Scott Frost is about to go 0-3
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In the third quarter, Michigan had more points than Nebraska had yards. I’m pretty amazed how bad NU has been. That’s probably the most good natured, patient fan base in sports. Good thing.
I think Frost will be fine in the long run. Kelly is the one where a bullet was dodged most likely. Kelly seems to not have passion for his job anymore.
Nebraska got killed at the line of scrimmage in that game.
Nebraska got killed at the line of scrimmage in that game.
The problem for Frost is that this is the type of loss that can kill the spirit of the fans, and the team. Fans are already grumbling, but if he loses the team, he's done.
It wont kill you in year one just like it won't kill Mullen if we have a bad season this year. Year 2 can be another story depending on how bad it looks.
Fans will always be fans however and get their frustration out there.
They had a mess to clean up, Mike Riley is the non douche version of McElwain. No toughness on the lines at all. Terrible Quarterback play, maybe a bit more aerial diversity, but did not inherit the defense that Mac did.
Mullen has actually coached in this conference before, Frost has been a head coach for two years in the American.
I like our hire.
Mullen has actually coached in this conference before, Frost has been a head coach for two years in the American.
I like our hire.
Maybe he shouldn't have demanded to take his tier two coaches with him and hired some better coaching talent.
They look awful.
They look awful.
Fair question. That TE coach, or whatever, was bumping his gums quite a bit at UF for missing out on his coaching expertise. How many yards did the TEs go for against Michigan?
I like Frost and think he’s a good coach but he made an error by bringing his entire coaching staff with him from UCF. For one UCFs defense wasn’t very good last year and he needed an upgrade at some of those defensive staff positions.
I expected Nebraska to at least compete so I’m a little surprised by what is happening. At the same time he took on a challenge. Nebraska isn’t what it used to be
I expected Nebraska to at least compete so I’m a little surprised by what is happening. At the same time he took on a challenge. Nebraska isn’t what it used to be
His staff doesn’t have anything to do with anything, the team just doesn’t have any talent on it. They were 4-8 last year. He had two scholarship QB’s at the end of spring and one transferred before the start of the season, the other is a true freshman who missed the last two games with injury. They had to start a walk-on QB against Troy. It’s not complicated. His UCF team would beat this Nebraska team by 40. He should have never taken that job, it was an emotional choice.
Meh. His staff has a hand in it.
They aren't even competitive and he really does have a defensive coaching problem.
He came in with a ton of hype, fans and team had bought in.
A couple more bad losses and the team will start to quit on him. If that happens, he'll likely never recover.
They weren’t competitive last year. For reference, Minnesota beat them by 35 while scoring 54. Minnesota. That doesn’t get turned around in 3 games.
Any coach
Any competitive coach will take on a challenge, especially at his Alma Mater.
And good coaches can immediately improve bad teams. No one expected Frost to win the NC, but he's clearly under performed so far. If he is as good as a few posters here claimed then he ought to at least flirt with a winning season this year.
Instead, it's beginning to look like he might not win a game. Looks like Frost couldn't make the jump from small ball to the Power 5. Florida was smart to hire a guy with a winning track record in the SEC, and now it's paying off.
Let us know when that hire takes place.
****NEWS FLASH****
33-39 SEC Conference play is not a winning track record.
3-1 is a winning record, but what most of thought would and should be 4-0 at this point with the schedule. We should not have lost to UK. We should not lose to MSU. UGA and I'll flip FSU to a win for the good guys, but LSU might be better than expected. This should have been a 10 win season, not likely after we choked against UK. If Frost had this level of talent and schedule, he would be 4-0. Most coaches would be.
Frost will be fine. He will turn them around, but situationally, Nebraska is not good right now.
We got our guy.
We got our guy.
I like Frost a lot but he is underperforming right now. Listen he made a mistake bringing the entire UCF staff with him. UCF was not good on defense at all. He shouldn’t have brought those guys with him. He’s in a Power 5 Conference now not the American Athletic Conference. He’s gonna have to make some changes on his staff.
So Frost gave the team a PEP TALK after the loss, don't worry boys, this is the bottom, it can't get any worse! http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...nebraska-cornhuskers-reached-bottom-0-3-start
LMAO! Good grief talk about not ready for Prime Time!
LMAO! Good grief talk about not ready for Prime Time!
Their preseason O/U was 5.5, they weren’t projected to make a bowl game. And that was best case scenario. They’ll likely end up right at 4 or 5 wins, not seeing how he’s underachieving. I don’t get the staff angle either, that staff took them from 0-12 to 12-0 in two years, something that’s never been done before. Why aren’t they good enough just because their names aren’t well known to the average fan?
People talk about how bad their defense was at UCF but their best player was a 210 pound LB with one arm, how good were they realistically supposed to be? And his defenses are never gonna be ranked highly anyway because of their playing style. They run a ton of plays offensively every game and score quickly which means their defense is on the field longer and will defend more plays and give up more points. You can’t judge those types of teams by traditional total defense metrics. People are reading way too much into this start. The roster is poor, they have one scholarship QB on the team who is a true freshman, and nobody on the team fits his system on either side of the ball. It’s really that simple.
Here's the recruiting rankings for the last 4 classes Nebraska has signed:
2018 - #21
2017 - #20
2016 - #24
2015 - #31
That's an average of #24. Not bad at all. And FYI, those class rankings are MUCH better than the classes signed by Troy and Colorado, both of who beat Nebraska.
