ADVERTISEMENT

SDS Way-Too-Early SECE Predictions.

Michi-Gator said:
Why would one want Brady Hoke as their HBC???

Do you know who his OC was when he was fired from MeatChicken?
Click to expand...


Yeah. Same dude who choked like a dog with a chicken bone in his throat last year in Knoxville, right?

Hoke is already there as DL coach( hired in the off season) so there wouldn't be much disruption. Plus, he has done a phenomenal job recruiting Top DL so far this current class.. I put him at the end of my list as he would be 4th choice.


I am hoping that the new A/D is already making himself known to Kelly, Gruden and Miles ( and a few others).

He has already told Lyle that 8 regular season wins is simply not enough so either Lyle gets better or UT gets a replacement. .
 
if UT fired Butch Jones to hire Brady f'in Hoke it would be far worse than LSU basically not even firing miles and keeping their same auto L to bama with the same style every season and then finally losing to our average at best team without him and his magic that reversed to our side... Which was supposed to be the whole reason they fired Miles, because the offense was outdated and they couldn't compete with Bama, then went and did the same exact thing against them again or even worse and against us then hired the guy... If UT fired Jones to hire Hoke the nation would laugh at them and it would be too difficult for them to explain that mess after all the bad hires they have had since Fulmer got escorted out
 
and why is UGA always expected to win the East like 90% of the time over the years when they have only beaten UF like 4 times in the last 20 years, and that was only because of the coach we had, or else they would be about as bad off as vandy against us in that span and shit they even got pounded by Muschamp his last year and to TREON, TWICE with about as many pass attempts as Grossman used to have attempts in the first 4 drives or less in two full games..
 
-MDVOL said:
Got Dawgs winning the East and UT finishing 5th.

Only consolation would be the following year we would have Jon Gruden, Chip Kelly, Les Miles or Brady Hoke as H/C.


https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...look-sec-east-georgia-pick-not-confident-one/
Click to expand...

Hoke and Miles are awful.

Gruden is not coming. Ever. Wtf?

Chip Kelly may be your best bet and I sincerely doubt he would go there.

He hates recruiting, and he would have to recruit like a mad man there to compete with the other conference and regional schools in a state that's not flush with talent.
 
if kelly comes back to college, it certainly won't be UT that lures him back... They are facing such an uphill battle, they had their shot last year to do some damage control from many years of fading away and underperforming and being pretty much out of the relevance picture for titles or really even any big wins.. They must have a really awful record against top ten teams or ranked teams period the last number of years unless the opponent was SC..I mean you really have to put it in perspective for their fall, they couldn't even beat our worst teams and it stretched to 11 years and one choke coached half from being 12 again with a 3 TD lead in front of their last ditch effort vol. 2 checkerboard crowd and special uniforms.. Much less beaten anyone of relevance ranked highly, they have lost to UF and UGA so many times now, still didn't even win double digit games in all these years... Their best year and roster since like 01 they won 9 games and went to the music city bowl, while finally beating both UF and UGA with it taking very unusual things to even do it for both.. I just don't see UT doing anything positive or being close to back more than they are close to even more of a down tread for the immediate future...They lost a lot from what was already pretty mediocre everywhere other than their offense that was good... Their defense was woeful at the end of the year again.. They are kind of starting all over again this year after losing dobbs and others... The best thing for them is that they are the exact opposite of last year in expectations and are picked about as low as I can ever remember pre season in the east alone...
 
Dannygator1989 said:
Hoke and Miles are awful.

Gruden is not coming. Ever. Wtf?

Chip Kelly may be your best bet and I sincerely doubt he would go there.

He hates recruiting, and he would have to recruit like a mad man there to compete with the other conference and regional schools in a state that's not flush with talent.
Click to expand...

Dannygator1989 said:
Hoke and Miles are awful.

Gruden is not coming. Ever. Wtf?

Chip Kelly may be your best bet and I sincerely doubt he would go there.

He hates recruiting, and he would have to recruit like a mad man there to compete with the other conference and regional schools in a state that's not flush with talent.
Click to expand...



Gruden could have been the coach before Kiffrat. But he wanted a No-Interference clause from the A/D to allow him a free hand and the AD feared surrendering so much power to one man. Everything else had been agreed to.

Looking at Miles to be a Stop-Gap coach. He's good for about 4-5 years. Allow him to win 10-11 games a year before sliding him out the door for someone better.


Fulmer is back with some title. Let him recruit. He was one of the best in the game and he dearly LOVED Recruiting. Hoke and Wells should be kept as assistants due to their abilities.



