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What happened to Larry Fedora?

He lost Gene Chizik, he was really helping them turn the corner fielding a defense.
 
He has turned UNC into a dumpster fire.

They have a ton of injuries this season but he is what he is I think. Kind of like Mullen - he will get a good record out of that team every 4 years or so probably with them a little over .500 most seasons. I guess Mullen has had a little more success at Miss State.
 
Good, then we could get him cheap.. If anyone wouldn't want his offense here again their out of touch with what we are really dealing with..

He just needs a good DC to help him on that side, but that would come much easier for him and any coach at UF.. Except for Mac it seems, but that's because we have to hold teams to one or less TDs just to win any single game
 
Actually I'm sure the athletes are less enthused now that they actually have to take classes that have a modicum of class work - they might even have to SIT in a real classroom with a friggin professor no less

- barbaric
 
We need one of these younger offensive minded guys to come in as soon as we can realistically do it.. The recruits would follow with it, we have players, we just need the money up to get another elite coach again.
 
We need one of these younger offensive minded guys to come in as soon as we can realistically do it.. The recruits would follow with it, we have players, we just need the money up to get another elite coach again.

Where do you think our new OC for next year will come from? A smaller non-power 5 school or someone on staff already?
 
it won't matter, just like Muschamps last year.. except with a much worse defense
 
I'm actually shocked that a once promising head coaching candidate has flamed out into a total disaster. Usually, we hire them first.
 
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I'm just thinking of some of the coaches we have listed back when Urb left and as Muschamp was fired. I've been guilty of claiming a few myself

Art Briles---Fired
Rich Rod---getting by
Hugh Freeze---fired
Larry Fedora---hot seat
Kevin Sumlin---warm seat
Dan Mullen---has hit highs and lows
Gus Malzhan--same as above
Charlie Strong---been fired doing good at G6 school. Believe that's his pinnacle.

Right now Fleck, Norvell, Frost, and Fuente are who interest me. That could change, we never know.
 
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I'm just thinking of some of the coaches we have listed back when Urb left and as Muschamp was fired. I've been guilty of claiming a few myself

Art Briles---Fired
Rich Rod---getting by
Hugh Freeze---fired
Larry Fedora---hot seat
Kevin Sumlin---warm seat
Dan Mullen---has hit highs and lows
Gus Malzhan--same as above
Charlie Strong---been fired doing good at G6 school. Believe that's his pinnacle.

Right now Fleck, Norvell, Frost, and Fuente are who interest me. That could change, we never know.

Definitely more misses than hits. Good coaches are rare, really good coaches are very hard to find and there's really only a few great ones.
 
I'm just thinking of some of the coaches we have listed back when Urb left and as Muschamp was fired. I've been guilty of claiming a few myself

Art Briles---Fired
Rich Rod---getting by
Hugh Freeze---fired
Larry Fedora---hot seat
Kevin Sumlin---warm seat
Dan Mullen---has hit highs and lows
Gus Malzhan--same as above
Charlie Strong---been fired doing good at G6 school. Believe that's his pinnacle.

Right now Fleck, Norvell, Frost, and Fuente are who interest me. That could change, we never know.

You have Fedora and Sumlin backwards. Fedora will 100% be there next year and Sumlin is almost guaranteed to be fired unless he goes 9-3. Malzahn I think has done better than people give him credit for.
 
I'd run around naked if we hired P.J. Fleck

I woud go out and buy my own row boat and make it a new hobby, him and Lincoln Riley are the next big ones,..Along with a few others, Rhett Lashlee left Auburn and is at like Uconn now, he will end up being a good offensive mind for someone soon.

We have a number of guys out there that would make us look so much different fast, could recruit and get the most out o the guys we have even with so much talent like a Petersen.. But now we need to work on the defense again too and keep up recruiting there.


Look at our situation from another teams fans perspective, all they see is Mac having no control over his players and important ones, fielding teams worse than his first one, and in year three the offense is 103rd in the nation, same stupid problems, penalties, delay of games, no checks by the QB.. He's won a bunch of close games to keep him from having a really bad looking record.. The rest of the east being worse than us has propped him up to make he casuals only go to that and act like we'd be insane to fire him.. except for this year, now we all see he's done and can't make the team or offense better, and now lost the defense..

Our last two coaches have made us so bad, so often, that the nation thinks we should accept mediocrity as if that's the level we are now. Yet still sign top ten classes and perform the least of any staffs with those classes.. That's coaching, and they aren't good enough.
 
Circumstance certainly plays a factor.

Fedora has done a pretty good job considering what he walked into after the Butch Davis shenanigans.

He has problems at UNC that you expect people to have at a place like that.

