A veteran's statement following the passing of the PACT Act.

[hmcmg8r]

I'm not a fan of Jon Stewart. Never have been. I just don't see eye to eye with him and don't find his humor humorous. But I'm glad he stuck by my brothers and sisters in need. Jon did the right thing.
Veterans organizations also did the right thing. So proud of our VFW national legislative staff for providing a catalyst for action and being an active part of crafting this bill, and once it stalled...for sending out a call to arms for our membership to walk LOUDLY with a big stick.
I'm a Republican. Right of center, but not so far as to be blinded to various causes. I'm pretty embarrassed by those 26 senators who flipped twice in a space of less than a month and with essentially zero changes to the bill being contested.
There are four ways you can act.
1. Do the right thing for the right reason. Yes, this depends on some interpretations, but basically it's always the best choice.
2. Do the wrong thing for the right reason. In other words, fail to make a hard choice that's the right thing because you fear that someone might get hurt. Sometimes this causes more harm down the road.
3. Do the right thing for the wrong reason. Yeah, this is much of the political game. We'll vote for a bill as long as it's got the pork in it for my constituency. It gets us what we want, but we come away feeling dirty.
4. Do the wrong thing for the wrong reason. NEVER the right choice. And any explanation is so easily dismissed that the "wrong" is obvious. So obvious that it's transparent. Like voting FOR a bill to help veterans exposed to hazardous chemicals get the care they require because YOU sent them in harm's way, then voting AGAINST the bill because you got a toe stomped on by an unrelated vote on an unrelated bill and now you're gonna hold it hostage.
Moving from a "4" to a "3" by flipping and once again voting FOR the bill doesn't mitigate the damage. It doesn't restore trust. We know it's the political game, but THIS time the game was pointed right at one of your base constituencies...those who volunteered to wear your threads in lands far away doing dangerous things in dangerous conditions.
Does this change how I'll vote? No. But you (RNC) probably already know that. I vote based on issues, not emotions. But to the 26 senators who embarrassed themselves and their party TWICE on ONE bill...shame. Never, ever play this game with our veterans again.
Never.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...Ep_OAPJYmMAeQjDAoU04lBO8HOcKvxFm4bC4_L5783gfQ

 

[NavigatorII]

Discretionary vs mandatory spending. The Pantsshitter is already trying to raid funds from the VA to the illegals at the border. Enough explanation here. Stop believing fake news. USA Today has become the Pravda.

 

[hmcmg8r]

Discretionary vs mandatory spending. The Pantsshitter is already trying to raid funds from the VA to the illegals at the border. Enough explanation here. Stop believing fake news. USA Today has become the Pravda.

Wrong answer. Veteran's orgs are strong on this one and our lobbies on the hill have been fighting hard. I didn't get the news from USA Today...only used it to date/time the passing of the bill. I got the actual news from our VFW national legislative office, not some liberal rag. Here's a question for you...can you tell me what substantial changes were made to the bill so the 26 would now change their votes to pass it?

None. The timing was obvious. They were pissed that Manchin flipped his take on that ridiculous "inflation reduction" bill. Had nothing to do with pork (there's none), nothing to do with $400b going to unrelated items (there's not), and had nothing to do with POTUS shifting dollars to the border. Read the bill. Here's a copy. BTW...Sec. 703 might interest you.

And if POTUS raids funds, that will be exposed. There are plenty of folks waiting in line to take this doofus down another notch.

Do you know any veterans who are waiting for care on problems related to burn pit exposures, contaminations such as those at Lejeune, etc? Have you worked with veterans who are suffering from Parkinson's, diabetes, or various cancers due to AO exposure in SE Asia? I have. I do.

 

[NavigatorII]

Wrong answer. Veteran's orgs are strong on this one and our lobbies on the hill have been fighting hard. I didn't get the news from USA Today...only used it to date/time the passing of the bill. I got the actual news from our VFW national legislative office, not some liberal rag. Here's a question for you...can you tell me what substantial changes were made to the bill so the 26 would now change their votes to pass it?

