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The Woman Who Created The Term "Woke"...

She coined the term she should know the original meaning and intent.

Yes, the word has taken on a different meaning. No, it is not a code word for black.

I used to think the Woke AF t-shirts were kinda funny. Now, not so much.
 
She coined the term she should know the original meaning and intent.

Agreed

Yes, the word has taken on a different meaning. No, it is not a code word for black.

Who/what was the driving force behind the "social justice" movement that made the term widely recognized?
Black people.

Michael Brown, George Floyd, BLM...

I used to think the Woke AF t-shirts were kinda funny. Now, not so much.

You thought it was a "joke"..Black people weren't joking

Now you're the one telling others what the terms means? 🤣
 
Agreed



Who/what was the driving force behind the "social justice" movement that made the term widely recognized?
Black people.

Michael Brown, George Floyd, BLM...



You thought it was a "joke"..Black people weren't joking

Now you're the one telling others what the terms means? 🤣
The word became more common in the yoga community long before George Floyd. And, the Woke AF shirts showed up there long before the social justice movement. So did shirts like Spiritual Gangster.

My wife taught yoga for a long time so I’m not just making this up.

But to say a word that has become associate with liberal policies, social justice, etc. is exclusive code for black is reaching. There are a lot of people of many races that would consider themselves woke.
 
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The word became more common in the yoga community long before George Floyd. And, the Woke AF shirts showed up there long before the social justice movement. So did shirts like Spiritual Gangster.

I must have misunderstood when you acknowledged Badu coined the term in 2008
And it had nothing to do with yoga

BLM stated in 2013 so when exactly did the yoga movement take up the term? LOL


My wife taught yoga for a long time so I’m not just making this up.

I'm sure you're not...What exactly did it mean in the yoga community?

But to say a word that has become associate with liberal policies, social justice, etc. is exclusive code for black is reaching. There are a lot of people of many races that would consider themselves woke.

How did it "become" that? Who decided that?

if republicans coin the term conservative to describe their ideology and others redefine it to mean racist
Does that mean it miraculously means racist because a group attempts to define it?

I would suspect that you wouldn't agree with that re-definition of "conservative" but are OK with it when it re-defines "woke".

What's the distinction in your opinion?
 
I must have misunderstood when you acknowledged Badu coined the term in 2008
And it had nothing to do with yoga

BLM stated in 2013 so when exactly did the yoga movement take up the term? LOL




I'm sure you're not...What exactly did it mean in the yoga community?



How did it "become" that? Who decided that?

if republicans coin the term conservative to describe their ideology and others redefine it to mean racist
Does that mean it miraculously means racist because a group attempts to define it?

I would suspect that you wouldn't agree with that re-definition of "conservative" but are OK with it when it re-defines "woke".

What's the distinction in your opinion?
So how about this. We are both wrong. Badu didn’t coin the term. It was used by singer Huddie Ledbetter in 1938.

In the yoga world it was used as a term to imply clarity. As if someone is seeing clearly spiritually, etc. In fairness, I’m not a big yoga person but was around it enough. As far as when, I’m honestly not sure but I heard it long before George Floyd.

But the term woke, gained mainstream popularity much more recently, and yes, has been bastardized.

It may have started as a term used by the black community, but it is far more reaching now. In other words, it’s become a term that is not exclusive in reference to black people, but rather an ideology. Words change meaning and interpretation all the time.

The term is its current societal context goes beyond racism towards the black community.
 
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It may have started as a term used by the black community, but it is far more reaching now. In other words, it’s become a term that is not exclusive in reference to black people, but rather an ideology. Words change meaning and interpretation all the time.

And btw, it can still mean both. But the vast majority now use it as a description of liberal ideology and social outlook in general. That's the reality and it's unaffected by people's feelings.
 
So how about this. We are both wrong. Badu didn’t coin the term. It was used by singer Huddie Ledbetter in 1938.

Who used the term in the same vernacular as Badu...social justice

Black American folk singer-songwriter Huddie Ledbetter, a.k.a. Lead Belly, used the phrase "stay woke" as part of a spoken afterward to a 1938 recording of his song "Scottsboro Boys", which tells the story of nine black teenagers and young men falsely accused of raping two white women in Alabama in 1931.

Woke - Wikipedia​




In the yoga world it was used as a term to imply clarity. As if someone is seeing clearly spiritually, etc. In fairness, I’m not a big yoga person but was around it enough. As far as when, I’m honestly not sure but I heard it long before George Floyd.

Not before Ledbetter though, i hope? 😁

But the term woke, gained mainstream popularity much more recently, and yes, has been bastardized.

It may have started as a term used by the black community, but it is far more reaching now. In other words, it’s become a term that is not exclusive in reference to black people, but rather an ideology. Words change meaning and interpretation all the time.

I think everyone agrees with your statement...but that change is certainly available to be scrutinized
By your own admission the term "woke" has existed for almost a hundred years as a social justice term about racial discrimination

Whether its the progressives broadening the meaning to all types of social justice or conservatives trying to turn that meaning into everything they oppose ideologically

More important than recognizing that words can change meaning over time is what's the motivation for the change?

Badu's redefinition actually reduced the direct racial intent of the word from Ledbetter

The conservative redefinition of the word seemed motivated by the increased use of the term, in the same spirit of Badu & Ledbetter, by minority progressives


The term is its current societal context goes beyond racism towards the black community.

And how long has that been...like the last 2 or 3 years?
For almost a hundred years it hasn't any popular context other than the black community and racial awareness
 
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