Many a year the state of Tennessee didn't produce squat as far as D-1 recruits and the coaches had to go out of state. But the H/S Coaches have picked up their game. For 2 consecutive years, the # 2 OT came from Tennessee. This year, the #2 SDE also came from Tennessee.


Not too many years back, the state had a hard time coming up with a TOP 15 for Rivals. But times, they are a changing. Nick Satan is opening a new Mercedes dealership in Nashville to try to get in good with all that up and coming talent from Brentwood Academy and other Nashville schools. $1.00 a year leases have closed the deal for many a recruit and their family.


Here is the list of Rivals Top 40 for the state of Tennessee. While not asimpressive as Florida, Lyle has the bulk of the talent coming to Knoxville to play.




Gruden could have been the coach before Kiffrat. But he wanted a No-Interference clause from the A/D to allow him a free hand and the AD feared surrendering so much power to one man. Everything else had been agreed to.

Looking at Miles to be a Stop-Gap coach. He's good for about 4-5 years. Allow him to win 10-11 games a year before sliding him out the door for someone better.


Fulmer is back with some title. Let him recruit. He was one of the best in the game and he dearly LOVED Recruiting. Hoke and Wells should be kept as assistants due to their abilities.



Gruden could have been the coach before Kiffrat. But he wanted a No-Interference clause from the A/D to allow him a free hand and the AD feared surrendering so much power to one man. Everything else had been agreed to.

Looking at Miles to be a Stop-Gap coach. He's good for about 4-5 years. Allow him to win 10-11 games a year before sliding him out the door for someone better.


Fulmer is back with some title. Let him recruit. He was one of the best in the game and he dearly LOVED Recruiting. Hoke and Wells should be kept as assistants due to their abilities.



Many a year the state of Tennessee didn't produce squat as far as D-1 recruits and the coaches had to go out of state. But the H/S Coaches have picked up their game. For 2 consecutive years, the # 2 OT came from Tennessee. This year, the #2 SDE also came from Tennessee.


https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2018/tennessee
 
46885 said:
if kelly comes back to college, it certainly won't be UT that lures him back... They are facing such an uphill battle, they had their shot last year to do some damage control from many years of fading away and underperforming and being pretty much out of the relevance picture for titles or really even any big wins.. They must have a really awful record against top ten teams or ranked teams period the last number of years unless the opponent was SC..I mean you really have to put it in perspective for their fall, they couldn't even beat our worst teams and it stretched to 11 years and one choke coached half from being 12 again with a 3 TD lead in front of their last ditch effort vol. 2 checkerboard crowd and special uniforms.. Much less beaten anyone of relevance ranked highly, they have lost to UF and UGA so many times now, still didn't even win double digit games in all these years... Their best year and roster since like 01 they won 9 games and went to the music city bowl, while finally beating both UF and UGA with it taking very unusual things to even do it for both.. I just don't see UT doing anything positive or being close to back more than they are close to even more of a down tread for the immediate future...They lost a lot from what was already pretty mediocre everywhere other than their offense that was good... Their defense was woeful at the end of the year again.. They are kind of starting all over again this year after losing dobbs and others... The best thing for them is that they are the exact opposite of last year in expectations and are picked about as low as I can ever remember pre season in the east alone...
Click to expand...



Lyle is NOT an SEC coach. He could do well in the MAC, AAC, or D-AA football. He freezes up at the critical moments.


For the last 2 years, he has had the best team in the SECE at the start of the season. The injury bug began with a new goober hired to take care of the stadium turf. He's done a crappy job and it's led to countless high ankle sprains by OL RBs and W/Rs as they are trying to make blocks downfield and the turf gives way. Then there's all the shoulder injuries caused by the middle-school offense Lyle and 70% of NCAA coaches run now. Causes defensive players to have to reach a lot farther and make tackles with their arms against the run. By the end of the 2nd game last year we were down to a walk-on playing MLB, a walk-on playing DT and the fifth string "Sam" Linebacker playing the position due all the injuries. Against Florida, we started one true freshman at C/B( pulled his R/S) and tried to get somebody in that pile of wreckage known as our C/B depth to play the other position. due to injury to Cam Sutton and others.

Had a true Freshman playing safety against you as well.( he should be moved to L/B. He hits like a freight train.) But gets lost badly on pass coverage. In limited play he made 22 tackles last year. 19 were solo



Lyle did NO-CONTACT drills in spring and fall practices in the hope of cutting down on the number of injuries and surgeries that had been the norm for his teams in his 1st 3 years of coaching at UT. Things went fine until the first time they had to hit.
 
