Trevor Bauer vindicated

[FresnoGator]

Trevor Bauer reveals texts, bed video as he and accuser settle lawsuits

Former MLB pitcher Trevor Bauer and Lindsey Hill settled their lawsuits Monday without any money getting exchanged between the two sides.

nypost.com

this dude was accused of assault, and essentially convicted by the media, and in the court of public opinion. It was a complete witchhunt, based on nothing but smoke and innuendo.

He finally gets to give his side of the story publicly. This poor guy has been through the wringer. I firmly believe that those who falsely accuse others of rape/assault need to serve prison time that is commensurate with the actual perpetrators of said accusation.

Although I honestly would not be completely opposed to decapitation ...

 

[Capt Ron 1]

He finally gets to give his side of the story publicly. This poor guy has been through the wringer. I firmly believe that those who falsely accuse others of rape/assault need to serve prison time that is commensurate with the actual perpetrators of said accusation.

Although I honestly would not be completely opposed to decapitation ...

Agreed

 

[Mt.DoraGator]

How do you feel about the 1576 people executed in the US since 1976? How many do you think were innocent? Would you be surprised to know than for every eight people executed one person on death row is exonerated?
If you want to see how innocent people can be railroaded into the death penalty, watch Michal B Jordan in the movie Just Mercy, a true story about a Harvard educated lawyer who moves to Alabama to start the Equal Justice Initiative.
According to your logic, the sheriff and prosecutor in that case should be executed.

 

[FresnoGator]

How do you feel about the 1576 people executed in the US since 1976? How many do you think were innocent? Would you be surprised to know than for every eight people executed one person on death row is exonerated?
If you want to see how innocent people can be railroaded into the death penalty, watch Michal B Jordan in the movie Just Mercy, a true story about a Harvard educated lawyer who moves to Alabama to start the Equal Justice Initiative.
According to your logic, the sheriff and prosecutor in that case should be executed.

I think it's horrible, and I hate injustice. And it doesn't change my stance that people who falsely accuse others should face that penalty themselves. What part of my statement contradicts that? Did the sheriff and prosecutor levy those accusations or did they act on the accusations of others?

In a real life case involving the Duke lacrosse accuser and district attorney, I think they both her and the corrupt district attorney should've faced stiff penalties, beyond him being disbarred ...

 

[Mt.DoraGator]

I think it's horrible, and I hate injustice. And it doesn't change my stance that people who falsely accuse others should face that penalty themselves ...

For once we agree.

 

[dezyDeco]

Trevor Bauer reveals texts, bed video as he and accuser settle lawsuits

Former MLB pitcher Trevor Bauer and Lindsey Hill settled their lawsuits Monday without any money getting exchanged between the two sides.

nypost.com

this dude was accused of assault, and essentially convicted by the media, and in the court of public opinion. It was a complete witchhunt, based on nothing but smoke and innuendo.

He finally gets to give his side of the story publicly. This poor guy has been through the wringer. I firmly believe that those who falsely accuse others of rape/assault need to serve prison time that is commensurate with the actual perpetrators of said accusation.

Although I honestly would not be completely opposed to decapitation ...

You sure don’t hear the Usual Suspects beating their drums about “equality/equity” when it comes to these situations. 🙄

It’s a good thing for Bauer that he records his escapades.

 

[FresnoGator]

For once we agree.

Ha ha first time for everything ...

 

[FresnoGator]

You sure don’t hear the Usual Suspects beating their drums about “equality/equity” when it comes to these situations. 🙄

It’s a good thing for Bauer that he records his escapades.

The chick recorded it independent of him ...

 

[Illegal-shift]

I agree with you on this also Fresno. About time you got something right

And I am a Dodger fan........so Bauer situation was a little personal.

 

[GatorTheo]

Isn't this the story where the girl got $300K from an insurance company for something>

 

[FresnoGator]

Isn't this the story where the girl got $300K from an insurance company for something>

No idea ...

 

[FresnoGator]

I agree with you on this also Fresno. About time you got something right

And I am a Dodger fan........so Bauer situation was a little personal.

I think the Dodgers were complicit in not standing behind him. I think everyone involved in this kangaroo Court is accountable to some extent.

On a personal note, a buddy of mine from high school in New York's daughter is Bauer's agent. She was a friend of his from college at UCLA where she was a gymnast the same time. She is now a successful sports agent ...

