Why folks aren’t getting vaccinated

[jfegaly]

And it has nothing to do with Politics

@kalimgoodman you should probably sit this one out. There are some big words in the article.

Why My Son Is Unvaccinated

townhall.com

 

[gator1776]

You’re obsessed with this vaccine.

 

[jfegaly]

You’re obsessed with this vaccine.

Well yeah. The whole country is, but what I am really obsessed with is improving your treatment results by 85 percent. How many have to…..oh nevermind

 

[jfegaly]

Facebook issues harsh response to Biden accusation that platform is 'killing people'

Facebook is pushing back against the White House's narrative that the social media platform is "killing people."

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Mdfgator]

If you worry take the vaccine, if you don't worry, don't. I would prefer a world without people killing themselves with processed shit, but freedom in the end is good, so long as we keep the freedom part,

 

[instaGATOR]

You’re obsessed with this vaccine.

Which is why you feel the desperate need to respond to anything negative said about it....

 

[BamaFan1137]

And it has nothing to do with Politics

@kalimgoodman you should probably sit this one out. There are some big words in the article.

Why My Son Is Unvaccinated

townhall.com

I might be that guys son...other than I don't live in California, I'm not a stay at home dad and I don't know many Armenians or Russians. I know one Russian. Ironically we call him "the Russian"...mostly because no one can pronounce his name with 9 consecutive consonants.

In review, I'm not actually this guy. But I might be.

 

[gator1776]

And it has nothing to do with Politics

@kalimgoodman you should probably sit this one out. There are some big words in the article.

Why My Son Is Unvaccinated

townhall.com

Three weeks ago we had no Covid patients in this hospital. Today we have 30 Covid patients in the hospital and we now have six Covid patients on ventilators. All but one have not received the vaccine and the one that did receive the vaccine is on low oxygen and will probably go home tomorrow.

when you ask them why they didn’t get the vaccine you get the same reasons that guy stated in the article, and they all regret not getting the vaccine now.

We are dangerously close to another resurgence of the pandemic. That is why locally some places are making hard decisions trying to re-institute policies that may prevent or lessen the spread because if we outstrip our resources we go back to having to make decisions about who gets to live and who gets to die.

This is a preventable disease now, and if you get the infection you run the risk of dying and the vaccine is relatively safe, far more risk to not getting the vaccine given the current surging infection numbers. Also of note more pediatric cases are developing and severe pediatric cases are developing. I’ve been keeping an eye on the numbers and they’re not looking good.

Y’all do what you want but that’s the reality of what’s happening right from the doctors and nurses that are actually taking care of this and are horribly afraid of having to go through this again like we’ve had to twice already. More and more people are quitting because it’s horribly demoralizing and even more so now that it’s preventable.

 

[jfegaly]

Three weeks ago we had no Covid patients in this hospital. Today we have 30 Covid patients in the hospital and we now have six Covid patients on ventilators. All but one have not received the vaccine and the one that did receive the vaccine is on low oxygen and will probably go home tomorrow.

when you ask them why they didn’t get the vaccine you get the same reasons that guy stated in the article, and they all regret not getting the vaccine now.

We are dangerously close to another resurgence of the pandemic. That is why locally some places are making hard decisions trying to re-institute policies that may prevent or lessen the spread because if we outstrip our resources we go back to having to make decisions about who gets to live and who gets to die.

This is a preventable disease now, and if you get the infection you run the risk of dying and the vaccine is relatively safe, far more risk to not getting it then there is benefit. Also of note more pediatric cases are developing and severe pediatric cases are developing. I’ve been keeping an eye on the numbers and they’re not looking good.

Y’all do what you want but that’s the reality of what’s happening right from the doctors and nurses that are actually taking care of this and aren’t horribly afraid of having to go through this again like we’ve had to twice already. More and more people are quitting because it’s horribly demoralizing and even more so now that it’s preventable.

Question. It seems to me that this isn’t a vaccine in the truest sense of the word. In other words many folks are still getting it and another unknown percentage might be getting it and not knowing (asymptomatic just like the non vaccinated). Unlike say a polio vax (99-100% effective after 3 doses) that literally slams the door and prevents it, are these vaccines just making the disease have less impact, but really folks are still getting it?

I say this to ask a serious questions. Its seems one Of the things the vax is doing is stopping that big immune response that is killing folks.

So, is it possible that down the road this will impact how folks immune systems respond to other things?

