can see is easy to set a treatment to cure what we don't want. How can one cure PTSD? How can you attack a panic attack, depression, uncontrollable rage? We can diagnose , and set up sessions to help see the onset of it, but stopping it completely has alluded us. It's a hidden epidemic , some of us may have it in us and never know.

 

[GatorNation79]

You bring up some good points. For me, the question is "How capable was he to make a correct choice?"

It was probably less than a regular person's ability to choose. I'm not going to say his actions should be excused, but I do think the all the name calling, hate,...and dismissive attitude to a very real medical issue is disheartening. It's a shame that many people are quick to condemn, but slow to consider underlining factors and a possibility that it was something he couldn't control.

He seemed to be doing better when he got to Boston but obviously other things were going on. I could care less about smoking weed and stuff but murdering people is an issue to say the least.