being so tentative with his schemes. It almost seems like we’re playing a prevent defense at times, with very little aggression and zero gap control. I don’t know what’s going on, it’s seems like the DT position is almost non existent this year. Absolutely no push
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Because we're pretty decimated at DB right now.
We are but the counter to that is you’d help them a whole lot more coming after the QB and making him get rid of the ball fast. Never understood why coaches do the opposite it’s so ass backwards. You got inexperienced DB’s so you play conservative and give the QB more time to find a receiver? So crazy to me. We were out there giving 10 yard cushions that QB didn’t have to earn a single completion for most of the game.
Yeah he’s probably excited because after that kicker missed, he knew he wouldn’t have to answer questions from the media about having such a bad defensive game plan.
Thank god he is your problem now, his name is 3rd and long for a reason
Easier said than done when you have a young or limited secondary to put out on the field. Can't trust them to play man or you get beat or get penalties like we were getting against KY, yet you must play the secondary in man so you can afford to put the numbers up front to create pressure. Unfortunately Grantham found himself having to rely on getting pressure with only 3 guys up front because he needed to play extra in zone coverage just to stop giving up the large plays.
You just can't leave a huge open hole anywhere in the defense because it's the offense's job to always attack your weakness on defense. Rush enough to put pressure on the QB, and you've just left the running lanes wide open and that smoke kid runs for 20 yards before your secondary can even get to him.
Agreed, especially in this case where we did not have an offense who were scoring any points for most of the game. We were playing prevent defense. It is ugly to see but big plays would have doomed us quickly.
Inevitably our patience led to the KY turnovers we needed...
Why do you keep pinning this on Grantham, as if the buffoon Georgia has could of done any better? Florida was without it's #1 CB for the game. It lost it's top 2 End rushers in the game, Zuniga on the sidelines for most of the game with ice on his ankle and Greenard in a walking boot by the end of the game. Add in that the #2 CB we got back from a season ending injury last year just has not gotten back his skills that he had before the injury, the rest being freshmen in the secondary. You throw that in with Kentucky's stupid human pass interference machine of a WR, and it's a recipe I'd love for any defensive coach to come up with the magical silver bullet to.
Grantham is a good DC. He’s not great but he’s not terrible either. He’s still probably one of the better DCs in the country.
He is typically a very aggressive coach and brings lots of pressure. So it was kind of odd to see our CBs providing so much cushion.
But I really like that he is aggressive. That is what works here at UF. We have the athletes now let them go play and use their athletic ability.
I’d like to see him make some better situational subs at times, etc. Like on that 3rd & 21 Reese was one the field. He’s terrible in coverage and it is like playing with one less players on an obvious passing down. Take Reese out and put in another DB, etc.
But so far he definitely gets after the QB. In his defense besides Shawn Davis our safeties are terrible so that is a tough problem to mask.
He is typically a very aggressive coach and brings lots of pressure. So it was kind of odd to see our CBs providing so much cushion.
But I really like that he is aggressive. That is what works here at UF. We have the athletes now let them go play and use their athletic ability.
I’d like to see him make some better situational subs at times, etc. Like on that 3rd & 21 Reese was one the field. He’s terrible in coverage and it is like playing with one less players on an obvious passing down. Take Reese out and put in another DB, etc.
But so far he definitely gets after the QB. In his defense besides Shawn Davis our safeties are terrible so that is a tough problem to mask.
I’m not even remotely suggesting that Grantham isn’t worth his salt. I just think he has a tendency to go against the norm at the most peculiar times in the game. I’m very happy he’s our DC and when he’s on his game he can be elite, but he is in no way above criticism and evaluation.
We had zero run game against Kentucky and he still didn’t blitz. How do keep your defense from becoming exhausted if you play soft zone with no help from the offense sustaining drives and eating up the clock. ijs
We had zero run game against Kentucky and he still didn’t blitz. How do keep your defense from becoming exhausted if you play soft zone with no help from the offense sustaining drives and eating up the clock. ijs
To the OP's point I too noticed that we couldn't get into a scheme-rhythm. At the same time, it seemed when we got aggressive we got burned...when we played safe it was 6-8 yards a pop.
At least at KY, it was pick your poison.