Just want to know if thats possible, or can you say with 100 percent certainty that cannot happen? What about possible other serious negative side effects, besides the ones we know?

Everything I am reading is that the Delta variant is more contagious but less lethal.

Ok, enough serious stuff, keep up the ok work mcstuffins

 

[goldmom]

My daughter has the Delta variant. She IS Pfizer vaccinated but the pharmacy at Walgreens gave her a test. It has unique symptoms like hearing issues, but low fever and headache. She's also just tired. She has a compromised immune system and catches everything. 😕

My son and DIL are two very bright people with advanced degrees who won't get vaccinated. He works at Shands, and she works at a major oncology practice. Her father is a retired MD who refuses to get jabbed because he thinks the mRNA hasn't had the right time of trials. So my son listens to him. Very tense argument with my son. 😡

Not happy times at Casa Goldie.

 

[jfegaly]

My daughter has the Delta variant. She IS Pfizer vaccinated but the pharmacy at Walgreens gave her a test. It has unique symptoms like hearing issues, but low fever and headache. She's also just tired. She has a compromised immune system and catches everything. 😕

My son and DIL are two very bright people with advanced degrees who won't get vaccinated. He works at Shands, and she works at a major oncology practice. Her father is a retired MD who refuses to get jabbed because he thinks the mRNA hasn't had the right time of trials. So my son listens to him. Very tense argument with my son. 😡

Not happy times at Casa Goldie.

Docs on both sides of this. Needless to say, the science is not settled, which is what IS unsettling

 

[BamaFan1137]

I don't know what I don't know...and that's what bothers me about the vaccine.

I do know what I do know...and that's what bothers me about not getting vaccinated.

Truth be told, I'd probably get vaccinated if I didn't already have antibodies. But I'm not going to lie, I will be the least shocked person on planet Earth if and when we learn that the vaccinations put you at high risk for, or flat out cause __________.

 

[gator1776]

Question. It seems to me that this isn’t a vaccine in the truest sense of the word. In other words many folks are still getting it and another unknown percentage might be getting it and not knowing (asymptomatic just like the non vaccinated). Unlike say a polio vax (99-100% effective after 3 doses) that literally slams the door and prevents it, are these vaccines just making the disease have less impact, but really folks are still getting it?

I say this to ask a serious questions. Its seems one Of the things the vax is doing is stopping that big immune response that is killing folks.

So, is it possible that down the road this will impact how folks immune systems respond to other things?

Just want to know if thats possible, or can you say with 100 percent certainty that cannot happen? What about possible other serious negative side effects, besides the ones we know?

Everything I am reading is that the Delta variant is more contagious but less lethal.

Ok, enough serious stuff, keep up the ok work mcstuffins

Yeah it’s very similar to the influenza vaccine. The influenza vaccine prevents a lot of people from getting it but it’s not 100% effective in preventing infection. But of those that still get infection after they get the vaccine their cases are much milder. A lot of vaccines are that way, they don’t necessarily prevent the virus from entering your system particularly through the respiratory tract but they prevent it from causing major problems and then sometimes are very effective and even preventing the infection altogether. In other words that’s not uncommon but I think people are learning about that for the first time because of how much press this gets.

 

[jfegaly]

Yeah it’s very similar to the influenza vaccine. The influenza vaccine prevents a lot of people from getting it but it’s not 100% effective in preventing infection. But of those that still get infection after they get the vaccine their cases are much milder. A lot of vaccines are that way, they don’t necessarily prevent the virus from entering your system particularly through the respiratory tract but they prevent it from causing major problems and then sometimes are very effective and even preventing the infection altogether. In other words that’s not uncommon but I think people are learning about that for the first time because of how much press this gets.

My concerns are, long term effects, does this impact the immune system in a way that may have bad consequences later, and if we are so confident it’s safe…why the hesitation with children.

Just seems like we are putting alot of trust in….things that are still unknown for a disease that 99.9 percent will be just fine. And if delta is less lethal, well, you get the gist.

My other concern is that we aren’t being totally forthcoming with potential side effects. Why? Look at the things being done by this administration to shut down dissent. Just saying, they aren’t exactly inspiring trust.

Oh, if you ever want to get a B in class just let me know

 

[gator1776]

My concerns are, long term effects, does this impact the immune system in a way that may have bad consequences later, and if we are so confident it’s safe…why the hesitation with children.

Just seems like we are putting alot of trust in….things that are still unknown for a disease that 99.9 percent will be just fine. And if delta is less lethal, well, you get the gist.

