Saban telling top recruits to come to Bama if they want the big bucks...

[Gator Fever]

Nick Saban's million-dollar remark about Bryce Young again proves the unmatched savvy of Alabama's coach

Saban's suggestion that Young has nearly earned $1 million from name, image and likeness endorsements made all the right headlines

www.cbssports.com

But it sends the message that it's possible at Alabama. Actually, it sends the message that anything is possible...

In the short three weeks that NIL benefits have been allowed, Saban has scanned the country and acknowledge the competition....

"All we've done is create an opportunity for our players to work," Saban said....

With a couple of sentences, Saban wooed the overseers of Texas high school talent more than every Texas Longhorns coach since Mack Brown left in 2013. And if you have the Texas high school coaches in your hip pocket, you've got a chance to do some good things.
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I think the Bama QBs deals are mostly non-booster related but we know what is coming at some of these schools.

I hope we aren't playing 2nd fiddle to teams like Bama, Georgia and LSU etc. with the new environment making payoffs legal basically. They were already doing it but this simplifies things for them now. I guess we better hope our big boosters are ready to step up. I just wonder if we have as many hard core ones as those schools now seeing what UF has become. I suspect a lot of our rich alumni now are more in the mold of schools like UCLA etc. and not huge football fans.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Nick Saban's million-dollar remark about Bryce Young again proves the unmatched savvy of Alabama's coach

Saban's suggestion that Young has nearly earned $1 million from name, image and likeness endorsements made all the right headlines

www.cbssports.com

But it sends the message that it's possible at Alabama. Actually, it sends the message that anything is possible...

In the short three weeks that NIL benefits have been allowed, Saban has scanned the country and acknowledge the competition....

"All we've done is create an opportunity for our players to work," Saban said....

With a couple of sentences, Saban wooed the overseers of Texas high school talent more than every Texas Longhorns coach since Mack Brown left in 2013. And if you have the Texas high school coaches in your hip pocket, you've got a chance to do some good things.
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I think the Bama QBs deals are mostly non-booster related but we know what is coming at some of these schools.

I hope we aren't playing 2nd fiddle to teams like Bama, Georgia and LSU etc. with the new environment making payoffs legal basically. They were already doing it but this simplifies things for them now. I guess we better hope our big boosters are ready to step up. I just wonder if we have as many hard core ones as those schools now seeing what UF has become. I suspect a lot of our rich alumni now are more in the mold of schools like UCLA etc. and not huge football fans.

NIL isn't about boosters. We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg right now, but athletes are signing endorsement deals, and lots more are making money on instagram and other platforms.

I do expect that at some point there will be a setup where every player gets a minimal amount of money (5-10k) but the big dollars are going to be for the stars, which is going to end the monopoly on some teams getting all the best players. It'll be "you can go to Bama and sit in obscurity for a couple of years before you get a chance to play, or come here and be a big name right away and get that NIL money right away, because it take playing time to generate buzz and it take buzz to generate $$$".

One thing the NIL is going to do is depress the illegal payments, because you tell parents "be careful about booster payments, if your kid gets caught it will ruin his NIL because nobody is going to be in partnership with a known cheater, which will follow him into the NFL/NBA". When parents realize the potential risk of the illegal payments, they will push their kids another direction. Besides, if the alumni start funneling their slush money into NIL, there won't be nearly as much money available for under the table payments. After all, why pay under the table when you can pay over the table?

 

[LizardGrad89]

You want to know what the NIL is going to do? It's going to put a lot of money in the pocket of these young ladies right here, the Cavinder twins. This is the new face of college athletics.

 

[Gator Fever]

NIL isn't about boosters. We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg right now, but athletes are signing endorsement deals, and lots more are making money on instagram and other platforms.

I do expect that at some point there will be a setup where every player gets a minimal amount of money (5-10k) but the big dollars are going to be for the stars, which is going to end the monopoly on some teams getting all the best players. It'll be "you can go to Bama and sit in obscurity for a couple of years before you get a chance to play, or come here and be a big name right away and get that NIL money right away, because it take playing time to generate buzz and it take buzz to generate $$$".

One thing the NIL is going to do is depress the illegal payments, because you tell parents "be careful about booster payments, if your kid gets caught it will ruin his NIL because nobody is going to be in partnership with a known cheater, which will follow him into the NFL/NBA". When parents realize the potential risk of the illegal payments, they will push their kids another direction. Besides, if the alumni start funneling their slush money into NIL, there won't be nearly as much money available for under the table payments. After all, why pay under the table when you can pay over the table?

