While you were sleeping...Jeff Driskel threw for 457 and 3 TDs
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Insane. Driskel had a very good year this year. Good for him. 5 of 6 QBs Muschamp recruited have transfered and the last one is Harris. Talk about failure at recruiting/developing the most inportant position on the field by Muschamp. 2 of them in Driskel and Brissett are playing in the Senior Bowl.
Shows you just HOW bad he was, thank goodness for the improbable, almost impossible, meltdown against USCe last year, or someone who shall remain nameless would have retained him.
He's USCe problem now. It just goes to show you how bad Muschamp really was with his offensive philosophy. Driskel leaves and has a really impressive year.
Sure they do, but there is one helluva gap between his performances this year and his time at UF.
Im sure Treon will ball too when he transfers to one of these schools. Driskel did just fine against the EKU's of the world while at UF. Now he's throwing the ball 40-50 times a game against video game varsity level defenses.
Mac couldn't get much outta Treon this year, I wonder if the same would be said for JD if he stayed? His production san Boom is very interesting to say the least.
With a worse OL and against SEC defenses, you wouldn't have seen anything world beating.
This is what is funny to me with this new narrative. Driskel had all the guys we had last year plus FOUR starting NFL linemen along with Matt Jones and yet had an epic meltdown. We all see how bad Treon is and yet the offenses numbers almost doubled under Treon as compared to the offense under Driskel. And Treon was a bad true freshman with almost no experience. And in a few months a guy who was fired after failing spectacularly at USF (Holtz) has somehow turned into a genius offensive coach who now has Driskel looking like a stud. It couldn't possibly be the fact that he's playing in an open offense which naturally inflates numbers, against poor defenses, with a ton of attempts. Oh, and he gets to be the best athlete on the field unlike here in the SEC.
I'm just wondering if we're going to get Treon updates when he transfers. Or Grier updates. Also, why aren't we getting Morningweh and Staver updates? They're all about equally useful.
Muschamp is gone, and so is Driskel, so I'm moving on about either of them.
JFYI though:
In the last 3 years, 6 Gator QB's have transferred out for playing time.
1. Jacoby Brissett to NCSt/ACC to become the starter.
2. Max Staver to Houston Bapt. JuCo (had a 2 win season)
3. Tyler Murphy to BC/ACC to become the starter.
* Will Muschamp to the barn...
4. Jeff Driskel to LaTech to become the starter.
5. Skyler Morninweg to 1aa Columbia, Ivy League. (had a 2 win season)
6. Will Grier to ???? (slit his own throat)
7. Harris is the next to go???? (just not good enough at QB)
AMF's
What I'm interested in at this point in time is:
Kyle Trask 6-6 218 Fr EE - Great Arm - Okay Legs
Feleipe Franks 6-6 220 Fr EE - Okay Arm - Great Legs
JFYI though:
In the last 3 years, 6 Gator QB's have transferred out for playing time.
1. Jacoby Brissett to NCSt/ACC to become the starter.
2. Max Staver to Houston Bapt. JuCo (had a 2 win season)
3. Tyler Murphy to BC/ACC to become the starter.
* Will Muschamp to the barn...
4. Jeff Driskel to LaTech to become the starter.
5. Skyler Morninweg to 1aa Columbia, Ivy League. (had a 2 win season)
6. Will Grier to ???? (slit his own throat)
7. Harris is the next to go???? (just not good enough at QB)
AMF's
What I'm interested in at this point in time is:
Kyle Trask 6-6 218 Fr EE - Great Arm - Okay Legs
Feleipe Franks 6-6 220 Fr EE - Okay Arm - Great Legs
Bingo. Also just an FYI as well Driskel never put up numbers like this at UF even when playing against the patsies on our schedule. Look at Driskel's stats at UF with UF talent playing against cupcakes.
Yes Muschamp did set offensive football back to the stone ages when he was here.
I got to watch him melt down in person a few weeks ago, we absolutely put a curb stomping on Driskel and Holtz. Anyone that is using stats isn't watching, as I said before, he just throws the ball in the flats a ton and scrambles then hits some throws. He's doing what he's supposed to as a 5 star kid that was tops coming out on this level as a senior. We just took away his first read in the flats over and over and bottled him up and watched the hilarity ensue. Also he throws it a TON coming from behind in ass beatings against prevent dime looks.
For most of us on this board the whole disagreement about Driskel was a chicken or an egg type issue. Those that believed Muschamp erred by recruiting the wrong kid put the blame on Driskel and his shortcomings. Those that believed Driskel erred by committing to Muschamp's offensive system put the blame on Muschamp. Driskel's performance this year in a different offense and under different coaching should settle that argument. The preponderance of the evidence falls significantly in favor of Driskel. Too bad he wasn't able to work with Mac this year and provide a needed option for us as quarterback. Arguing otherwise at this point is sheer stubbornness in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence..