My other concern is that we aren’t being totally forthcoming with potential side effects. Why? Look at the things being done by this administration to shut down dissent. Just saying, they aren’t exactly inspiring trust.

99.9% of the people that get Covid is not accurate. If you go by the data through which we typically calculate this you have a slightly greater than 1% risk of dying if you get Covid. Taking all comers.

That means statistically, if every person in the world gets Covid eventually, that 80 million will die from it. Strangely enough, statistically, that’s still A mild pandemic when compared to the death rates of other pandemics historically, but it’s no small number to Skoff at. And it’s incredibly preventable.

I understand the concern, the research was quick, but it was very thorough for the short term affects. Long-term the vaccine will not affect your immune system and is likely very safe but what it will do to you 10 or 20 years from now does remain to be seen and there’s always a little bit of risk with everything in life. Have to make the decision that’s best for you but you do need to realize that whatever decision you make has consequences not just for you but for others because if you do get infected and then spread it to other people sooner or later somebody’s gonna die from that infection spread.

It is what it is, the choice remains yours, I am fully vaccinated and if they recommend a third booster I will take it. Based off of what I’m seeing I’m more inclined to give the vaccine to my kids.

As to why the vaccine has not been cleared for younger populations that’s not uncommon and remember this infection didn’t hit kids very hard at first so they really didn’t have a lot to study at the beginning but the research is ongoing. But what I’m seeing in the last 3 to 4 weeks is changing my mind on who should get the vaccine and I’m starting to bring that age down lower and lower week by week.

 

[jfegaly]

99.9% of the people that get Covid is not accurate. If you go by the data through which we typically calculate this you have a slightly greater than 1% risk of dying if you get Covid. Taking all comers.

That means statistically, if every person in the world gets Covid eventually, that 80 million will die from it. Strangely enough, statistically, that’s still A mild pandemic when compared to the death rates of other pandemics historically, but it’s no small number to Skoff at. And it’s incredibly preventable.

I understand the concern, the research was quick, but it was very thorough for the short term affects. Long-term the vaccine will not affect your immune system and is likely very safe but what it will do to you 10 or 20 years from now does remain to be seen and there’s always a little bit of risk with everything in life. Have to make the decision that’s best for you but you do need to realize that whatever decision you make has consequences not just for you but for others because if you do get infected and then spread it to other people sooner or later somebody’s gonna die from that infection spread.

It is what it is, the choice remains yours, I am fully vaccinated and if they recommend a third booster I will take it. Based off of what I’m seeing I’m more inclined to give the vaccine to my kids.

As to why the vaccine has not been cleared for younger populations that’s not uncommon and remember this infection didn’t hit kids very hard at first so they really didn’t have a lot to study at the beginning but the research is ongoing. But what I’m seeing in the last 3 to 4 weeks is changing my mind on who should get the vaccine and I’m starting to bring that age down lower and lower week by week.

Going into semantics here, but 1 percent is actually not accurate either as most IFR studies are below 1 percent. Link below. Notice also I never said of those who get it, I said 99.9 will be fine, which takes more into consideration
like those who never get it, those we don’t know had it etc.

Unraveling the flaws of estimates of the infection fatality rate for COVID-19

The infection fatality rate (IFR) of COVID-19 is one of the measures of disease impact that can be of importance for policy making. However, we have found

academic.oup.com

 

[gator1776]

Going into semantics here, but 1 percent is actually not accurate either as most IFR studies are below 1 percent. Link below. Notice also I never said of those who get it, I said 99.9 will be fine, which takes more into consideration
like those who never get it, those we don’t know had it etc.

Unraveling the flaws of estimates of the infection fatality rate for COVID-19

The infection fatality rate (IFR) of COVID-19 is one of the measures of disease impact that can be of importance for policy making. However, we have found

academic.oup.com

Here’s where I urge you not to look on the Internet for these things. I am simply quoting the actual statistics by which we calculate these things which is known cases versus actual deaths. Based on that it’s over 1%. You can overthink this but in simplistic terms mortality rate is simply number of deaths in relation to known cases. My own personal opinion is it’s probably somewhere below 1% but just going off the known statistics it’s above 1%.
I strongly urge everybody to take this Seriously because what I’m seeing disturbs me because it’s a surge in healthier people this time. Make the best choice for you Godspeed good luck

 

[jfegaly]

Here’s where I urge you not to look on the Internet for these things. I am simply quoting the actual statistics by which we calculate these things which is known cases versus actual deaths. Based on that it’s over 1%. You can overthink this but in simplistic terms mortality rate is simply number of deaths in relation to known cases. My own personal opinion is it’s probably somewhere below 1% but just going off the known statistics it’s above 1%.
I strongly urge everybody to take this Seriously because what I’m seeing disturbs me because it’s a surge in healthier people this time. Make the best choice for you Godspeed good luck

All good doc, just pointing out we were talking about two different things.

