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Hate to say it kids...but we ain’t playin’...

classic.

you realize the douche you look like with that response? I was as accommodating as possible, and that's your response?

alrighty. Bygones be bygones then. There's obviously no discussion to be had with you, and I'm sure you feel the same way.

what a shame.

Yeah, it was sweet. Tough to tell when you are posting drunk or sober, however, so no idea if you ever mean what you say. I have a brother who drinks like you, so can't tell you how many times he has poured his heart out then remembers none of it, or flat denies it. So yeah.

Just so you know:

Science is a community. The idea that scientific results can be swayed by the funder is ridiculous. Anyone who believes that has no clue. None whatsoever.

See, after a study, you want to get it published. It's the only way to get it out. But, publishers want to see your work. If it's obviously flawed, you don't get published. So maybe you are lucky and the flaws are subtle, or maybe you publish it yourself. First thing anybody does after publication is rerun your study to verify the validity. so then the flaws are exposed and you lose credibility. Worse when it gets out that the study is biased in favor of the funder. Then you lose ALL your credibility.

See, that's science. Things are tested, and retested, and retested. This is why Climate Change cannot be a religion. There is no belief. Anybody who says I don't accept these findings can retest them for accuracy.

And here's some reality for all of you. The discussion between us was about whether Climate Change is a religion. The fact that DG went on to 700 other topics doesn't change what the discussion was about. If you all want to call me out for sticking to the topic, well, you can take turns KMA.
 
If sadgator was a scientist, we probably wouldn’t be solving the climate change debate any time soon...just sayin’...

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Science is a community. The idea that scientific results can be swayed by the funder is ridiculous. Anyone who believes that has no clue. None whatsoever.

....Worse when it gets out that the study is biased in favor of the funder. Then you lose ALL your credibility.

This is why Climate Change cannot be a religion. .

I like you LG89, but this is all completely wrong.... if you think bias research, scientific “testing” that is slanted, and swaying of results isn’t just rampant, but often without pushback then I don’t know what to tell you, except you are just blind or naive

In a publish or perish world for the academe, there is ABSOLUTELY slanted research in favor of the funding agency’s interests - and more egregious every year. If you talk about private research and testing agencies, it’s even crazier

It’s not even hard for a technical professional to discern the BS if they but scratch the paint just a little

There are definitely associations that have a regimen of discernment - but still most are susceptible to the “flavor of the year” soft politique
 
...oh and by the way, back to the original point of this thread...there is no way on earth we play on schedule...this shit is getting ugly...

no political comment...just...no way this resolves by end of August...

Right now our AD says they think they’ll be fans in the stands for football and basketball, albeit at about a 50% level. And that they’ll be able to honor all season ducat holders..... and that’s when it moved a little
 
Right now our AD says they think they’ll be fans in the stands for football and basketball, albeit at about a 50% level. And that they’ll be able to honor all season ducat holders..... and that’s when it moved a little
No way football stadiums will be at 50% capacity.
 
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It is July 6, they are playing the TBT basketball tournament in a bubble, and we just shut down sadgator’s office again due to COVID cases of workers...

not to be a naysayer, but anybody who thinks we are starting on time or playing at 50% capacity stadiums is living in a dream world...

Love to be wrong, by the way...
 
It is July 6, they are playing the TBT basketball tournament in a bubble, and we just shut down sadgator’s office again due to COVID cases of workers...

not to be a naysayer, but anybody who thinks we are starting on time or playing at 50% capacity stadiums is living in a dream world...

Love to be wrong, by the way...

Never thought I would miss the office, but this working from home thing is getting old.
 
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I like you LG89, but this is all completely wrong.... if you think bias research, scientific “testing” that is slanted, and swaying of results isn’t just rampant, but often without pushback then I don’t know what to tell you, except you are just blind or naive

In a publish or perish world for the academe, there is ABSOLUTELY slanted research in favor of the funding agency’s interests - and more egregious every year. If you talk about private research and testing agencies, it’s even crazier

It’s not even hard for a technical professional to discern the BS if they but scratch the paint just a little

There are definitely associations that have a regimen of discernment - but still most are susceptible to the “flavor of the year” soft politique

The scientific community is worldwide. Americans do a slanted study, some Swedes will check it and disprove it. That's just the way it works. Now, there can be a delay of a couple of years if the refutation study needs time, but it all comes out in the wash.

Like when Republicans pass an unconstitutional law and the Supreme Court has to strike it down. Takes a little time.
 
Not to get all political...but we suffered for three months...rushed back too quick...and now the shit is hitting the fan...

might not have mattered anyway, but sadgator can’t see any way they pull it off...

hoping for a miracle, but it just is SO depressing...
God is in control, not us.
 
It is July 6, they are playing the TBT basketball tournament in a bubble, and we just shut down sadgator’s office again due to COVID cases of workers...

not to be a naysayer, but anybody who thinks we are starting on time or playing at 50% capacity stadiums is living in a dream world...

Love to be wrong, by the way...

Your posts have never gotten me down, until now.

I need my CFB, man. I NEED it.
 