I would take Hoke on my staff as a position coach/recruiter, no doubt. I mean look at the NFL draft this past year, those were all players he recruited that loaded the first couple of rounds. But he is like Ogre in my opinion, should never be elevated beyond that.

Gruden makes ridiculous cash for his MNF gig, my guess is he never coaches again.

Miles can recruit well but so does Butch. Why take a 100 year step backward offensively?

Chip to me is the best coach available, and I won't rule out UT. But as mentioned, he would be much better off at an ND, UF type that recruits itself to a degree. Keep hearing TAMU is the job he will end up with. Then I will cry for weeks when we fire Mac one year later, Chip would dominate at UF
 
Gruden will never coach again and quite frankly he hasn't coached in so long I'm not sure he would be a good hire anyways especially since he has never been a college head coach.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sadgator and TennesseeGator
-MDVOL said:
Yeah. Same dude who choked like a dog with a chicken bone in his throat last year in Knoxville, right?

Hoke is already there as DL coach( hired in the off season) so there wouldn't be much disruption. Plus, he has done a phenomenal job recruiting Top DL so far this current class.. I put him at the end of my list as he would be 4th choice.


I am hoping that the new A/D is already making himself known to Kelly, Gruden and Miles ( and a few others).

He has already told Lyle that 8 regular season wins is simply not enough so either Lyle gets better or UT gets a replacement. .
Click to expand...

Kelly will be going to either ND or Texas A&M if the coaches there don't go 9-3 this season.

As far as Tenn you are the biggest question mark because you do have some talent on the roster and that QB also looked pretty good in the spring game. I think it may be a pretty good game in the Swamp this year unlike some of my fellow Gator fans.
 
Gator Fever said:
Kelly will be going to either ND or Texas A&M if the coaches there don't go 9-3 this season.

As far as Tenn you are the biggest question mark because you do have some talent on the roster and that QB also looked pretty good in the spring game. I think it may be a pretty good game in the Swamp this year unlike some of my fellow Gator fans.
Click to expand...

Don't even talk like that, if we lose to Michigan and UT at home, shits going to get messy in a hurry
 
Gruden...he's not leaving that cushion job at ESPN and MNF.

Hell I'm surprised you didn't mention Bill Cower like y'all have in the past.

Chip is a good possibility.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sadgator
Am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if South Carolina wins it? I know, I know. But that Bentley kid might be one of the best QB's in the country by the end of the year and Muschamp's defense will be legit as always. I don't EXPECT them to win it but they should be in th convo.

Really depends on whatever QB emerges. I feel like UF, UGA, UT, and South Carolina are mostly even throughout the roster. All have potential at QB but I guess UGA is getting all the picks because of the expected jump of Eason.
 
Michi-Gator said:
Don't even talk like that, if we lose to Michigan and UT at home, shits going to get messy in a hurry
Click to expand...

I think we beat Tenn its just not going to be a cakewalk that they are going to be better than some people think. If we did somehow start 2-2 it would be full meltdown time.
 
oozie7 said:
Am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if South Carolina wins it? I know, I know. But that Bentley kid might be one of the best QB's in the country by the end of the year and Muschamp's defense will be legit as always. I don't EXPECT them to win it but they should be in th convo.

Really depends on whatever QB emerges. I feel like UF, UGA, UT, and South Carolina are mostly even throughout the roster. All have potential at QB but I guess UGA is getting all the picks because of the expected jump of Eason.
Click to expand...

USCe would be my sleeper. Chump is so bad of a gameday coach but I think Roper is the best OC in the East and if no one can emerge they may have enough to win. I think UGa is a sexy pick partly because of Chubb/Michel. If I was betting I would pick us, but I see why people doubt us as our D will fall off a little and Mac nor Nuss has even shown a glimpse of an offense in two years.
 
oozie7 said:
Am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if South Carolina wins it? I know, I know. But that Bentley kid might be one of the best QB's in the country by the end of the year and Muschamp's defense will be legit as always. I don't EXPECT them to win it but they should be in th convo.

Really depends on whatever QB emerges. I feel like UF, UGA, UT, and South Carolina are mostly even throughout the roster. All have potential at QB but I guess UGA is getting all the picks because of the expected jump of Eason.
Click to expand...

I think SC still loses 2 of 3 to UF,TN and GA. Georgia on paper looks to be the most likely winner imo but they play Auburn on the road this year and I highly doubt they win that game.
 