And wouldn’t taking your word for it be getting information off the internet?

 

[fatman76]

You’re obsessed with this vaccine.

You can’t get away from it. The pressure is outstanding on most of us who have made the choice not to get it (yet, at least for me).

I just found out I may not be able to intern at a regional lacrosse camp because I’m not vaccinated. It’s a huge blow to my (volunteer) lacrosse coaching career…something that’s a huge bonding opportunity for me and both my kids. I’m trying to learn a sport I never played.

Life is going to be made really difficult for people making the “wrong” choice, even though the serious outcomes from the disease are waning sharply and there are many stories of vaccinated people becoming infected.

If they’d quit being totalitarians and just back off, share the truth and be honest with us I bet more people would get the jab.

The “zero risk” mentality Covid caused in incredibly damaging.

CNN Demands to Know Vaccine Status in Order to Submit Questions to Ask Biden at Next Week's Town Hall in Cincinnati | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

CNN is hosting a town hall for Joe Biden in Cincinnati, Ohio on July 21 at 8 PM ET with Don Lemon as the moderator.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Yankees-Red Sox Game Postponed After Three Fully Vaccinated Pitchers Test Positive For Covid-19 | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Didn’t Joe Biden and his mouthpiece over at the CDC warn us of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”?

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Here We Go: CDC Director Rochelle Walensky Warns of "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Friday sounded the alarm and warned of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” Walensky’s warning comes as the Biden Administration sends goons door-to-door to harass unvaccinated Americans.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[fatman76]

Here’s where I urge you not to look on the Internet for these things. I am simply quoting the actual statistics by which we calculate these things which is known cases versus actual deaths. Based on that it’s over 1%. You can overthink this but in simplistic terms mortality rate is simply number of deaths in relation to known cases. My own personal opinion is it’s probably somewhere below 1% but just going off the known statistics it’s above 1%.
I strongly urge everybody to take this Seriously because what I’m seeing disturbs me because it’s a surge in healthier people this time. Make the best choice for you Godspeed good luck

About 15k people in my age range have died from Covid, and I’m on the younger side of the range.

 

[gator1776]

You can’t get away from it. The pressure is outstanding on most of us who have made the choice not to get it (yet, at least for me).

I just found out I may not be able to intern at a regional lacrosse camp because I’m not vaccinated. It’s a huge blow to my (volunteer) lacrosse coaching career…something that’s a huge bonding opportunity for me and both my kids. I’m trying to learn a sport I never played.

Life is going to be made really difficult for people making the “wrong” choice, even though the serious outcomes from the disease are waning sharply and there are many stories of vaccinated people becoming infected.

If they’d quit being totalitarians and just back off, share the truth and be honest with us I bet more people would get the jab.

The “zero risk” mentality Covid caused in incredibly damaging.

View embedded media

CNN Demands to Know Vaccine Status in Order to Submit Questions to Ask Biden at Next Week's Town Hall in Cincinnati | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

CNN is hosting a town hall for Joe Biden in Cincinnati, Ohio on July 21 at 8 PM ET with Don Lemon as the moderator.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Yankees-Red Sox Game Postponed After Three Fully Vaccinated Pitchers Test Positive For Covid-19 | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Didn’t Joe Biden and his mouthpiece over at the CDC warn us of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”?

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Here We Go: CDC Director Rochelle Walensky Warns of "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Friday sounded the alarm and warned of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” Walensky’s warning comes as the Biden Administration sends goons door-to-door to harass unvaccinated Americans.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

See above

 

[gator1776]

About 15k people in my age range have died from Covid, and I’m on the younger side of the range.

See above

 

[jfegaly]

You can’t get away from it. The pressure is outstanding on most of us who have made the choice not to get it (yet, at least for me).

I just found out I may not be able to intern at a regional lacrosse camp because I’m not vaccinated. It’s a huge blow to my (volunteer) lacrosse coaching career…something that’s a huge bonding opportunity for me and both my kids. I’m trying to learn a sport I never played.