None. The timing was obvious. They were pissed that Manchin flipped his take on that ridiculous "inflation reduction" bill. Had nothing to do with pork (there's none), nothing to do with $400b going to unrelated items (there's not), and had nothing to do with POTUS shifting dollars to the border. Read the bill. Here's a copy. BTW...Sec. 703 might interest you.

And if POTUS raids funds, that will be exposed. There are plenty of folks waiting in line to take this doofus down another notch.

Do you know any veterans who are waiting for care on problems related to burn pit exposures, contaminations such as those at Lejeune, etc? Have you worked with veterans who are suffering from Parkinson's, diabetes, or various cancers due to AO exposure in SE Asia? I have. I do.

The short answer is this administration has carte blanche to raid the fund for whatever woke feels good purpose they want to. Why else was the bill well received until more strings were attached to it?

The Senate originally voted to pass the measure on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 84-14 basis in June but needed to revote on the measure after the U.S. House made a technical change to it.

“We want to make sure the PACT Act is not used as a vehicle to dramatically increase spending outside of the objective of the bill, which is to cover specific health care and benefits for veterans,” Mr. Toomey said last week.

You seem reasonable. You really trust China Joe, the Pantshitter in Chief to not give this to illegals as well?

 

[hmcmg8r]

The short answer is this administration has carte blanche to raid the fund for whatever woke feels good purpose they want to. Why else was the bill well received until more strings were attached to it?

The Senate originally voted to pass the measure on an overwhelmingly bipartisan 84-14 basis in June but needed to revote on the measure after the U.S. House made a technical change to it.

“We want to make sure the PACT Act is not used as a vehicle to dramatically increase spending outside of the objective of the bill, which is to cover specific health care and benefits for veterans,” Mr. Toomey said last week.

You seem reasonable. You really trust China Joe, the Pantshitter in Chief to not give this to illegals as well?

I don't for a second believe that the "technical change" caused the shift in votes. Toomey bitched about the bill on June 23 and no one cared until Manchin flipped on the other spending bill on July 27?

Passing the bill and POTUS being a POS are two totally separate issues.

 

[NavigatorII]

I don't for a second believe that the "technical change" caused the shift in votes. Toomey bitched about the bill on June 23 and no one cared until Manchin flipped on the other spending bill on July 27?

Passing the bill and POTUS being a POS are two totally separate issues.

Welcome to reality.
This POS president (little p) and his clown bus can't be trusted. They were already talking about redirecting veterans fund to the illegals last month. You really think these funds won't be scammed and redirected as well? There's a big fuss over mandatory and discretionary. You do know the difference right?

 

[jfegaly]

I don't for a second believe that the "technical change" caused the shift in votes. Toomey bitched about the bill on June 23 and no one cared until Manchin flipped on the other spending bill on July 27?

Passing the bill and POTUS being a POS are two totally separate issues.

Now if we can just get all the benefits back that are being lost under joey bribes. Let’s start with tinnitus and sleep apnea. Then let’s ask the VSO’s if proposals to reduce individuals benefits have increased under this administration. Lastly, let’s find out if time to resolve VA disability claims have increased under this administration.

This administration has been dog shit to veterans. I speak from experience from multiple directions.

This Bill you speak of, passage was/is always imminent. Both sides were playing politics. Period.

 

[NavigatorII]

Now if we can just get all the benefits back that are being lost under joey bribes. Let’s start with tinnitus and sleep apnea. Then let’s ask the VSO’s if proposals to reduce individuals benefits have increased under this administration. Lastly, let’s find out if time to resolve VA disability claims have increased under this administration.

This administration has been dog shit to veterans. I speak from experience from multiple directions.

To be fair to the Pantsshitter it didn't start with Poopy Pants. Trump tried to improve things with the VA that Obummer screwed the pooch with them. A friend of mine told me the VA was the most inept agency he ever worked for when he worked there. That was Obummer's legacy, not Trump's.

 

[jfegaly]

To be fair to the Pantsshitter it didn't start with Poopy Pants. Trump tried to improve things with the VA that Obummer screwed the pooch with them. A friend of mine told me the VA was the most inept agency he ever worked for when he worked there. That was Obummer's legacy, not Trump's.