 

[dezyDeco]

The chick recorded it independent of him ...

My mistake. But I bet he starts recording everything from now on!!!

Also, to answer another poster’s (Theo) question, the linked article states she got 300K from HER insurance company. Not sure how that works???

 

[Illegal-shift]

I think the Dodgers were complicit in not standing behind him. I think everyone involved in this kangaroo Court is accountable to some extent.

On a personal note, a buddy of mine from high school in New York's daughter is Bauer's agent. She was a friend of his from college at UCLA where she was a gymnast the same time. She is now a successful sports agent ...

Ya, that's part of the whole problem with this issue. As soon as a women makes an accusation everyone starts to distance themselves in case its true.

Sexual abuse is a terrible thing that deserves to be taken seriously in every instance......but automatically assuming the man is guilty is not the answer.

So what does your buddy think of him? The press makes him out to be kind of a jerk (even before the accusations), but I usually take those kind of reports with a grain of salt.

 

[FresnoGator]

Ya, that's part of the whole problem with this issue. As soon as a women makes an accusation everyone starts to distance themselves in case its true.

Sexual abuse is a terrible thing that deserves to be taken seriously in every instance......but automatically assuming the man is guilty is not the answer.

So what does your buddy think of him? The press makes him out to be kind of a jerk (even before the accusations), but I usually take those kind of reports with a grain of salt.

Yes, real and actual sexual abuse is awful, and it should be deterred and punished when it happens. I think there needs to be a deterrent for false accusations, which should similarly be punished maybe even a little more harshly to act as an actual deterrent to making false claims.

I have not talked to my friend about it. He's a gastroenterologist now in Monterey California.. He and his daughter are very close and if she supports Bauer, I would guarantee you that my friend does as well ...

 

[GatorTheo]

Stories like this make me think of the Kitna kid. Who knows how much damage was done to his life and his future.

 

[BamaFan1137]

How do you feel about the 1576 people executed in the US since 1976?

Agree it's shameful. How is it not more?

How many people committed cold-blooded premeditated murder over that time frame? Many of them truly sick and disgusting acts where they raped, tortured and tormented their victims.

Would you be surprised to know than for every eight people executed one person on death row is exonerated?

Exonerated for their crime or simply had their sentence of death commuted?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

How do you feel about the 1576 people executed in the US since 1976?

Oh good, libs from Swamp Talk are back.

 

[Mdfgator]

yeah, no fan of fake accusations. Throw the book at people that do that. Awful.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

How do you feel about the 1576 people executed in the US since 1976? How many do you think were innocent? Would you be surprised to know than for every eight people executed one person on death row is exonerated?
If you want to see how innocent people can be railroaded into the death penalty, watch Michal B Jordan in the movie Just Mercy, a true story about a Harvard educated lawyer who moves to Alabama to start the Equal Justice Initiative.
According to your logic, the sheriff and prosecutor in that case should be executed.

How do I feel? I worry ONLY about the victims...not the criminals. It is SO HARD to get the death penalty...I am 100% good with someone put to death for killing others. It is NOT abou tthem..it is about protecting the innocent people!

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Stories like this make me think of the Kitna kid. Who knows how much damage was done to his life and his future.

He did not get the death penalty. And what he did WAS stupid. You have to be on video holding your ID up to the camera to be convicted and get the DP these days. These bleeding heart libs NEVER, EVER mention the victims

 

[Gator Fever]

Stories like this make me think of the Kitna kid. Who knows how much damage was done to his life and his future.

Was that just a case they thought was weak enough finally not to take to trial? Never heard the specifics but I know from working with the state system previously in FL that state cases involving child porn get dropped sometimes even though the stuff was clearly on their computer and downloaded by the computer.

 

[Mt.DoraGator]

Agree it's shameful. How is it not more?

How many people committed cold-blooded premeditated murder over that time frame? Many of them truly sick and disgusting acts where they raped, tortured and tormented their victims.



Exonerated for their crime or simply had their sentence of death commuted?

Exonerated and released from prison.

 

[NavigatorII]

Yes, real and actual sexual abuse is awful, and it should be deterred and punished when it happens. I think there needs to be a deterrent for false accusations, which should similar.y be punished maybe even a little more harshly to act as an actual deterrent to making false claims.

I have not talked to my friend about it. He's a gastroenterologist now in Monterey California.. He and his daughter are very close and if she supports Bauer, I would guarantee you that my friend does as well ...