I think it will become a roundabout way for big boosters to promise money to recruits they desire. They can easily do deals behind the scenes or themselves to get businesses to overcompensate players. No reason to do it illegally now as this legalizes payments and you better pay above real market value if you want the very top recruits.

Anyone know what UF players have gotten so far? My guess is its not much compared to Bama players.

In the next few years you will start seeing freshman that don't even start getting nice deals at schools like Bama, LSU and Georgia etc. Not sure if we will be up to the task here due to our changing alumni base. We would have been up to the task some years ago.

 

[PacoGator19]

I think it will be about boosters very much. Many boosters also own businesses, etc.

 

[Dannygator1989]

I think it will be about boosters very much. Many boosters also own businesses, etc.

unless the numbers have changed in the last decade, I believe the NCAA considers anyone who do yes $500+ a year to the school as a booster.

that's a crazy low threshold.

 

[Gator Fever]

 

[instaGATOR]

Bama has been paying players, in one way or another, for decades.

Now it just becomes easier to do, with less chance of being caught out of line while doing it.

What used to be college armature sports, is fast becoming paid semi-pro sports, so I'm on the way out as a fan.

 

[PacoGator19]

The Bryce Young NIL deal is insane and I tend to agree with David Shaw.

 

[Gator Fever]

The Bryce Young NIL deal is insane and I tend to agree with David Shaw.

Haven't really looked at his deals but at least with him they know he will get a lot of exposure in the media being the starting QB on that team. I think I saw where that top QB prospect going to OSU said he is going to get there as soon as possible to sign some deals he has awaiting him. With how many QB busts there are he could possibly end up getting paid for nothing.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Haven't really looked at his deals but at least with him they know he will get a lot of exposure in the media being the starting QB on that team. I think I saw where that top QB prospect going to OSU said he is going to get there as soon as possible to sign some deals he has awaiting him. With how many QB busts there are he could possibly end up getting paid for nothing.

Soon High Schoolers will be able to do the same. The thing that has made pay for play proliferate is the number of kids from poor families for whom a few thousand dollars makes a huge difference. But if these kids are already pulling 5 figures in high school the family need won't be so stringent.

All I'm saying is this changes the game. We used to have a system where some schools would be hammered for doing 1/10th what other schools did without repercussions. With the playing field levelling out, the grasp of the elite few will falter.

 

[Gator Fever]

Soon High Schoolers will be able to do the same. The thing that has made pay for play proliferate is the number of kids from poor families for whom a few thousand dollars makes a huge difference. But if these kids are already pulling 5 figures in high school the family need won't be so stringent.

All I'm saying is this changes the game. We used to have a system where some schools would be hammered for doing 1/10th what other schools did without repercussions. With the playing field levelling out, the grasp of the elite few will falter.

I see your points but I think at most it stays the same as the biggest cheaters should still lead on the money front big time I would think. Maybe I am being paranoid but I think it will make it harder for us to get back recruiting like we did under Meyer.

Just curious what teams do you think can close the gap with the top recruiting schools because of this?

Its going to be telling what happens with the top recruits in the upcoming classes for 2022. And the 2023 classes will especially be telling what is going to happen.

 

[LizardGrad89]

I see your points but I think at most it stays the same as the biggest cheaters should still lead on the money front big time I would think. Maybe I am being paranoid but I think it will make it harder for us to get back recruiting like we did under Meyer.

Just curious what teams do you think can close the gap with the top recruiting schools because of this?

Its going to be telling what happens with the top recruits in the upcoming classes for 2022. And the 2023 classes will especially be telling what is going to happen.

Schools in or near metropolitan areas, as that's where the large advertising firms are. Might mean more for basketball than football. But USC and UCLA should make bank. Being in a movie is an NIL. Think about that as a recruiting tool.

But it's going to take time for these things to shake out. The current classes are already pretty set.

 

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Nick Saban's million-dollar remark about Bryce Young again proves the unmatched savvy of Alabama's coach

Saban's suggestion that Young has nearly earned $1 million from name, image and likeness endorsements made all the right headlines

www.cbssports.com

But it sends the message that it's possible at Alabama. Actually, it sends the message that anything is possible...

In the short three weeks that NIL benefits have been allowed, Saban has scanned the country and acknowledge the competition....

"All we've done is create an opportunity for our players to work," Saban said....

With a couple of sentences, Saban wooed the overseers of Texas high school talent more than every Texas Longhorns coach since Mack Brown left in 2013. And if you have the Texas high school coaches in your hip pocket, you've got a chance to do some good things.
----------------------------

I think the Bama QBs deals are mostly non-booster related but we know what is coming at some of these schools.