I think he’s shown Southern Miss and even at UNC that he has what it takes to run a program and coach offense.

Now, do I think he’s a top tier guy? No. But I think if we had hired him our program would be in a lot better shape.

Fleck? Idk...there’s something appealing about him but also something just...weird. I don’t know what to make of the guy.
 
Fleck would not be atop my wish list, no idea if I am wring or right on that one. Plus zero southern ties.

Paco is just trying to use a low point to demean Fedora. Is he elite? Probably not. Is he 100x better than what we have, abso-f***ing-lutely
 
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Cosign. Idk if Fedora would make us championship caliber, probably wouldn't, but if we had hired him the last two times we'd be in a hell of a lot better shape than we are now. He won at USM and then took over a UNC squad on probation and won 12 games with a complete bum at QB.
 
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I would pass on Fedora. Having a couple of good years out of 10 as a head coach isn't setting yourself up above your peers. I think he is 41-30 there overall. Many coaches can accomplish that in that timespan. His recruiting isn't too bad however considering where he has coached at.
 
I would pass on Fedora. Having a couple of good years out of 10 as a head coach isn't setting yourself up above your peers. I think he is 41-30 there overall. Many coaches can accomplish that in that timespan. His recruiting isn't too bad however considering where he has coached at.

Um McElwain is 44-26.

What’s your point?
 
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Larry had some highly competent offenses here at Florida. I understand he pissed Foley off on the way out.
 
Fedora would do better at UF than our last two coaches, that's really the only important argument here...
 
Like I said. We would be in much better shape with him here.

That doesn’t mean I think he’s got s Saban or Meyer trajectory.

Best case scenario he’s a long-haul guy who has success like Dabo.

Again. Better than Mac.
 
Basically it's a lateral move with higher offense statistics?

I dunno, Larry might be good here. I just think there is better out there.

No, Mac has had Muschamps NFL defenses the last two years and has access to much better athletes at UF than one would have at UNC. You can’t compare a guys record at UNC to a guys record at UF. Flip the two and the records wouldn’t be close.
 
Fleck would not be atop my wish list, no idea if I am wring or right on that one. Plus zero southern ties.

Paco is just trying to use a low point to demean Fedora. Is he elite? Probably not. Is he 100x better than what we have, abso-f***ing-lutely

Not saying I would want Fleck, but the whole zero southern ties thing is nonsense.

Urban had zero, and before LSU Saban had none, and they are two of the best ever. Les Miles won a NC and he had no southern ties.

The nonsense about needing southern ties is why a guy like Muschamp got a job so quickly after failing at UF, and the reason, the coaching in the SEC overall is weak
 
Not saying I would want Fleck, but the whole zero southern ties thing is nonsense.

Urban had zero, and before LSU Saban had none, and they are two of the best ever. Les Miles won a NC and he had no southern ties.

The nonsense about needing southern ties is why a guy like Muschamp got a job so quickly after failing at UF, and the reason, the coaching in the SEC overall is weak

Not totally disagreeing but LSU is a different animal. Saban and Les Miles stockpiled talent there because of how loyal those kids seem to be.
 
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Fleck scares me, I can't get a good read on him, he may be "all talk". I agree that Frost, Brohm, Fuente, Norvell would be on our wish list (if it comes to that)
 
I'd hire Santa. Someone who makes a list and then checks it twice... ;)

ooh-ooh
And then we could move Clarabelle to backup up QB in favor of Rudoff...

Sing both songs to get the points, and the full flavor of the suggestions.. :cool:
 
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Fleck scares me, I can't get a good read on him, he may be "all talk". I agree that Frost, Brohm, Fuente, Norvell would be on our wish list (if it comes to that)

I just don’t know if Fleck’s personality would mesh with the prima dona top tier kids. Not aaying it wouldn’t, but that is one question I have. And no idea why he allowed himself to be backed into a huge buyout at Minnesota, they usually win 7-9 games so going to be hard to show huge improvement.

Frost is quickly becoming my top choice with Fuente right behind. Only fear with Fuente is he inherited and elite DC who would not be coming with him.
 
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LSU always has the Auburn luck, and always, ALWAYS against us... Thats why, last year when that happened, with the rules of the Universe aligning with the Gators, we HAD to offset it and give it back with a fluke botched extra point with a guy of the leg of a titan that could drop kick it through the post from a mile away, yet somehow ONLY Florida can do stupid inexplicable shit like that and lose from it, for decades iv'e been alive and watching them.. and for LSU to win off of it. It never fails, we have the flukiest luck iv'e ever seen even with spurrier in comparison to everyone else in the conference and around the nation.. Even Spurrier pointed out all of his few losses in the Swamp came from ****ed up crazy bounces to make it happen, and always Auburn, the other LSU...