Believe it or not, alot of things got better under Trump. They are horrendous currently. All that said, I tell everyone I can. You want Government run healthcare? Come spend a few weeks with me, and visit some of the inner city VA hospitals.

MFers will be begging to privatize everything, like….yesterday damnit!

 

[kalimgoodman]

Discretionary vs mandatory spending. The Pantsshitter is already trying to raid funds from the VA to the illegals at the border. Enough explanation here. Stop believing fake news. USA Today has become the Pravda.

But the same people who voted against it just voted for it without changes. You can't be that partisan to always defend your party. You are better than that. The clearly voted no for payback and it backfired.

 

[jfegaly]

But the same people who voted against it just voted for it without changes. You can't be that partisan to always defend your party. You are better than that. The clearly voted no for payback and it backfired.

Well, a true name non partisan would be calling out Biden for the things I mentionec above. He is a POS.

also…..

After Much Drama and Delays, Senate Passes PACT Act for Veteran Burn Pit Victims

townhall.com

I swear folks. At least have the discussion honestly. Putting BS spending on the backs of veterans, in the name of veterans help is disgusting.

 

[jfegaly]

As I stated earlier. Both parties were playing politics with something they shouldn’t have. Coming in this forum and pointing fingers at just Republicans is what allows these shenanigans to continue. This article addresses it pretty even hand-idly IMO.

Port: Why did Democrats have to lard up the PACT act with a discretionary spending change in the first place?

If this bill is so blindingly necessary, if it's so urgent that Jon Stewart must stand before news media cameras and curse Republicans, why not just take the change in discretionary spending out of the bill, and pass the $280 billion in funding for veterans exposed to toxic burn pits?

www.inforum.com

 

[NavigatorII]

As I stated earlier. Both parties were playing politics with something they shouldn’t have. Coming in this forum and pointing fingers at just Republicans is what allows these shenanigans to continue. This article addresses it pretty even hand-idly IMO.

Port: Why did Democrats have to lard up the PACT act with a discretionary spending change in the first place?

If this bill is so blindingly necessary, if it's so urgent that Jon Stewart must stand before news media cameras and curse Republicans, why not just take the change in discretionary spending out of the bill, and pass the $280 billion in funding for veterans exposed to toxic burn pits?

www.inforum.com

It's really simple. Dimtards wanted to fund this knowing full well they could shift funds to whatever woke cause (say illegals?) and do it without anybody to stop it. They got their hands caught in the cookie jar and cried foul! Eff them. Dimtards can burn in hell.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Well, a true name non partisan would be calling out Biden for the things I mentionec above. He is a POS.

also…..

After Much Drama and Delays, Senate Passes PACT Act for Veteran Burn Pit Victims

townhall.com

I swear folks. At least have the discussion honestly. Putting BS spending on the backs of veterans, in the name of veterans help is disgusting.

So they still voted and passed it this week? What changed, besides the date?

 

[Orangeclad]

But the same people who voted against it just voted for it without changes. You can't be that partisan to always defend your party. You are better than that. The clearly voted no for payback and it backfired.

Why don't YOU ever call out the dems or Biden for things they do? That's rhetorical because we all know why. Your roots are pure blue. But YOU ARE that partisan to always defend YOUR party so please don't be a hypocrite and lecture others.

 

[Mdfgator]

Why don't YOU ever call out the dems or Biden for things they do? That's rhetorical because we all know why. Your roots are pure blue. But YOU ARE that partisan to always defend YOUR party so please don't be a hypocrite and lecture others.

thats not whats really needed on this board, whts needed is that the trupanzees start self critiquing. there is plenty of whining about the liberals.

 

[BayouGator1995]

Discretionary vs mandatory spending. The Pantsshitter is already trying to raid funds from the VA to the illegals at the border. Enough explanation here. Stop believing fake news. USA Today has become the Pravda.

USA Today has become Entertainment Tonight!😂

 

[BayouGator1995]

But the same people who voted against it just voted for it without changes. You can't be that partisan to always defend your party. You are better than that. The clearly voted no for payback and it backfired.

