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Will the US rationalize this attack or take action?

Crenshaw et al should be pushing Pelosi into declaring war and getting us back in under full force with the mission to crush AQ, ISIS and the Tolly Ban.
They will claim this wasn't the Taliban is my guess, but, what if they were not wearing masks while perpetrating such acts? Oh, the humanity!
 
This is what happens when traitorous Rats, with the support of their deluded sheep, steal an election from the citizens of America....
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One total Cluster-phuck after another, while we watch our country going down the Rats drain....
 
the phuck is he even talking about?

We aren't arguing about getting out anymore, we're mad about our kids getting killed because you screwed this up royally Joe!
Right....this line should have been drawn months ago, not after 11 fatalities.
 
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Talk is cheap.
It's like my wife just figured out I'm cheating on her...and when I get home I start talking about our wedding.

He isn't even addressing the issue. He just said a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with anything.

How dumb he must think we all are. I feel sorry for people that voted for this shitbag and I feel sorry for all of us living in a country where he's president. He's an inept embarrassment and anyone who says anything different is beyond reaching.

Oh BTW - we just lost another one. 13 deaths on you today Joe. On you.
 
It's like my wife just figured out I'm cheating on her...and when I get home I start talking about our wedding.

He isn't even addressing the issue. He just said a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with anything.

How dumb he must think we all are. I feel sorry for people that voted for this shitbag and I feel sorry for all of us living in a country where he's president. He's an inept embarrassment and anyone who says anything different is beyond reaching.

Oh BTW - we just lost another one. 13 deaths on you today Joe. On you.
Exactly...Joe's incompetency is so obvious even Stevie Wonder can see it.
 
Crenshaw et al should be pushing Pelosi into declaring war and getting us back in under full force with the mission to crush AQ, ISIS and the Tolly Ban.

If it didn't work the last 20 years, then the answer must be another 20 years, right? What's that saying about the definition of insanity again?
 
If it didn't work the last 20 years, then the answer must be another 20 years, right? What's that saying about the definition of insanity again?
We have had 20 years of relative peace here in America. AQ has been hobbled and ISIS was purged out of Iraq. If the goal was a democratic Afghanistan it was botched early when we allowed them to incorporate Islam into their constitution. But a relatively quiet place where the locals in Kabul were slowly modernizing well that was happening. I am all for another 20-30-40-50 years of killing those b@stards over there and having it nice here.
 
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If it didn't work the last 20 years, then the answer must be another 20 years, right? What's that saying about the definition of insanity again?
We trained the AA the way we do things, meaning they know how to call in air strikes when in battle. Without CAS the AA was never going to be able to defeat terrorists who would go slaughter the families of those fighting them, pulling contractors who repaired their aircraft was the end of that.
 
We trained the AA the way we do things, meaning they know how to call in air strikes when in battle. Without CAS the AA was never going to be able to defeat terrorists who would go slaughter the families of those fighting them, pulling contractors who repaired their aircraft was the end of that.
To defeat the terrorists aka Taliban you gather intel as they try to govern. Then in the dead of night your special forces assassinate them. You return to base and plan the next mission. Rinse and repeat.
 
We trained the AA the way we do things, meaning they know how to call in air strikes when in battle. Without CAS the AA was never going to be able to defeat terrorists who would go slaughter the families of those fighting them, pulling contractors who repaired their aircraft was the end of that.

That would be the case had they fought and lost, but the vast majority of the time they just didn't fight at all.

IMO the failure is one of leadership, starting with us. When Biden and his generals all admit that the Afghan government will fall, why would the soldiers fight? What does it matter to them if the Taliban will take over in 3 months, 18 months, or next week? They've all seen the Taliban execute the soldiers who fought, and spare those who surrendered without a fight. Why would they choose to fight, lose, and die, as opposed to surrender, lose, and live?

Moving on next, who are they fighting for? When your commander-in-chief just skips town without even a whimper, why would you fight? I mean, even Saddam had Bagdad Bob try to inject some positivity, Ghani didn't even try.
 
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The buck stops with all you idiots who voted for the senile pos. The blood of those soldiers is all on you idiots. All you had to do was watch this senile man for five minutes to see he wasn’t capable of the job of President! The fact you morons voted against President Trump instead of voting FOR Biden is disgusting. Those soldiers would still be alive as nobody would have f@cked with Trump.
 