I hope we aren't playing 2nd fiddle to teams like Bama, Georgia and LSU etc. with the new environment making payoffs legal basically. They were already doing it but this simplifies things for them now. I guess we better hope our big boosters are ready to step up. I just wonder if we have as many hard core ones as those schools now seeing what UF has become. I suspect a lot of our rich alumni now are more in the mold of schools like UCLA etc. and not huge football fans.

So what else is new? Coaches have been telling players for years to come to their school if they want big bucks.
Cars, spending allowances, women, no-show part time jobs, etc. All this amounts to is the powers that be throwing in the towel and accepting the fact of what has been going on all along. The real change is that the payoffs have gone from the thousands to the millions.

 

[Gator Fever]

So what else is new? Coaches have been telling players for years to come to their school if they want big bucks.
Cars, spending allowances, women, no-show part time jobs, etc. All this amounts to is the powers that be throwing in the towel and accepting the fact of what has been going on all along. The real change is that the payoffs have gone from the thousands to the millions.

Yep that Supreme Court ruling just rubberstamped it now. Really curious to see what the 2023 classes look like once this has time to be really set up for the schools.

I disagree with LizardGrad89 (though USC may have quite a few boosters willing to pony up) as I don't think businesses in those areas will way overpay the players for their likeness and I don't think they have the super passionate rich football boosters like many of the SEC schools do and maybe schools like OSU etc. We used to could match schools like Bama and them with our passionate boosters willing to do what it takes but I think over the years our schools crazy rich graduates now aren't huge football fans like the older ones were.

Its the very top high school recruits where I think you might see the most funny business going on where they haven't even proven they can play good past the high school level. I guess my prediction is the top 10 classes will still be the usual characters you have seen the past few years with us around the bottom part of it.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Yep that Supreme Court ruling just rubberstamped it now. Really curious to see what the 2023 classes look like once this has time to be really set up for the schools.

I disagree with LizardGrad89 (though USC may have quite a few boosters willing to pony up) as I don't think businesses in those areas will way overpay the players for their likeness and I don't think they have the super passionate rich football boosters like many of the SEC schools do and maybe schools like OSU etc. We used to could match schools like Bama and them with our passionate boosters willing to do what it takes but I think over the years our schools crazy rich graduates now aren't huge football fans like the older ones were.

Its the very top high school recruits where I think you might see the most funny business going on where they haven't even proven they can play good past the high school level. I guess my prediction is the top 10 classes will still be the usual characters you have seen the past few years with us around the bottom part of it.

I just think that the lure of being in movies will make a difference.

 

[Voxvertis]

We used to could match schools like Bama and them with our passionate boosters willing to do what it takes but I think over the years our schools crazy rich graduates now aren't huge football fans like the older ones were.


That was back in the day of when the MNC ran through Florida: When UF, FSU, or Miami appeared to have the inside track. When the whole nation awaited the annual showdown of Bobby vrs Steve. When Saban, Meyer, Dabo, Jimbo and Stoops were just some obscure figures struggling to support a family. Oh those were the days my friend, those really were the days! Now we get Danny Boy vrs FSU's "Novel" Mikey for a game that really means squat. At best a shot at a New Year's Day bowl game; at worse it's "Wait 'til Next year!"

 

[Gator Fever]

Speaking of older times not sure if Miami has enough boosters willing to do it but with so many top players coming from that area they could really move up in this new system. I doubt it helps FSU much however.

 

[smac96]

Nick Saban's million-dollar remark about Bryce Young again proves the unmatched savvy of Alabama's coach

Saban's suggestion that Young has nearly earned $1 million from name, image and likeness endorsements made all the right headlines

www.cbssports.com

But it sends the message that it's possible at Alabama. Actually, it sends the message that anything is possible...

In the short three weeks that NIL benefits have been allowed, Saban has scanned the country and acknowledge the competition....

"All we've done is create an opportunity for our players to work," Saban said....

With a couple of sentences, Saban wooed the overseers of Texas high school talent more than every Texas Longhorns coach since Mack Brown left in 2013. And if you have the Texas high school coaches in your hip pocket, you've got a chance to do some good things.
----------------------------

I think the Bama QBs deals are mostly non-booster related but we know what is coming at some of these schools.

I hope we aren't playing 2nd fiddle to teams like Bama, Georgia and LSU etc. with the new environment making payoffs legal basically. They were already doing it but this simplifies things for them now. I guess we better hope our big boosters are ready to step up. I just wonder if we have as many hard core ones as those schools now seeing what UF has become. I suspect a lot of our rich alumni now are more in the mold of schools like UCLA etc. and not huge football fans.

He's been telling them this the duration of his career........

 

[GordonGecko]

Saban is telling the truth. :\