As always you either don't get it or troll for shits-&-giggles. Discretionary spending....THE biggest clue right here. Taking money from the VA and giving it to the likes of broke-ass BLM, ANTIFA/LGBTQXYZ types. Where else would the money go? It's modified theft if you ask me. Your Demo-Communist Party is a cartel of criminals hell-bent on destroying our country at all costs. Even if it means stealing money from the VA, aborting babies, stealing elections, imploding our borders, appointing people to power positions who can't define what a woman is.....

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Durifish...I am glad the bill was passed also. However, knowing from my long time on this earth, and following politics as closely as I have for 5 decades....I will not give ANY credit to democrats..or the huge pile of dung Jon Stewart. Jon MAY have had SOME good intentions...the dims DO NOT, and never have concerning our military. I DO care why it was passed, because at no time in my memory have democrats ever done something because they believed it was "the right thing to do" for our military. They have an AGENDA, and this, during a time they are cratering in every poll, they all of a sudden supposedly care about our fighting men and women. Where was Jon Stewart when Hussein THRASHED military spending leaving our Nation weaker, and Veterans suffering because of poor healthcare options?
I will never in my life forgive these unamerican people for spitting on our men as they returned from Vietnam, and for calling them "baby killers" while they were getting shot at. For visiting the enemy and comforting and consoling them, for our liberal press to make our mission harder, costing more American lives. I just cannot, and never will forget who they really are. It is very disingenuous for anyone to do so.

I respect your service, and your opinion. I am married to a retired Veteran, and live next to 3 major military bases, and have my whole life. My circle of friends ALL have deep ties to our military. The fact of the matter is....if the left would have allowed Ronald Reagans "line item veto" back in the 80's, things like this would never happen, and our deficit would be 1/4th of what it is today. Again, God bless you and your family for doing so much for the rest of us that allows us to be free!

 

[Capt Ron 1]

And not to lose sight..THIS is why the Republicans did not fully support the bill...and I 100% agree with them. However, people like Jon Stewart blew the lid off of this, and the left will have there way to waste even more money like they ALWAYS do. To me, they should not have caved so fast, and demanded this be taken care of. I never want to look at my personal needs, and put them square above what is good for our Country.


One Republican leadership aide told Fox News Digital that there is a "simple fix" to move the bill forward – remove the "budget gimmick" that would allow the $400 billion in unrelated spending, and transfer it into the "discretionary" spending category while only allowing new spending resulting directly from the bill.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Now if we can just get all the benefits back that are being lost under joey bribes. Let’s start with tinnitus and sleep apnea. Then let’s ask the VSO’s if proposals to reduce individuals benefits have increased under this administration. Lastly, let’s find out if time to resolve VA disability claims have increased under this administration.

This administration has been dog shit to veterans. I speak from experience from multiple directions.

This Bill you speak of, passage was/is always imminent. Both sides were playing politics. Period.

No democrat administration has ever cared about the military. And most of these guys know that, because they suffered under them while they were in the service. There are VERY good reasons that over 70% of the military vote Red. I truly do not understand why it is not closer to 90%

 

[Capt Ron 1]

So they still voted and passed it this week? What changed, besides the date?

Dim wits did a good job of making the republicans look like chit, so that they can control the money, and give it all away so they can line their pockets.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Well, a true name non partisan would be calling out Biden for the things I mentionec above. He is a POS.

also…..

After Much Drama and Delays, Senate Passes PACT Act for Veteran Burn Pit Victims

townhall.com

I swear folks. At least have the discussion honestly. Putting BS spending on the backs of veterans, in the name of veterans help is disgusting.

Could not agree more. It angers me that all of a sudden...democrat "care" about anyone in the military. They dislke our military...and HATE police. They have for decades

 

[Capt Ron 1]

thats not whats really needed on this board, whts needed is that the trupanzees start self critiquing. there is plenty of whining about the liberals.

How does that BS work for CNN, MSNBC and all the other snowflake news outlets? Seems most are about to go out of business.

 

[Mdfgator]

How does that BS work for CNN, MSNBC and all the other snowflake news outlets? Seems most are about to go out of business.