Watch every game around the nation and tell me when you'll see another team miss and extra point to lose a game, much less with the best kicker and a 22nd year Senior punter as the holder from a perfect snap. It's laughable how unlucky we have always been and it's even more amazing we've won as many games and Rings/NC's/Hardware that we have.. and it's why we've never gone undefeated, the arkansas game in 09 was identical to the Ole Miss game with the red zone turnovers that no one forced, inexplicably and at least 2-3 or more in the red zone in each game. We just had too much talent not to overcome it in 09 that day..


No one loses the way the Gators do, and mac is the luckiest coach we've ever had but it's not luck it's just taking advantage of the misfortunes of awful opponents that shouldn't even be competing or in the game with us...
 
Fleck scares me, I can't get a good read on him, he may be "all talk". I agree that Frost, Brohm, Fuente, Norvell would be on our wish list (if it comes to that)


He is all talk, the good kind.. He is in the KNOW of the football circle of knowledge, watch his teams play together and you'll know all you need to find out about him and what he preaches.. His teams play like all the great coaches teams play before they are known, they are completely and totally the opposite of what we watch our talent get wasted doing, they play TOGETHER, they play DISCIPLINED and they play hard. They play SMART, watch them play this weekend in prime time against Michigan State. Classic let down spot for a Spartan team that isn't worth a shit anyway and just beat Michigan in a perfect storm situation literally like us at Auburn in 01.. The weather and back up QB got Michigan beaten, it was two Sabans facing off playing not to lose like every Bama and LSU game... Minnesota could very well upset MSU tomorrow night, watch his team "Row the Boat" tomorrow... No matter if they get beat by 28 or more, you'll see all you need to know about how his teams play in sync and DO NOT beat themselves.. HE wins like all the great coaches do when they are moving up and have teams with much lesser talent and out coach their opponents and keep winning... He's one of the next great ones, I guarantee it.. I will be one of the few not shocked at all, in any way even if they win tomorrow night against Michigan State coming off a win on the road against a top 7 team...


If he was at a place in the SEC like Tennessee it would be BAD NEWS for us, and everyone else around it if it was in the East or at Arkansas or something.. Texas A&M, the SEC doesn't need to see a guy like this. He's better than Franklin and will prove it more and more as time goes by. His guys buy in, truly, are coached well and play like they expect to win. They should really only have one loss in his first year at a down trodden place like f'in Minnesota, sleeping Giants just like what's happening at purdue.. The team they lost too, two very good up and comers coaching at those programs. The Big Ten coaches are FAR greater than the SEC's overall right now with half the talent, literally...
 

Yep. And like I been saying people wanna blame the athletes while giving schools a pass like they aren't the main problem. How here you got the NCAA basically saying they knew UNC had classes set up to funnel athletes to but it's cool because some regular students also took the same classes. LMAO. This is the same organization that likes to remind everybody about the 'student-athlete'
 
So far from what I have seen this year is Brohm is better than Fleck. Heck Purdue beat Minnesota this year.

Frost and Fuente are better than both these guys though.
 
So far from what I have seen this year is Brohm is better than Fleck. Heck Purdue beat Minnesota this year.

Frost and Fuente are better than both these guys though.

You are so biased it’s hilarious.

If Addazzio came back, you’d tell everyone how great he was because you’re Dad got you into a BBQ.

Go back to soccer gay boy. That’s where you belong.

Literally no one respects you.

Die.

Not an actual death but the death of you thinking anyone thinks you’re important.


You’re not.

At all.

You started this thread because Fedora was mean to your pussy when he coached here.

Have a sex change.
 
Brohm is better than Fleck now because of a single game of not very good teams in a funny game that could go either way? Did you watch the game and see how it actually played out?


I'd take Fleck long term immediately right now over that guy, it's like the idiot big ten fans that think Dantonio is still elite somehow or a better coach than Harbaugh because he's beaten him head to head in two flukish games and one just a dead give away from the players giving up a win like none ever seen, not even we've seen from UF over the years...
 
Fedora would do better at UF than our last two coaches, that's really the only important argument here...
I'm just thinking of some of the coaches we have listed back when Urb left and as Muschamp was fired. I've been guilty of claiming a few myself

Art Briles---Fired
Rich Rod---getting by
Hugh Freeze---fired
Larry Fedora---hot seat
Kevin Sumlin---warm seat
Dan Mullen---has hit highs and lows
Gus Malzhan--same as above
Charlie Strong---been fired doing good at G6 school. Believe that's his pinnacle.

Right now Fleck, Norvell, Frost, and Fuente are who interest me. That could change, we never know.
Fascinating to view in retrospect.
 
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