Originally posted by oozie7:
Originally posted by Cubs79:
Originally posted by oozie7:
Why do you keep arguing that strawman? Nobody here has said Tebow should be starting anywhere. What's been said is that given the amount of bad starters, not to mention the horrible backups, he should at least be on a roster. You can't tell me with a straight face that many of the backup guys are better. Not even GM's believe that. Bottom line is Tebow is looked at as too much of a 'distraction' due to his following and teams don't want to risk perceived controversy on their team, which is unfair to Tebow. That's the point. He's good enough to be on a roster as a backup at a minimum. If you don't think so, you don't know football.
Which roster then? He has been on 3, none of which felt he was good enough to be an NFL QB. At this point you can't just throw out vagueries like "he should be on a roster", when he has already been on 3 (at least in the preseason).
This is just circular logic. The first roster he was on, he won a playoff game. The second roster he was on, they had an established guy who they were paying 10+ million to and never gave him a shot at the starting job, so he left after a year. The third roster had Tom effing Brady on it and Ryan Mallett, a guy they had been grooming. So it made no sense for them to keep him on as a 3rd QB when that roster spot can be used for another position. You also conveniently left out that the Patriots almost never carry 3 QB's, feel free to fact check it. How about you name all the backup QB's that are so much better than he is? You're the one claiming they are, so get to proving. List the accomplishments of all these backup guys that are so much better.
Why does it matter if they carry three QBs? He wasn't able to beat out Mallett for the 2nd spot. And you say they were grooming Mallet, but they had no issue getting rid of him a year later and drafting someone else.
Look, when it comes to back ups, it isn't even always about being "better". It is also about fitting a system, or in some cases being a veteran presence and mentoring a younger guy. Tebow is not a pro style QB, and college or pro, has never ran a pro style system. Does it really make sense to have a guy as your back up that can't run your system? Is he better than Charlie Whitehurst? Perhaps, perhaps not, but Whitehurst knows the system he was in and had 2 young guys who he was brought in to mentor. Tebow would not have fit that spot over Whitehurst. Is he better than Ryan Lindley? Possibly. But again, Lindley was cut by AZ in the preseason and was only brought back because Palmer and the back up got hurt. So, does it make sense to bring back a guy who knows the system, or Tim Tebow who not only doesnt know the system, has never played in a system remotely like it?