You’re clearly triggered by the news, it’s biased to the left for the most part. Two wrongs do not make a right, this board is comically biased. Comically.

 

[jfegaly]

So they still voted and passed it this week? What changed, besides the date?

Neither you, nor @hmcmg8r read the article or followed what happened with the legislation I guess. Maybe too much mainstream media and Jon Stewart for you both of you? I guess I will quote what happened since neither of you wants to do your own, independent, research.

What happened you ask? Negotiations happened, just like they do on every bill. Concessions were made by Chucky to at least hold a vote on amendments to the bill proposed by Toomey and Rand Paul.

From the article:


“It was announced earlier on Tuesday that Leader Schumer and Senate Republicans had come to an agreement.

Part of the agreement involved voting on amendments from Sen. Toomey and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), which needed 60 votes to pass, though they failed.

As the bill passed the U.S. House of Representatives last month, it's now headed to President Joe Biden, who is expected to sign it into law.

What you should really be asking is….If dems, and you, feel this veteran funding was so important…..then why not just pass it with the 280 billion that was for burn pit victims. Dems could have pulled out the 400 billion in “discretionary spending” at anytime. They refused. So, was this really about the 280 billion for the burn pit victims, or the 400 billion for dems to use on other stuff?

That 400 billion, could have been debated separately., in a separate bill. Yet the media is telling y’all be mad at pubs. I swear, some folks live to be hoodwinked by the media.

This was about dems, using politics, to get themselves 400 billion to spend. Bunch of crooks.

Dems don’t give a rats ass about vets. If they did, they wouldn’t pull these shenanigans, nor allow the bs I mentioned earlier.

 

[BayouGator1995]

You’re clearly triggered by the news, it’s biased to the left for the most part. Two wrongs do not make a right, this board is comically biased. Comically.

And people like YOU are the laughing-stock that keeps on giving😂

 

[Capt Ron 1]

You’re clearly triggered by the news, it’s biased to the left for the most part. Two wrongs do not make a right, this board is comically biased. Comically.

Only little sissy lefties get triggered, son. Quit trying to cast your unmanly shadow..it is very unbecoming...

 

[jfegaly]

It's really simple. Dimtards wanted to fund this knowing full well they could shift funds to whatever woke cause (say illegals?) and do it without anybody to stop it. They got their hands caught in the cookie jar and cried foul! Eff them. Dimtards can burn in hell.

Bingo!

 

[NavigatorII]

thats not whats really needed on this board, whts needed is that the trupanzees start self critiquing. there is plenty of whining about the liberals.

How about you list anything positive Poopy Pants has done. If that were all that was discussed, this place would shut it's doors, ghost town. No posts per day. The hell raising won't end until these turds are voted out, or led out in handcuffs. Either way I'm fine with.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Neither you, nor @hmcmg8r read the article or followed what happened with the legislation I guess. Maybe too much mainstream media and Jon Stewart for you both of you? I guess I will quote what happened since neither of you wants to do your own, independent, research.

What happened you ask? Negotiations happened, just like they do on every bill. Concessions were made by Chucky to at least hold a vote on amendments to the bill proposed by Toomey and Rand Paul.

From the article:


“It was announced earlier on Tuesday that Leader Schumer and Senate Republicans had come to an agreement.

Part of the agreement involved voting on amendments from Sen. Toomey and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), which needed 60 votes to pass, though they failed.

As the bill passed the U.S. House of Representatives last month, it's now headed to President Joe Biden, who is expected to sign it into law.

What you should really be asking is….If dems, and you, feel this veteran funding was so important…..then why not just pass it with the 280 billion that was for burn pit victims. Dems could have pulled out the 400 billion in “discretionary spending” at anytime. They refused. So, was this really about the 280 billion for the burn pit victims, or the 400 billion for dems to use on other stuff?

That 400 billion, could have been debated separately., in a separate bill. Yet the media is telling y’all be mad at pubs. I swear, some folks live to be hoodwinked by the media.

This was about dems, using politics, to get themselves 400 billion to spend. Bunch of crooks.

Dems don’t give a rats ass about vets. If they did, they wouldn’t pull these shenanigans, nor allow the bs I mentioned earlier.