The buck stops with all you idiots who voted for the senile pos. The blood of those soldiers is all on you idiots. All you had to do was watch this senile man for five minutes to see he wasn’t capable of the job of President! The fact you morons voted against President Trump instead of voting FOR Biden is disgusting. Those soldiers would still be alive as nobody would have f@cked with Trump.

While I can't speak for all Dems, I think most Dems believe Trump cost us more lives than 12 every single day with his handling of COVID.
 
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While I can't speak for all Dems, I think most Dems believe Trump cost us more lives than 12 every single day with his handling of COVID.

Deflection duly noted.

And it's foolish to believe that ANY president would have or could have stopped covid from killing Americans like it has. This virus has done what it was designed to do.

And btw, no other world leader, right or left, has prevented 12 a day from dying of this virus either.
 
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That would be the case had they fought and lost, but the vast majority of the time they just didn't fight at all.

IMO the failure is one of leadership, starting with us. When Biden and his generals all admit that the Afghan government will fall, why would the soldiers fight? What does it matter to them if the Taliban will take over in 3 months, 18 months, or next week? They've all seen the Taliban execute the soldiers who fought, and spare those who surrendered without a fight. Why would they choose to fight, lose, and die, as opposed to surrender, lose, and live?

Moving on next, who are they fighting for? When your commander-in-chief just skips town without even a whimper, why would you fight? I mean, even Saddam had Bagdad Bob try to inject some positivity, Ghani didn't even try.
Don’t disagree at all. I was trying to find an article or interview I saw that said that upwards of 50,000 AA troops have died fighting while we’ve been there training them to fight, if that’s the case, yeah don’t know how much desire most of them have to fight. Crazy that with American fight attitude that 3% actually fought for our freedom!
 
If it didn't work the last 20 years, then the answer must be another 20 years, right? What's that saying about the definition of insanity again?
We had about 2500 troops and had created a stable area and pushed the 8th century troglodytes to the fringes of a fringe country with very little loss of American lives.

We have twice that many in Qatar.

That said, I have two good friends who are forever damaged from that place - one mentally and one physically. I get the argument to pull out. But the way Biden has botched that we are going lose much more than we should have.

Regardless we were always going to have a Taliban owned country and that is going to lead to a massive increase in Islamic terrorism around the world. This is probably why liberal leaders like Obama added troops after promising to get us out.

Add in a wide open southern border and I bet we see some suicide bombers in elementary schools in the near future.
 
While I can't speak for all Dems, I think most Dems believe Trump cost us more lives than 12 every single day with his handling of COVID.
Joe had a plan for Covid and said he was going to "end" the virus! How's that working out?
 
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Sounded like ole joes gonna break his foot off in ISISKs ass… as he should
 
This will go down as one of the biggest tactical ****ups of all time. This level of idiocracy will be difficult to surpassed, but I fear we'll see it done prior to the end of this administration.
 
WTF are you talking about? Are you really buying into the corpse’s “tough talk”? Ok, then you tell me what Hero Trump would do??? I’m here for it, let’s see your long list

he’s not doing anything about ISIS
 
@gatorspeed - learn how to forum brother, I can’t reply to whatever you did above.

First off you (and Biden) brought up Trump. I didn’t. So when I make you look ignorant don’t blame me.

But I don’t have to tell you what he’d do because he already did it. Less than 5 days after he made the deal with the Taliban in March they attacked the ANA and he dropped bombs on them. He then called our best guess at the leader of the Taliban and told him he’d kill his village and his family if they violated the agreement again. So Biden is blaming Trump for an agreement that Trump himself didn’t adhere to. Let’s also not forget Trump’s deal was May 1…so Biden is lying again, there was no “Trump deal” left. This was Biden’s deal and he thought he’d be spiking the football for ending the “endless war”.

Trump certainly wouldn’t have abandoned Bagram Air Base just because the Taliban asked him to. That was a fortified military institution with two airstrips 1000% under our control with a prison full of ISIS’s worst. Under Biden’s orders we bailed and left it to the Taliban so we could try to secure a commercial airport in a city of several million people…great idea, it’s an idea that’s made it impossible to get our people out and protect our troops.

So that’s how I know Biden won’t do anything - he wants no conflict, he won’t let our troops fire a shot at these thugs. He’s trying to negotiate with terrorists and that outcome is very predictable.

I hope you come back after we turn a few villages to glass and tell me I’m wrong, but I’d bet the house the coward in chief isn’t going to do jack schitt
 
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