Life is going to be made really difficult for people making the “wrong” choice, even though the serious outcomes from the disease are waning sharply and there are many stories of vaccinated people becoming infected.

If they’d quit being totalitarians and just back off, share the truth and be honest with us I bet more people would get the jab.

The “zero risk” mentality Covid caused in incredibly damaging.

View embedded media

CNN Demands to Know Vaccine Status in Order to Submit Questions to Ask Biden at Next Week's Town Hall in Cincinnati | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

CNN is hosting a town hall for Joe Biden in Cincinnati, Ohio on July 21 at 8 PM ET with Don Lemon as the moderator.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Yankees-Red Sox Game Postponed After Three Fully Vaccinated Pitchers Test Positive For Covid-19 | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Didn’t Joe Biden and his mouthpiece over at the CDC warn us of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”?

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Here We Go: CDC Director Rochelle Walensky Warns of "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Friday sounded the alarm and warned of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” Walensky’s warning comes as the Biden Administration sends goons door-to-door to harass unvaccinated Americans.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

See above. Basically doc said don’t take his advice.

 

[fatman76]

See above

I’m not @ing you at all, but if people seem obsessed…

 

[gator1776]

I’m not @ing you at all, but if people seem obsessed…

That was just me giving @jfegaly crap
Lol

 

[gator1776]

See above. Basically doc said don’t take his advice.

That’s not what I said, I said make the best choice for you but I am very worried personally I would vaccinate.

 

[jfegaly]

That’s not what I said, I said make the best choice for you but I am very worried personally I would vaccinate.

Oh, I thought you said “ Here’s where I urge you not to look on the Internet for these things.”

Remind me, where are we having this discussion?

 

[fatman76]

If true, this is no bueno

Vaccinated people now make up almost 47% of all new Covid cases

King's College London scientists estimated 33,118 people were catching the virus daily in the week ending July 10 - compared to 33,723 in the previous seven-day spell.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[gator1776]

Oh, I thought you said “ Here’s where I urge you not to look on the Internet for these things.”

Remind me, where are we having this discussion?

Honestly not in the mood. Watched way too many COVID19 people get placed on life support today that I know are gonna die.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Attention dems and quacks in the medical profession:

Want the people who have decided against taking the vaccine to take it? Then START BEING HONEST WITH THEM ABOUT THE VACCINE AND COVID.

Y'all are making this a lot harder than it needs to be.

Telling us you are gonna make our lives a living hell and cut off our living privileges unless we take the vaccine doesn't work either. Neither does sending docs door to door with armed guards to force the vaccine on us.

If this vaccine was so great, you wouldn't have to lie about it.

Again, y'all make this harder than it needs to be.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

If true, this is no bueno

Vaccinated people now make up almost 47% of all new Covid cases

King's College London scientists estimated 33,118 people were catching the virus daily in the week ending July 10 - compared to 33,723 in the previous seven-day spell.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wait...what???

So the dems and quacks are pushing these vaccines, that could kill us, and there's only a 50% chance they will work?!??

Something is going on here, folks.

 

[fatman76]

Honestly not in the mood. Watched way too many COVID19 people get placed on life support today that I know are gonna die.

Today? Really, how many?

 

[fatman76]

Attention dems and quacks in the medical profession:

Want the people who have decided against taking the vaccine to take it? Then START BEING HONEST WITH THEM ABOUT THE VACCINE AND COVID.

Y'all are making this a lot harder than it needs to be.

Telling us you are gonna make our lives a living hell and cut off our living privileges unless we take the vaccine doesn't work either. Neither does sending docs door to door with armed guards to force the vaccine on us.

If this vaccine was so great, you wouldn't have to lie about it.

Again, y'all make this harder than it needs to be.

Again - honesty

- tell me there’s still a 50/50 I get it if vaccinated
- give me the real CFR and best guess IFR with data on long term virus effects
- tell me the honest numbers on bad outcomes and deaths
- tell me the effectiveness against variants and their relative risk levels
- don’t **** with me if I don’t get it
- freaking formally approve it for gawds sakes
At that point, I might be ok with it.

 

[gator1776]

Today? Really, how many?

5

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Wait...what???

So the dems and quacks are pushing these vaccines, that could kill us, and there's only a 50% chance they will work?!??

Something is going on here, folks.

As usual, you guys just read the headline. If you read the entire article, you would have seen this:

“While the figures look worrying, it is important to highlight that vaccines have massively reduced severe infections and post-vaccination Covid is a much milder disease for most people.”