If you want to say Frost doesn't have the talent that fits the schemes he wants to run, I'll buy that argument all day.
What I won't buy is any claim that he has a 'poor' roster and that he doesn't have enough talent on hand to beat Colorado and Troy because that's just not true, he absolutely did.
He should be 2-1 right now, and he shouldn't have lost to Michigan by almost 7 TDs. Yes, he's underachieved so far.
Then why were they 4-8 last year if their classes were so great? Why were they losing to teams like Minnesota by 40 last year if the talent on the team is so good? No different from us under Mac with top 15 classes, yet we have significant talent gaps all over the the roster. Class rankings aren't always an accurate rep for a roster, especially if you don't fill needs. Tennessee for example had a top 5 class a few years ago, and only something like 6 players from that class are even still on the team. But someone who won't look closer will look at their recruiting classes and think they have talent.
When they lost to Troy, they did so with a walk-on QB backed up by another walk-on QB. Mind you this is the same Troy that went into LSU and beat them last year handily and finished 11-2. And that LSU team had a host of NFL draft picks including the best LB and cornerback in the country this year. Troy is straight up better than Nebraska, but recruiting rankings say Nebraska has more talent I guess.
McElwain's two full classes here averaged out to 11th in the country. Do you think we're just outside the top 10 in the country in terms of talent? That's where recruiting rankings say we should be. Never mind most of the players in those classes have proven not to be very good, and that's not even counting the amount who have transferred. So if Mullen doesn't have us finish just outside the top 10 this year I guess we'll say he underachieved too. Because recruiting rankings.
I suspect Mike Riley didn't do his job as a coach. I suspect that's why he was fired.
I'm not arguing that Frost has all-world talent at Nebraska, I'm disagreeing with your claims that his roster is 'poor' and that he hasn't underachieved so far.
If Mullen was 0-3 right now, I'd have no problem saying he had underachieved so far.
Riley for all his faults rebuilt Oregon St. and has been an NFL head coach twice, it isn't all coaching. The roster is poor, if it weren't, they wouldn't have been 4-8 getting blown out by the likes of Minnesota. We just disagree, no big deal. Colorado was 5-7 last year, Nebraska was 4-8. Colorado is in like year 5 of their coach, while it was the first game for Frost with his team. A close loss there is not unexpected or indicative of some poor coaching job. And Troy is better than Nebraska, especially when Nebraska had to resort to playing a walk-on QB that had never taken a snap in that game. Troy beat a far superior LSU team at LSU just last year. None of those losses are unexpected or indicative of much. People seem to think coaches are magicians.
We can just agree to disagree. I never said Frost wasn’t a good coach. I think he’s a very good coach but even very good coaches stil need to have a good coaching staff. He made some errors in putting together is coaching staff at Nebraska. Coaching in the AAC isn’t the same as coaching in the Big 10. Not even close.
You say UCFs defense didn’t have much talent but that is all relative. They had more talent on their defense than anybody else in the AAC. To be honest it is much easier to win at UCF than Nebraska. For one UCF is in an easier conference and it has by far the best facilities in that conference and the best recruiting base in that conference. It’s going to be much harder at Nebraska.
If Frost can’t turn around Nebraska then I’m not sure many can because he’s “all in” and he can coach. But will Husker fans be patient.
Before Nebraska played a single snap under Frost, the story came out that supposedly, Frost turned down the Florida job because he demanded that he be able to bring his entire staff over from UCF.
I said right then that that was a warning sign. Too loyal to his assistants (something I'm not sure I've ever seen them out well) and secondly, that guys that are coaching at mid-tier schools like that aren't necessarily ready or capable of coaching at a much higher level.
We'll see how this all turns out but it feels like a dodged bullet right now.
Yes, they weren't a good team last year, but they also look, as a team and a staff, entirely in over their heads.
I said right then that that was a warning sign. Too loyal to his assistants (something I'm not sure I've ever seen them out well) and secondly, that guys that are coaching at mid-tier schools like that aren't necessarily ready or capable of coaching at a much higher level.
We'll see how this all turns out but it feels like a dodged bullet right now.
Yes, they weren't a good team last year, but they also look, as a team and a staff, entirely in over their heads.
Hey GhostOfBrainless, Charlie Pell won a NC at Clemp's-son, then took the UF job and immediately went 0-10-1.
Proved beyond any doubt that Pell would never be a good HC...
My mistake, you are correct.
Championships
Mid-South Conference (1970)
Atlantic Coast Conference (1978) -- Not the NC...
Awards
ACC Coach of the Year (1977, 1978)
However, 7 Organization Awarded him the NC at UF, and he won UF's first SEC-C, before it was stolen by vote after the season by schools that had done worse for many years in getting their NC's. Such is life. Going on memory here, but I believe that Bama was one of the schools that voted against stripping the SEC-C, while UcheaT voted for it...
Anywho, the 0-10-1 point remains the same...
Anywho, the 0-10-1 point remains the same...
Pell won 0 games his first season, and 9 his second.
He immediately improved Florida.
Stick to cutting and pasting and fake-ignoring Danny.
0-10-1, as I was there watching the games, unlike a Red-Turd like you.
Just like I was there to a decade later to watch your turds be shutout 0-35 to the Gators.
Naw, but you can just stick it...
And do try to keep up, I've posted that everybody is off ignore for now. I'm in the mood for some bitch-slappin' and you're prominent on that list of bitches that need slappin'.