I've personally experienced this. Luckily, I had pages of screen shots of personal exchanges from Match.com. Buyers remorse? I got a call one day from an investigator to come downtown. I thought it had to do with a lawsuit regarding my best friend's family against a bar when my friend died resulting from flipping his SUV after leaving the bar. I was shocked when he started questioning me. I told him we absolutely had sex but it was consensual. He stopped questioning me after I told him I had the receipts and left him with a parting question. "Did she explain how I ended up on my back during her reverse cowboy move? He said, "we'll be in touch". Never heard a peep again. 😂

 

[fatman76]

Trevor Bauer reveals texts, bed video as he and accuser settle lawsuits

Former MLB pitcher Trevor Bauer and Lindsey Hill settled their lawsuits Monday without any money getting exchanged between the two sides.

nypost.com

this dude was accused of assault, and essentially convicted by the media, and in the court of public opinion. It was a complete witchhunt, based on nothing but smoke and innuendo.

He finally gets to give his side of the story publicly. This poor guy has been through the wringer. I firmly believe that those who falsely accuse others of rape/assault need to serve prison time that is commensurate with the actual perpetrators of said accusation.

Although I honestly would not be completely opposed to decapitation ...

Saw this yesterday.

I don't baseball so this is the first I'd heard of it, but fVck that money grubbing crazy person.

The part that grinds my gears is the disbelief she's going to cause for any poor woman who happens to find herself in a real situation like this. All so she could extort him for cash.

And she's cute, but I don't think she's "Dodgers star pitcher" cute. He sold out for a solid 6-7.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Exonerated and released from prison.

Statistics don't lie...but statisticians certainly do.

There are 2,400+ people on death row in this country at the moment. The US executes 46 people on average per year.

So when 1 of the 46 are executed, you're claiming that 8 of the 2,400 are exonerated? You see the folly here, right?

A) not sure I believe your numbers
B) if true, that would tend to show the system is working

If a person purposely kills someone and does so with premeditation, we should absolutely kill them back.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Would you be surprised to know than for every eight people executed one person on death row is exonerated?

BTW, do you know what the #1 killer is for inmates on death row?

Old age and natural causes.

 

[Gator Fever]

Statistics don't lie...but statisticians certainly do.

There are 2,400+ people on death row in this country at the moment. The US executes 46 people on average per year.

So when 1 of the 46 are executed, you're claiming that 8 of the 2,400 are exonerated? You see the folly here, right?

A) not sure I believe your numbers
B) if true, that would tend to show the system is working

If a person purposely kills someone and does so with premeditation, we should absolutely kill them back.

Yep his numbers are misleading as hell but I do think DNA has saved enough people to where the death penalty should be off the table for those cases where there isn't good DNA evidence or good witnesses to what happened. My guess is there are very few cases like this in the past 20 years or so.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Yep his numbers are misleading as hell but I do think DNA has saved enough people to where the death penalty should be off the table for those cases where there isn't good DNA evidence or good witnesses to what happened. My guess is there are very few cases like this in the past 20 years or so.

As Bama pointed out...I do not think there are many mistake's being made anymore. They have to have DNA, confession, film evidence...and pass the crazy test.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Exonerated and released from prison.

As I expected, your numbers are inaccurate.

Since 1973, at least 190 people have been exonerated from death row in the U.S., according to the Death Penalty Information Center (DPIC).

Innocence and the Death Penalty

We currently represent people on death row with strong claims of innocence and support coalitions working to ban the death penalty.

innocenceproject.org

If your numbers were accurate (8 exonerated for every 1 executed) and we execute 46 per year on average, the number exonerated would be...

8*46*50= 18,400 people exonerated??? (8 exonerated people * the 46 people executed annually * 50 years since 1973).

But the link above clearly says 190 people have been exonerated since 1973. LOL, you guys are always fast and loose with your "facts."

On average a person waits 19.1 years on death row in this country before being executed...and that number is rising quickly.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Yep his numbers are misleading as hell but I do think DNA has saved enough people to where the death penalty should be off the table for those cases where there isn't good DNA evidence or good witnesses to what happened. My guess is there are very few cases like this in the past 20 years or so.

I understand where you're coming from but I can't say that I agree. You have confessions, audio or video evidence, all sorts of digital/data evidence...and dozens of other types of evidence.

