So with Pitino out, is Calipari next?
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Not a chance imo - even if he had an assistant tied up in this stuff. Pitino was only forced out because of the accumulation of stuff under his watch.
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UK hasn't been named in the investigation and I don't expect them too. I doubt you will see anything surface on Duke, UK, Kansas & UNC for obvious reasons.
However I would think a guy like Bruce Pearl is a bit nervous right about now.
However I would think a guy like Bruce Pearl is a bit nervous right about now.
You think the head coach is completely unaware of what one of his assistant coaches is doing? I'm not sure I buy that.
You think Bruce Pearl had zero idea on what Chuck Person was/is doing?
No but KY wouldn't fire him unless there was 100% proof he knew about it. I think its 50/50 whether Pearl survives this. If someone rolls on Pearl he is gone I would think.
Do you really think the Feds GAF about perceived college blue bloods? This isn't the spineless NCAA, it's the FBI.
By NCAA bylaws, they are required to know. And are responsible for the action of their coaches
You keep on saying this but you have no clue what you are talking about.
If you actually read the federal
Indictment, the government makes it pretty clear that the motives of the Auburn assistant coach were simply based on wanting more money in his own pockets than what Auburn was paying him.
The assistant coach did what he did to benefit himself...not Pearl or anyone else
That is easy to say but really isn't reality many times. There have been quite a few head coaches that didn't get into any trouble for something one of their assistants did.
To MJs point they are the head coach. They should know what their assistant coaches are doing and should be held accountable. I think it depends on the situation. You are correct that many times the head coach doesn't get into trouble. Again I think that depends on the situation and after an investigation is completed.
That is typically ONLY if the HC took corrective action immediate upon finding out, and if it was limited. e.g. It can't go on for years and the HC claim he didn't know. There can be no plausible deniability under NCAA rules. I think there is going to adequate evidence that these HCs knew or should have known what was going on.
Louisville was quick to fire Pitino and their athletic director because they are likely facing the most trouble from the NCAA based on the information released.
Even Dick Vitale has mentioned the possibility of Louisville getting the death penalty. Pat Forde of Yahoo Sports has said the NCAA should give Louisville the death penalty
Even Dick Vitale has mentioned the possibility of Louisville getting the death penalty. Pat Forde of Yahoo Sports has said the NCAA should give Louisville the death penalty
I doubt we ever see the death penalty again, but Louisville would be at the top of the list. I think they would also have to prove that the school was culpable and I doubt that happens in this case. Looks like Adidas is trying to get their piece of the pie and found some willing players.
The FBI has recorded conversations of a Louisville assistant coach conspiring with Addidas to give a recruit in the 2017 class 100k and a recruit in the 2019 class 150k. These conversations were recorded just a few weeks after Louisville was put on probation for hiring prostitutes to have sex with recruits.
That is enough to give any school the death penalty if the NCAA wanted
That is enough to give any school the death penalty if the NCAA wanted
What?
Please.
So you’re telling me if I’m an assistant coach, my head coach should know what I’m doing at all times, and if he doesn’t, he should get fired?
Let’s say I’m the OC at a school. My coach and I are close, hangout outside of work regularly, really get along.
But on Thursday nights me and some of my buddies not related to the program like to buy an 8-ball of blow and bring over some girls from the local “I ****ed up so now I go here” community college and snort coke off their asses.
Coach is supposed to know I do that?
Please. You are such a goody-two-shoes pansy naive little Nancy boy.
It gets to not allowing a HC to be able to claim innocence over the malfeasance committed by his assistants. The HC is responsible for the NCAA behavior of his assistant.
The boss is responsible for what happens to his organization under his watch -- not necessarily morally or legally -- but in a professional sense. That's why CEOs sometimes resign over scandals that happen within their companies, even if they are not personally responsible. That's part of being the boss. Having one of your OCs get busted for doing coke in his personal life probably isn't going to get the HC fired, but if the program is constantly plagued with scandals that embarrass the school and alumni, eventually the HC is professionally accountable.
If your players get busted doing something they shouldn't be doing, and they are later declared ineligible, you get the wins docked from the HCs record, even if he had nothing to do with it. Just ask Bobby Bowden. He's still complaining about it: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...-bowden-fsu-wins-mike-bianchi-0514-story.html
“I’d like to have my wins back,” Bowden said when I contacted him earlier this week. “Our case was something our coaches had nothing to do with and had no idea was going on until after it came out. And once it was discovered, our administration did everything in its power to get to the bottom of it.”
I’m not disagreeing with how that works, but there have been statements made that they are supposed to know everything that goes on.
That’s ridiculous.
Damn it I don't know of my employees snorting a line of coke off some JUCO girls azz, I'm going to be pissed.
It all depends on your boss.
Probably why they fired Pitino. He totally new about the girls and blow.
He brought both of them.
But if any one of our assistants new of the credit card fraud he would do a 180 and say it isn't on Mac.
Yes that is correct. But the old saying goes "once a cheater always a cheater".
pssssst. hey fbi. I saw leonard hamilton walking around in new adidas gear.
Lol no.
I will say he doesn’t deserve to get fired for it (if it shows that he really didn’t know) but I need a breath a fresh air that I highly doubt simply taking plsycslling away from Nuss is going to cure.
Whatever keeps Corral committed is fine with me.
Isn't it kinda weird that Pitino is/was one of Billy's mentors. Always think of them as having very different moral compasses.
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