He throws it a ton from behind in ass beatings?? Really? La Tech lost 4 games all year. Only 2 of their losses were blowout losses. They finished 9-4. Hard to figure that 2 out of 13 games equals TONS. The fact of the matter is he looks 10 times better this year than he ever has. Chalk it up to whatever you want but he never even put up gaudy statistics playing against cupcakes with a UF roster. Look at his stats against the cupcakes he played while at UF. He still never put up eye popping numbers. Now all of a sudden just 1 year removed from Muschamp ball he's putting up good numbers and looks like a different player.
So you say he sucks and that's fine and all because I could care less but I sure would take a QB at UF right now that could throw for 3500 yards and 24 TDs even if it is a sucky QB. Last time I checked we didn't get anywhere near that with Muschamp.
How come Holtz got more out of Driskel in 1 year than Muschamp could in 3 years?
Where is this myth coming from that Driskel was soooo good and that Muschamp ruined him? It must be the 5-stars. You all realize he had terrible passing stats in HS also correct? His junior year he had 1400 yards passing and completed 52% of his passes. Then he went to camps, measured 6'3 220, ran a 4.5, and then got a high ranking. He has never actually performed on the field. He got a high ranking because of his physical gifts. The only reason you guys still obsess about him is the shiny 5-stars. You all still have dreams of Heisman's and national championships in your head because the recruiting nerds told you he should be good. Why don't we receive constant updates about all the other failed UF QB's? And if it was ALL Muschamp, why did the offense improve each time Driskel was replaced? Those other QB's weren't playing in the same shitty systems?
JD is a gifted athlete but did not have the head to be a division I QB. He had ample opportunity to prove otherwise, Harris made him look like scrub in comparison. I think Treon could be better after some psychoanalysis therapy but I somehow doubt it. Same situation for Justin Hardin. They both lost whatever mojo they had and it can't be blamed on coaching. Mac showed confidence in both but they ultimately failed.
This is the answer no one has an answer too. We all see how bad Treon is as a QB, yet he outperformed Driskel as a true freshman. How do you all reconcile that with thinking Driskel was a really good QB ruined by Muschamp? How does a good QB get completely outplayed by Treon? Why didn't the offense completely tank with another QB? I wonder how many people have checked the rankings of these defenses he's playing?
It's really not complicated. He dropped down a level and is now the best athlete on the field. Throw in crappy defenses and an open system and there you go. He didn't suddenly become a stud in a matter of months. He has never produced as a passer on any level, not even HS. Muschamp was bad, Driskel was bad. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I do wonder if Treon would also dominate at La Tech if the roles were reversed. Both Rivals 100 quarterbacks, both stunk it up at the D1 level and both given ample opportunity to show their worth.
I do wonder how dominant Harris would be at a lower tier. Inquiring minds wanna know.
I do wonder how dominant Harris would be at a lower tier. Inquiring minds wanna know.
Any ball he throws down the field it's still exactly the same
Driskel is terrible at QB when it comes to D1 ball...not sure why this is even bring discussed. We saw it for years!
LOL@ Staver and Morningweh transferring to juco and FCS and leading two win seasons. Just goes to show how bad our QB evaluations were. Good lord.
So lets see, he couldn't find a QB. He "didn't" recruit OL. He took Adam Lane over Derrick Henry and Alex Collins. He had NO speed at WR and the only TE he landed came in with one year of eligibility.
The guy is seriously THE worst evaluter of offensive talent to ever be hired as a HBC. But again, he basically told us this in his opening presser, but nobody wanted to listen.
Pease is responsible for a good bit of that. He looked at both of those dudes and decided he wanted them to play QB for him. 95% of this board and others saw both and said 'WTF' right away. Muschamp should have vetoed that decision instantly, though i know head guys obviously have to give their assistants a say.
FWIW La Tech is D1 ball. I keep seeing it referenced as he wasn't playing D1 ball this past year.
Not one person has said Driskel is a good QB. I haven't seen that anywhere. But how was Holtz able to get 4000 yards passing and 27 TD passes out of him in just one season and while in UFs offense under Muschamp we wouldn't have been able to do that against air?
Not one person has said Driskel is a good QB. I haven't seen that anywhere. But how was Holtz able to get 4000 yards passing and 27 TD passes out of him in just one season and while in UFs offense under Muschamp we wouldn't have been able to do that against air?
Very glad to see Driskel find some success and (I assume) happiness post-Muschamp. He was always a good student athlete and never spoke ill of UF or Gator fans despite some pretty shitty treatment.
It's just amazing how these QBs move on from Chump and are able to do pretty well for themselves...
That all being said, I was really happy this year watching Grier play as our QB instead of JD, too bad that couldn't last due to our longstanding curse.
It's just amazing how these QBs move on from Chump and are able to do pretty well for themselves...
That all being said, I was really happy this year watching Grier play as our QB instead of JD, too bad that couldn't last due to our longstanding curse.
When we say drop down a level we are referring to his competiton, not dropping down as in from FBS to FCS.
Jeff was always a better Gator, than the fans/students that constantly dissed on him,,, JMOHO of course. -- And I'm also very happy for him and his current success.
-- And I'm also very happy for him and his current success. 