DNA is awesome but it's not always available. It usually isn't in fact especially in a shooting.

Eye witness testimony is apparently the least reliable evidence offered.

 

[Gator Fever]

I understand where you're coming from but I can't say that I agree. You have confessions, audio or video evidence, all sorts of digital/data evidence...and dozens of other types of evidence.

DNA is awesome but it's not always available. It usually isn't in fact especially in a shooting.

Eye witness testimony is apparently the least reliable evidence offered.

Agree video evidence is a lock but Imagine being one of those people that DNA showed years later they weren't the killer though. I think it's better to let some really bad people do life than killing any person innocent of murder. I wonder if DNA has shown someone unjustly put to death yet or was the evidence always discarded or never tested again after execution in these death penalty cases.

 

[FresnoGator]

I've personally experienced this. Luckily, I had pages of screen shots of personal exchanges from Match.com. Buyers remorse? I got a call one day from an investigator to come downtown. I thought it had to do with a lawsuit regarding my best friend's family against a bar when my friend died resulting from flipping his SUV after leaving the bar. I was shocked when he started questioning me. I told him we absolutely had sex but it was consensual. He stopped questioning me after I told him I had the receipts and left him with a parting question. "Did she explain how I ended up on my back during her reverse cowboy move? He said, "we'll be in touch". Never heard a peep again. 😂

Your screen name will explain the last move ...

 

[BamaFan1137]

Agree video evidence is a lock but Imagine being one of those people that DNA showed years later they weren't the killer though. I think it's better to let some really bad people do life than killing any person innocent of murder. I wonder if DNA has shown someone unjustly put to death yet or was the evidence always discarded or never tested again after execution in these death penalty cases.

OTOH, DNA that doesn't match doesn't always mean that a person isn't guilty. If certainly could tell us that in some cases but in others it wouldn't.

If person X kills person Y in a room where person Z has been many times, it makes sense that not all DNA evidence would match X.

 

[NavigatorII]

OTOH, DNA that doesn't match doesn't always mean that a person isn't guilty. If certainly could tell us that in some cases but in others it wouldn't.

If person X kills person Y in a room where person Z has been many times, it makes sense that not all DNA evidence would match X.

I'm sure my DNA is all over MDFer's mom. I own that woman.😂

 

[BCSpell]

You sure don’t hear the Usual Suspects beating their drums about “equality/equity” when it comes to these situations. 🙄

It’s a good thing for Bauer that he records his escapades.

That will be the come back lawsuit, that he recorded her without her permission and has now out it out into the public domain.

 

[NavigatorII]

Stories like this make me think of the Kitna kid. Who knows how much damage was done to his life and his future.

It's a shame that garbage happened. That kid looked to have some real talent. I'll bet Napier is facepalming hard.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I recently had a case where I arrested someone for rape. He hasn't been convicted YET but he absolutely did it. The victim was discovered in his room, beat to hell and she named him as her rapist. The DNA all points to him as well.

In 2012, he and two of his gang buddies murdered his 20 year old brother (his own brother ffs) over a drug debt. He was convicted of felony murder in 2014. He got 20 years.

His type of sentence is referred to as a "split 20." That means 5 years in prison, 5 years on probation and the rest just magically disappears.

If you premeditatedly murder your brother over some BS like this, the state should murder you. And not just brothers or family, obviously.

Once you show that you're willing to steal someone else's life, unjustifiably and with malice, there's never going to be an appropriate time to release you back into society. And since we can't release you back into society, why should we allow such a person to live and burden the rest of society?

 

[FresnoGator]

I recently had a case where I arrested someone for rape. He hasn't been convicted YET but he absolutely did it. The victim was discovered in his room, beat to hell and she named him as her rapist. The DNA all points to him as well.

In 2012, he and two of his gang buddies murdered his 20 year old brother (his own brother ffs) over a drug debt. He was convicted of felony murder in 2014. He got 20 years.

His type of sentence is referred to as a "split 20." That means 5 years in prison, 5 years on probation and the rest just magically disappears.

If you premeditatedly murder your brother over some BS like this, the state should murder you. And not just brothers or family, obviously.

Once you show that you're willing to steal someone else's life, unjustifiably and with malice, there's never going to be an appropriate time to release you back into society. And since we can't release you back into society, why should we allow such a person to live and burden the rest of society?

Unredeemable the only answer is decapitation …