In outside industrial research that I was personally involved with while in college, the motto was this: "Tell us what results your want, and we'll continue to test until we get them." :cool:

Medical results won't keep the nation shutdown, only corrupt political decisions by 'progressive socialists' can do that now, so we'll see what our current excuse for 'public servants' do for us, or TO us... o_O
 
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May not save 2020 CFB season or other sports, but US gearing up Covid-19 Vaccine Program.

"NIH launches clinical trials network to test COVID-19 vaccines and other prevention tools

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, has established a new clinical trials network that aims to enroll thousands of volunteers in large-scale clinical trials testing a variety of investigational vaccines and monoclonal antibodies intended to protect people from COVID-19.

The COVID-19 Prevention Trials Network (COVPN) was established by merging four existing NIAID-funded clinical trials networks.

The COVPN is a functional unit of “Operation Warp Speed,” a partnership led by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to invest in and coordinate the development, manufacturing and distribution of COVID-19 diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines. The network will use a harmonized vaccine protocol developed by the Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV) public-private partnership. This will enable analyses of correlates of protection across multiple vaccine trials. The network is expected to operate more than 100 clinical trial sites across the United States and internationally.

The first Phase 3 clinical trial that the COVPN is expected to conduct will involve testing the investigational mRNA-1273 vaccine, developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That study is expected to begin this summer."

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...test-covid-19-vaccines-other-prevention-tools


 
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No surprise here. They've been leaning that way for 2 months now. Let's see if it creates a domino effect...

Might be some small dominoes, but not significant ones, and it is risky. Who's to say that the COVID situation in January through spring isn't worse? In addition, that will be TWO football seasons in one calendar year. Very tough on the bodies.

Also, very different dynamics for the P5 schools. They have hundreds of millions in television contracts that fund all of their other sports and they have numerous players who are NFL level talent that would likely opt to skip the year because they will need to get ready for the draft.
 

May not save 2020 CFB season or other sports, but US gearing up Covid-19 Vaccine Program.

"NIH launches clinical trials network to test COVID-19 vaccines and other prevention tools

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, has established a new clinical trials network that aims to enroll thousands of volunteers in large-scale clinical trials testing a variety of investigational vaccines and monoclonal antibodies intended to protect people from COVID-19.

The COVID-19 Prevention Trials Network (COVPN) was established by merging four existing NIAID-funded clinical trials networks.

The COVPN is a functional unit of “Operation Warp Speed,” a partnership led by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to invest in and coordinate the development, manufacturing and distribution of COVID-19 diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines. The network will use a harmonized vaccine protocol developed by the Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV) public-private partnership. This will enable analyses of correlates of protection across multiple vaccine trials. The network is expected to operate more than 100 clinical trial sites across the United States and internationally.

The first Phase 3 clinical trial that the COVPN is expected to conduct will involve testing the investigational mRNA-1273 vaccine, developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That study is expected to begin this summer."

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...test-covid-19-vaccines-other-prevention-tools


Real life sucks.

Star Trek needs new vaccines all the time. Bones or whomever would have it whipped up in 2 days (5 minutes before everybody dies, of course), work 100% and no side effects.
 
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Might be some small dominoes, but not significant ones, and it is risky. Who's to say that the COVID situation in January through spring isn't worse? In addition, that will be TWO football seasons in one calendar year. Very tough on the bodies.

Also, very different dynamics for the P5 schools (versus Ivy League). They have hundreds of millions in television contracts that fund all of their other sports and they have numerous players who are NFL level talent that would likely opt to skip the year because they will need to get ready for the draft.

Gray,

Good thoughts; IMO, all of them true !
 
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May not save 2020 CFB season or other sports, but US gearing up Covid-19 Vaccine Program.

"NIH launches clinical trials network to test COVID-19 vaccines and other prevention tools

The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, has established a new clinical trials network that aims to enroll thousands of volunteers in large-scale clinical trials testing a variety of investigational vaccines and monoclonal antibodies intended to protect people from COVID-19.

The COVID-19 Prevention Trials Network (COVPN) was established by merging four existing NIAID-funded clinical trials networks.

The COVPN is a functional unit of “Operation Warp Speed,” a partnership led by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to invest in and coordinate the development, manufacturing and distribution of COVID-19 diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines. The network will use a harmonized vaccine protocol developed by the Accelerating COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines (ACTIV) public-private partnership. This will enable analyses of correlates of protection across multiple vaccine trials. The network is expected to operate more than 100 clinical trial sites across the United States and internationally.

The first Phase 3 clinical trial that the COVPN is expected to conduct will involve testing the investigational mRNA-1273 vaccine, developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That study is expected to begin this summer."

I will take HCQ + antibody + Zinc if I get it. I will not take any flu vaccines. -- iG


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The Story of the Medical Conspiracy Against America - January 1, 1988
5.0 out of 5 stars - If you want to understand why the medical profession is so corrupt, this book gives lengthy facts. Certainly worth the read. Doctors are not trained to cure, they are trained to 'practice AMA medicine' and make patients endure. Wake yourself up and read this book.
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