Yea the angle I was looking at it is out of all the OC's in the East I trust Roper the most out of all of them. Their talent level is a notch below UGA, UF, and UT but those three all have issues especially on the oline. I wouldn't be surprised if something like a 3-way tie happened.
 
2016
9-4 UF, 6-2 SECe-C -- Bowl W 30 - 3 Iowa 8-5 (W @ LSU )
9-4 TN, 4-4 SEC ------- Bowl W 38 - 24 Neb 9-4 (W vs UF)
8-5 UG, 4-4 SEC ------ Bowl W 31 - 23 TCU 6-7 (W vs AU)
----
7-6 UK, 4-4 SEC -- Bowl L 18 - 33 GaT (W vs SC)
6-7 SC, 3-5 SEC -- Bowl L 39-46 USF 11-2 (W vs UT)
6-7 VU, 3-5 SEC -- Bowl L 17 - 41 NCSt 7-6 (W vs TN & UG) :eek:
----
4-8 Miz, 2-6 SEC -- Only SECe with no bowl game. (W vs Ark & VU) o_O

2017 SECe is again between UF/UT/GA imo, with the other 4 all being fully capable as 'spoilers.' :confused:
Look at who even the bad teams beat during the season.
VU beat both TN and UG. -- Miz beat both Ark and VU.
UK beat SC, and SC beat TN.... yea-gads.... :oops:

East went 5-9 vs the West, with only TN & Sc losing both games.
1-1 UF won @ LSU, lost @ Ark (both away games)
0-2 TN lost to UA & @ aTm
1-1 UG beat AU, lost @ 5-7 MS
1-1 UK lost @ UA, won vs MsSt
0-2 SC lost @ MsSt and to aTm
1-1 VU lost @ AU but won vs MS
1-1 MZ lost @ LSU but won vs Ark
UA and aTm were the only West teams to go 2-0 vs the East.
So the W is still currently the stronger side, but not by that much. :cool:
 
instaGATOR said:
2016
9-4 UF, 6-2 SECe-C -- Bowl W 30 - 3 Iowa 8-5 (W @ LSU )
9-4 TN, 4-4 SEC ------- Bowl W 38 - 24 Neb 9-4 (W vs UF)
8-5 UG, 4-4 SEC ------ Bowl W 31 - 23 TCU 6-7 (W vs AU)
----
7-6 UK, 4-4 SEC -- Bowl L 18 - 33 GaT (W vs SC)
6-7 SC, 3-5 SEC -- Bowl L 39-46 USF 11-2 (W vs UT)
6-7 VU, 3-5 SEC -- Bowl L 17 - 41 NCSt 7-6 (W vs TN & UG) :eek:
----
4-8 Miz, 2-6 SEC -- Only SECe with no bowl game. (W vs Ark & VU) o_O

2017 SECe is again between UF/UT/GA imo, with the other 4 all being fully capable as 'spoilers.' :confused:
Look at who even the bad teams beat during the season.
VU beat both TN and UG. -- Miz beat both Ark and VU.
UK beat SC, and SC beat TN.... yea-gads.... :oops:

East went 5-9 vs the West, with only TN & Sc losing both games.
1-1 UF won @ LSU, lost @ Ark (both away games)
0-2 TN lost to UA & @ aTm
1-1 UG beat AU, lost @ 5-7 MS
1-1 UK lost @ UA, won vs MsSt
0-2 SC lost @ MsSt and to aTm
1-1 VU lost @ AU but won vs MS
1-1 MZ lost @ LSU but won vs Ark
UA and aTm were the only West teams to go 2-0 vs the East.
So the W is still currently the stronger side, but not by that much. :cool:
Click to expand...

Damn, are we the only ones who didn't beat Arky???
 
Michi-Gator said:
Damn, are we the only ones who didn't beat Arky???
Click to expand...


Well, Ark also lost to: aTm, UA, AU, LSU, Miz, and VaTech in the Belk Bowl.

They beat: 9-5 LaTech, 6-7 TCU, 5-7 MS, 9-4 UF, 6-7 MsSt. (4 bowl teams)

Ark was very erratic in 2016. Like others, injuries played their part.
Consistency was their major problem according to most analysts.
 
oozie7 said:
Am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if South Carolina wins it? I know, I know. But that Bentley kid might be one of the best QB's in the country by the end of the year and Muschamp's defense will be legit as always. I don't EXPECT them to win it but they should be in th convo.