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

As usual, you guys just read the headline. If you read the entire article, you would have seen this:

“While the figures look worrying, it is important to highlight that vaccines have massively reduced severe infections and post-vaccination Covid is a much milder disease for most people.”

Why did the dems vote against The Civil Rights Act?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Again - honesty

- tell me there’s still a 50/50 I get it if vaccinated
- give me the real CFR and best guess IFR with data on long term virus effects
- tell me the honest numbers on bad outcomes and deaths
- tell me the effectiveness against variants and their relative risk levels
- don’t **** with me if I don’t get it
- freaking formally approve it for gawds sakes
At that point, I might be ok with it.

Precisely. The fact that the people pushing these vaccines are being so dishonest about them makes any rational person hesitant to take them.

I mean hells bells, they are now claiming that not a single person has died from any of these vaccines. We know that's not true. Just look above, @Uniformed_ReRe is clearly pointing out that it's a GOOD thing that people who have been vaccinated who later catch covid have a MUCH MILDER version of covid. The supposed 'doctor' Liked the comment. WTF???? So these aren't vaccines after all...they are shots that won't keep you from getting covid after all? But if you get the vaccine, and then you later get covid....it might not be as bad.

What is the end game here? This is a group of vaccines with obvious flaws, none of them have been approved by the FDA. And by now, we've been lied to for so long about them that even if they are, we still won't believe they are safe. And as we see above, they aren't even vaccines, you can still get covid after getting the vaccines. And we have 'doctors' here Liking that.

If the goal was public safety, they would be open and honest about the vaccines. They would have told us they aren't really vaccines, and you could still get covid. They would have been open and honest about the potential benefits of HCQ. They would have been open and honest about the fact that there is statistically almost zero risk to children.

None of that happened.

These vaccines clearly don't work. @Uniformed_ReRe just told us that. The 'doctor' agreed. In fact, @Uniformed_ReRe just told us that covid is WORSE for some people who have been vaccinated! The 'doctor' agreed. WTF??????

So why are they been forced on us? Why the fear-mongering to take shots that don't work, and that may have deadly side affects?

Something's going on here, folks.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Precisely. The fact that the people pushing these vaccines are being so dishonest about them makes any rational person hesitant to take them.

I mean hells bells, they are now claiming that not a single person has died from any of these vaccines. We know that's not true. Just look above, @Uniformed_ReRe is clearly pointing out that it's a GOOD thing that people who have been vaccinated who later catch covid have a MUCH MILDER version of covid. The supposed 'doctor' Liked the comment. WTF???? So these aren't vaccines after all...they are shots that won't keep you from getting covid after all? But if you get the vaccine, and then you later get covid....it might not be as bad.

What is the end game here? This is a group of vaccines with obvious flaws, none of them have been approved by the FDA. And by now, we've been lied to for so long about them that even if they are, we still won't believe they are safe. And as we see above, they aren't even vaccines, you can still get covid after getting the vaccines. And we have 'doctors' here Liking that.

If the goal was public safety, they would be open and honest about the vaccines. They would have told us they aren't really vaccines, and you could still get covid. They would have been open and honest about the potential benefits of HCQ. They would have been open and honest about the fact that there is statistically almost zero risk to children.

None of that happened.

These vaccines clearly don't work. @Uniformed_ReRe just told us that. The 'doctor' agreed. In fact, @Uniformed_ReRe just told us that covid is WORSE for some people who have been vaccinated! The 'doctor' agreed. WTF??????

So why are they been forced on us? Why the fear-mongering to take shots that don't work, and that may have deadly side affects?

Something's going on here, folks.

This kind of post is why I declared Ghost one of the most toxic and diabolical individuals I’ve ever encountered.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This kind of post is why I declared Ghost one of the most toxic and diabolical individuals I’ve ever encountered.

Why did dems vote against The Civil Rights Act?

 

[gator1776]

This kind of post is why I declared Ghost one of the most toxic and diabolical individuals I’ve ever encountered.

He’s not diabolical, he’s ignorant. But he’s the worst kind of ignorant. He’s an ignorant narcissist which means he’s incapable of seeing how ignorant he is on certain topics. He’s a lost cause which is why I long-ago ignored him. He will go through life pleasantly ignorant on many topics and to narcissistic to ever learn better.

But I do have to ask, why did the Democrats vote against The Civil Rights Act?