At least at KY, it was pick your poison.
Grantham is a terrible DC....
And that's why the NFL was attempting to hire him away from UF this past off season....
And that's why the NFL was attempting to hire him away from UF this past off season....
Unfortunately for us, we had to choose the let them get 6-8 yards a pop option and wait for them to make mistakes. Mistakes they made to the tune of 4 turnovers, especially late in the game when their QB had scared eyes as he realized the pressure was now on him and he wasn't completing his passes any longer.
It may have sucked, it may have made them look FAR better a team than they are, but it was the hand we were forced to play. I absolutely agree that if we were able to be more aggressive, we would have allowed at least 100 yards less to them.
Remember Brian Schottenheimer?Grantham is a terrible DC....
And that's why the NFL was attempting to hire him away from UF this past off season....
Hard to blitz all the time when your secondary is in the state that ours is in right now.
Would you prefer he blitz every down and our secondary get destroyed?
Would that be satisfactory?
Would you prefer he blitz every down and our secondary get destroyed?
Would that be satisfactory?
Danny apparently took a bucket full of super-smart pills today.
He totally gets it.
He totally gets it.
It's ridiculous how badly our secondary has been beaten down this year. Deepest position on the team when training camp started, considered an elite unit nationally, now we are playing freshman because we have nobody else. This defense was going to be crazy good this year. Now, I just don't know.
Truthfully, sadgator had no idea who in the hell Shawn Davis was until this past Saturday night...shhhh....
Because if he and the rest of your staff could recruit worth a lick you wouldn't be whining about injuries. And after all the time I had with old 3rd and Grantham I know him,better than you. Can't or won't recruit, his team become worse at basic fundamentals the longer he is around. Stop whining about having a few injuries and get ready for the message Kirby is going to send Dan and old 3rd and Grantham.
Notre Dame asshole? You shit sniffers were like this before the Texas game and?
Might be a blessing in disguise. By the time midseason comes we’ll have all the vets back plus all the freshmen will have played in some big games.
I think he is saying that Schottenheimer was the worst OC ever to call plays in Athens. The assertion that Grantham was recruited by the pros, means he is an elite DC doesn't hold water. You will dismiss this as UGA jealous drivel, but Grantham was told to look for another job because Mark Richt was too "nice" to outright fire anyone. He didn't recruit. Hs players weren't taught defensive fundamentals. His defensive play calling was imminently predictable. His blitzing, attack mode is popular with fans until it causes a loss.
It’s not an assertion; the Bengals offered him a position last year. Where do you people come from?
Lose your qb to injury and you guys will be over looking for our sympathy to go along with the daily validation.
Oozie, re-read my sentence. I did not question that he had been approached by the pros. I said that doesn't automatically mean that he is "elite".
“I said that doesn't automatically mean that he is "elite".”
I guess you could say describing a coach as “elite” is definitely relative. When I think of the elite coordinators, I think of the guys that I would want calling plays if we were playing in the CFP. Can I think of ten DC’s that I would rather win one game with over Grantham.
For me that answer is definitely not. I honestly can’t think of ten better defensive coordinators in college football, but I don’t know maybe you can. He’s still not above criticism. js
I guess you could say describing a coach as “elite” is definitely relative. When I think of the elite coordinators, I think of the guys that I would want calling plays if we were playing in the CFP. Can I think of ten DC’s that I would rather win one game with over Grantham.
For me that answer is definitely not. I honestly can’t think of ten better defensive coordinators in college football, but I don’t know maybe you can. He’s still not above criticism. js
Florida seems to have a depleted secondary every year dont they?
If your secondary ever gets healthy again you'll find out that it wont make much of a difference with Grantham at the helm. He'll throw the kitchen sink at you with all the blitzes and usually leaves the secondary to fend for themselves.
With all the injuries that occurred before and during the game, Kentucky still only managed to score 7 points in the 2nd half. Not to mention the jump ball in the end zone was on Marco Wilson and was lucky as shit. Personally, I thought he trapped the ball. Count me as one who was proud of that defensive performance.
I mean you can go that way with it but we have had a pretty tough war of attrition with the secondary.
Relying on a lot of young guys now.
We'll see.
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