Really depends on whatever QB emerges. I feel like UF, UGA, UT, and South Carolina are mostly even throughout the roster. All have potential at QB but I guess UGA is getting all the picks because of the expected jump of Eason.
Click to expand...
That would be insane if Mus gets to the SECCG with USC, but never did with Florida.

That said, and as homerish as it sounds, sagator'll take UF. Hard to pick against the guy who has done it for 2 straight years and a pretty favorable schedule at home.
 
Dawgs OL and the game day coaching was not very good last year. I really don't see any improvement there and no matter how good the RBs or Q/B is, tough to do anything when you have 3 defenders holding on to you a second after the ball is snapped.


UT's problems were not the offense last year. They scored enough points to have won every game.( except against Alafriggingbama). It was a massive amount of injuries right off the bat on defense that piled up and piled up all season. Along with terrible game day coaching by Lyle and Co.


If history repeats itself, he will likely be gone come January. He did replace part of his coaching staff in the off season so we will see if that has any positive effect.


They do return the entire OL 2 man rotation other than one very good utility man and John Kelly, the third string RB last season still had 98 carries for 640 yds( 6.4 YPC avg) and 5 TDs. The # 4 RB last year was a Florida kid( from Haiti) named Carlin Fils-Amie. He had 14 carries for 58 yds( 4.1 YPC agv.) and 2 TDs..Offense also returns every W/R but one who went early to the NFL Draft. Also returns a very good senior TE who has started every game since setting foot on campus save one out with a shoulder injury) They should be able to move the ball and score a lot of points regardless of who wins the starting Q/B job.



The last two years, a lot of folks expected Lyle to at least win the SECE. He choked. Now with no one expecting him to even break even in the SEC, he might luck up and get his contract extended.


BUTTTT

This is the year we draw both Alabama and LSU as SECW opponents. Lyle has NEVER beaten an SECW oppoonent.

And I don't look for him to end that streak this season
 
UT has the disadvantage of having Bama as their yearly crossover.

And Butch screwed himself when he fired Jancek after Jancek's defenses improved for 3 straight season. Butch needed a scapegoat and that was a big mistake
 
oozie7 said:
Am I the only one that wouldn't be surprised if South Carolina wins it? I know, I know. But that Bentley kid might be one of the best QB's in the country by the end of the year and Muschamp's defense will be legit as always. I don't EXPECT them to win it but they should be in th convo.

Really depends on whatever QB emerges. I feel like UF, UGA, UT, and South Carolina are mostly even throughout the roster. All have potential at QB but I guess UGA is getting all the picks because of the expected jump of Eason.
Click to expand...


sc brings back both their top leading rushers, and their QB has a top target to go to.. They have a good bit on offense for a Muschamp team for Roper to work with, they lost their leading pass rusher off the edge though, but Muschamps D will only get better in year 2 from understanding more of the in depth scheme and be more aggressive with blitzes and better overall as a unit in certain situations...
 
sadgator said:
That would be insane if Mus gets to the SECCG with USC, but never did with Florida.

That said, and as homerish as it sounds, sagator'll take UF. Hard to pick against the guy who has done it for 2 straight years and a pretty favorable schedule at home.
Click to expand...

Well in fairness Muschamp did go 7-1 in SEC play one season and the team we lost to was just a few yards away from winning the SECCG and playing for the national championship.
 
and we lost to them because Driskel played one of the worst games ive ever seen from a QB in a single game, the INT in the endzone with people wide open for 3 seconds before the half legitimately made me wonder if the kid was either actually retarded/brain damaged or paid off to lose on purpose...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gator Fever
found fsu numbers on the series of tubes


@bradleygator @Dannygator1989 @oozie7

DEUH-UKW0AAbsdc.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dannygator1989
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

JasonHigdon

Gator News: Thursday June 29, 2023

Replies
4
Views
1K
The Swamp
JasonHigdon
JasonHigdon
JasonHigdon

Best and Worst of the Weekend:

Replies
0
Views
704
The Swamp
JasonHigdon
JasonHigdon
JasonHigdon

LIVE GAMEDAY THREAD: Eastern Washington @ Florida: What you Need to Know:

Replies
317
Views
17K
The Swamp
Miller11UF
Miller11UF
Franz Beard

Thoughts of the Day: June 14, 2022

Replies
39
Views
1K
The Swamp
Tatton
Tatton
Franz Beard

Thoughts of the Day: June 21, 2022

Replies
30
Views
2K
The Swamp
k5gator
k5gator
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back