This is why I posted that our Countries best interest ALWAYS Trumps any individuals, or groups(even our most beloved Veterans) necessities....

 

[Capt Ron 1]

How about you list anything positive Poopy Pants has done. If that were all that was discussed, this place would shut it's doors, ghost town. No posts per day. The hell raising won't end until these turds are voted out, or led out in handcuffs. Either way I'm fine with.

You must LOVE their favorite hit song..CRICKETS!!

 

[jfegaly]

This is why I posted that our Countries best interest ALWAYS Trumps any individuals, or groups(even our most beloved Veterans) necessities....

Politicians using vets to line their pockets. It’s disgusting. Same vets were already used, so eff them for continuing to do so.

Whats worse is the media let’s them get away with it, which leads to folks being mislead. It’s gross

 

[instaGATOR]

Throw the Vet Dog an occasional bone, at the expense of his country and the Constitution that they swore a lifetime Sacred Oath to support and defend,,, but keep then on a very short chain.

Most Vet Organizations at the National levels are closet RINO's that are just looking out for their own positions. They often make me sick with their short-sighted selfish positions.... 😠

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I'm not a fan of Jon Stewart. Never have been. I just don't see eye to eye with him and don't find his humor humorous. But I'm glad he stuck by my brothers and sisters in need. Jon did the right thing.
Veterans organizations also did the right thing. So proud of our VFW national legislative staff for providing a catalyst for action and being an active part of crafting this bill, and once it stalled...for sending out a call to arms for our membership to walk LOUDLY with a big stick.
I'm a Republican. Right of center, but not so far as to be blinded to various causes. I'm pretty embarrassed by those 26 senators who flipped twice in a space of less than a month and with essentially zero changes to the bill being contested.
There are four ways you can act.
1. Do the right thing for the right reason. Yes, this depends on some interpretations, but basically it's always the best choice.
2. Do the wrong thing for the right reason. In other words, fail to make a hard choice that's the right thing because you fear that someone might get hurt. Sometimes this causes more harm down the road.
3. Do the right thing for the wrong reason. Yeah, this is much of the political game. We'll vote for a bill as long as it's got the pork in it for my constituency. It gets us what we want, but we come away feeling dirty.
4. Do the wrong thing for the wrong reason. NEVER the right choice. And any explanation is so easily dismissed that the "wrong" is obvious. So obvious that it's transparent. Like voting FOR a bill to help veterans exposed to hazardous chemicals get the care they require because YOU sent them in harm's way, then voting AGAINST the bill because you got a toe stomped on by an unrelated vote on an unrelated bill and now you're gonna hold it hostage.
Moving from a "4" to a "3" by flipping and once again voting FOR the bill doesn't mitigate the damage. It doesn't restore trust. We know it's the political game, but THIS time the game was pointed right at one of your base constituencies...those who volunteered to wear your threads in lands far away doing dangerous things in dangerous conditions.
Does this change how I'll vote? No. But you (RNC) probably already know that. I vote based on issues, not emotions. But to the 26 senators who embarrassed themselves and their party TWICE on ONE bill...shame. Never, ever play this game with our veterans again.
Never.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...Ep_OAPJYmMAeQjDAoU04lBO8HOcKvxFm4bC4_L5783gfQ

Like many things the Dims do to sneak agendas through.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Neither you, nor @hmcmg8r read the article or followed what happened with the legislation I guess. Maybe too much mainstream media and Jon Stewart for you both of you? I guess I will quote what happened since neither of you wants to do your own, independent, research.

What happened you ask? Negotiations happened, just like they do on every bill. Concessions were made by Chucky to at least hold a vote on amendments to the bill proposed by Toomey and Rand Paul.

From the article:


“It was announced earlier on Tuesday that Leader Schumer and Senate Republicans had come to an agreement.

Part of the agreement involved voting on amendments from Sen. Toomey and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), which needed 60 votes to pass, though they failed.

As the bill passed the U.S. House of Representatives last month, it's now headed to President Joe Biden, who is expected to sign it into law.

What you should really be asking is….If dems, and you, feel this veteran funding was so important…..then why not just pass it with the 280 billion that was for burn pit victims. Dems could have pulled out the 400 billion in “discretionary spending” at anytime. They refused. So, was this really about the 280 billion for the burn pit victims, or the 400 billion for dems to use on other stuff?

That 400 billion, could have been debated separately., in a separate bill. Yet the media is telling y’all be mad at pubs. I swear, some folks live to be hoodwinked by the media.

This was about dems, using politics, to get themselves 400 billion to spend. Bunch of crooks.

Dems don’t give a rats ass about vets. If they did, they wouldn’t pull these shenanigans, nor allow the bs I mentioned earlier.

So nothing changed. They voted for the exact same bill the voted against. So basically it was political theater at the expense of Vets.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Throw the Vet Dog an occasional bone, at the expense of his country and the Constitution that they swore a lifetime Sacred Oath to support and defend,,, but keep then on a very short chain.

Most Vet Organizations at the National levels are closet RINO's that are just looking out for their own positions. They often make me sick with their short-sighted selfish positions.... 😠

This^^^I see right through this scheme as another way to force feed Americans their heavy taxation bills and hide behind the veterans as the victims. I represent veterans from 5 states and have signed petition after petition, and raised millions of dollars for needy vets. We take care of our own because the federal gov't doesn't care.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I'm not a fan of Jon Stewart. Never have been. I just don't see eye to eye with him and don't find his humor humorous. But I'm glad he stuck by my brothers and sisters in need. Jon did the right thing.
Veterans organizations also did the right thing. So proud of our VFW national legislative staff for providing a catalyst for action and being an active part of crafting this bill, and once it stalled...for sending out a call to arms for our membership to walk LOUDLY with a big stick.
I'm a Republican. Right of center, but not so far as to be blinded to various causes. I'm pretty embarrassed by those 26 senators who flipped twice in a space of less than a month and with essentially zero changes to the bill being contested.
There are four ways you can act.
1. Do the right thing for the right reason. Yes, this depends on some interpretations, but basically it's always the best choice.
2. Do the wrong thing for the right reason. In other words, fail to make a hard choice that's the right thing because you fear that someone might get hurt. Sometimes this causes more harm down the road.
3. Do the right thing for the wrong reason. Yeah, this is much of the political game. We'll vote for a bill as long as it's got the pork in it for my constituency. It gets us what we want, but we come away feeling dirty.
4. Do the wrong thing for the wrong reason. NEVER the right choice. And any explanation is so easily dismissed that the "wrong" is obvious. So obvious that it's transparent. Like voting FOR a bill to help veterans exposed to hazardous chemicals get the care they require because YOU sent them in harm's way, then voting AGAINST the bill because you got a toe stomped on by an unrelated vote on an unrelated bill and now you're gonna hold it hostage.
Moving from a "4" to a "3" by flipping and once again voting FOR the bill doesn't mitigate the damage. It doesn't restore trust. We know it's the political game, but THIS time the game was pointed right at one of your base constituencies...those who volunteered to wear your threads in lands far away doing dangerous things in dangerous conditions.
Does this change how I'll vote? No. But you (RNC) probably already know that. I vote based on issues, not emotions. But to the 26 senators who embarrassed themselves and their party TWICE on ONE bill...shame. Never, ever play this game with our veterans again.
Never.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...Ep_OAPJYmMAeQjDAoU04lBO8HOcKvxFm4bC4_L5783gfQ

Stewart is a piece of trash, veterans don't need him to be an advocate.

 

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Only little sissy lefties get triggered, son. Quit trying to cast your unmanly shadow..it is very unbecoming...

you guys are more triggered than anyone i have seen. might want to take a closer look in the mirror.

 

[Mdfgator]

How about you list anything positive Poopy Pants has done. If that were all that was discussed, this place would shut it's doors, ghost town. No posts per day. The hell raising won't end until these turds are voted out, or led out in handcuffs. Either way I'm fine with.

the bashing of biden is well coverered here. i like the fed drainig the trump liquidity swamp. that was necessary, dont bet the fed for negative interest rates. dollar very strong.