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Really is no reason IMO. It's kinda like when a terrorist attack happens you see everybody post a "pray for (insert whoever here" profile pic for a few weeks then they move on about their lives like it never happened. People just want to say they're a part of something and give the appearance they're making a difference even if they aren't actually doing anything. I mean they're literally sitting and acting like they're making change lol.
The only ones I have respect for are people like Michael Bennett who actually put his money where his mouth is. He's used millions of his own money to carry out different projects in inner cities, send kids to college, etc. The rest are just grandstanding.
The only ones I have respect for are people like Michael Bennett who actually put his money where his mouth is. He's used millions of his own money to carry out different projects in inner cities, send kids to college, etc. The rest are just grandstanding.
Yeah but what is the "look" they are wanting? Is it because of supposed police brutality towards blacks and the ongoing suppression they face? I believe that is what Kap based his stance on. Are all the other athletes following suit for the same reasoning?
Oozie, kudos to MB for doing such a thing. Kind of adds to my questioning about all of this.
Oozie, kudos to MB for doing such a thing. Kind of adds to my questioning about all of this.
I think this is it, yes. I think Trump's election and Charlottesville are adding fuel to the fire now. When you see a third of the Cleveland Browns kneeling, and the way this is spreading, you start to get the idea of why owners were so afraid of Kaepernick. I think they were hoping to nip this in the bud, but I don't think that's going to happen. People debated how much of an impact signing Kaepernick would have with sponsors, but team-wide protests of the national anthem is an absolute nightmare for the league.
I don't think most of them know tbh. And I think that goes for all the players participating, black and white. For example I can't remember who (think it was Shannon Sharpe) but when they asked him what it meant to him that David Carr supported his teammate to show that white players and black players support each other he said it didn't mean anything to him. His point was it isn't anything new, sports transcends race like that ANYWAY, you're a brotherhood. Them sitting together isn't some sign that black players and white players can get along, black players and white players have always gotten along lol. The whole thing has just become stupid and lost meaning at this point.
I think this thing is just getting started. Maybe the spike in the players sitting is just flavor of the week response to Charlottesville, but it will be interesting if this picks up steam to see if the league responds.
I think it's just getting started too, but at least to me none of it has any meaning at this point. Seems like most are just doing it to be doing something without thinking about why they're doing it or what exactly they're gonna change. I'm sorry but I can't respect literally just sitting down and then acting like you're doing something.
Now somebody like Michael Bennett? I'd listen to his concerns, he's putting his money where his mouth is. Marshawn Lynch? Same thing, he's in Oakland's inner city spending big money. The rest are mostly just doing it because its fashionable.
Add Anquan Boldin to the list. He never protested the anthem but he's been out making a difference for years. Apparently he had a cousin killed by a cop, he quit football and gave up millions because he feels like he has a higher calling at this point in his life. Stuff like that I can respect even if I might no cosign their views.
I don't know either.
I would suggest to these folks to take a visit to the beaches of Normandy the next time they don't feel like standing for the anthem.
Some are probably doing it without much thought. I respect the ones who are doing it with some commitment, because they are putting something at risk. The "first white protestor" is a third string tight end. He legitimately might be putting his career at risk. I respect anyone who puts their time or money to improving other people's lives, but I don't think it's a prerequisite to a valid protest. Generally speaking, I like protest, even if it's not that well thought out or coherent, because I think there's plenty to be pissed off about, but a lot of it is pretty complicated, and there is a lot of propaganda flying around on all sides. It will be interesting to see if these preseason protests carry over into the regular season. And it will be interesting to see the reaction if some of these guys kneeling are cut.
Agree and disagree. Mainly because I don't think he thinks everything through.
For example he talks about how the majority of black homicides are black-on-black. So what? It makes no sense to compare that to police shooting of blacks because police are there to protect and serve, some gang member in the hood isn't. That's why there's more outrage towards one type of violence vs. another. Plus, I don't think the 'black-on-black' thing has much meaning, that's basic sociology. Intergroup violence is the most common type of violence there is. Why? Because that's who you live amongst, it's the same for every single race on this planet. Whites are primarily killed by whites too, doesn't mean anything. Then throw in the fact that when a black kid kills another black kid in the hood, he's getting the book thrown at him. If he for some reason doesn't get the book thrown at him through the justice system, the element of street justice takes care of the rest. There's always accountability there, you could argue whether there is or isn't accountability when a white cop shoots up some unarmed person...black or white. Hell the most extreme case I've seen is from that white kid who got shot up in Fresno I think it was. It isn't a color thing, it's a government abuse of power thing.
Where I agree with him though is that politicians and the media play both sides and use their agendas to incite people. Look at the majority of these protests...ANTIFA, the situation in Charlotte, even the BLM rallies...they're filled with white liberals. Pretty sure earlier this year and last year they proved that a lot of these 'incidents' were hoaxes carried out by white people, they've found white people in ski masks at BLM rallies inciting violence, yet all these movements get branded as black-led. How or why? Think about it.
Great points. Also respect those doing it with risk. I wasn't meaning to say they had to spend money to have a valid protest, was just highlighting how some players were taking steps to create change even before any of this kneeling stuff got any publicity. To me if you're serious you're doing SOMETHING to create change other than just taking a knee, it's kind of an empty protest. That said, I don't mind a good protest either. Just know what it is you're standing for outside of the propaganda.
I had a black friend of mine on FB say he was boycotting the NFL until Kap was signed. I have a fair amount of black friends but being he is black he most certainly has more. I was amazed by of the follow-up comments. I asked...where is the outrage for Tebow? Here is a response from a guy I don't know but the friend of mine does...
serious question. Why do whites always find shit funny to say when blacks are being attacked? You mother****ers. Believe that.
It can be said Tim has been kept out of the league due to his religion and the media circus he brings. Right? Should people be taking a knee for Tim? Again, I don't think people know why the protest is occulting including those conducting the protest. I also think the FB poster quoted above is as much of the problem as anyone. He clearly has a ton of pent up hate.
serious question. Why do whites always find shit funny to say when blacks are being attacked? You mother****ers. Believe that.
It can be said Tim has been kept out of the league due to his religion and the media circus he brings. Right? Should people be taking a knee for Tim? Again, I don't think people know why the protest is occulting including those conducting the protest. I also think the FB poster quoted above is as much of the problem as anyone. He clearly has a ton of pent up hate.
I learned a long time ago people are stupid, it ain't race specific. Ignore and keep it moving. I agree on you with Tim too, he was obviously black balled from the league and to me that's much worse because he was 'too preachy' but so it goes. If I boycott the NFL it'll be because it's boring as hell, I gave up trying to take moral stands when it comes to entertainment. It's a lost cause.
Because of one simple word "Pressure"!!! The media outlets are the flaming the fire, I quit watching all of them some months ago and only watch them when there is a game on. The media is the worse enemy of the United States!!!
If im a player on their team. I fight them in the middle of the anthem if they dont stand. Kneel and pray, u get a cleat to the back of the head
Racism is damn sure getting out of hand.
I think that the NFL roster personal should reflect the race population in the general public. From now on, at least 48% of the NFL players will need to be white men, otherwise it is obvious race discrimination against the white's....
PS
The same goes for the Gator's football team...
I think that the NFL roster personal should reflect the race population in the general public. From now on, at least 48% of the NFL players will need to be white men, otherwise it is obvious race discrimination against the white's....
PS
The same goes for the Gator's football team...
Racism is damn sure getting out of hand.
I think that the NFL roster personal should reflect the race population in the general public. From now on, at least 48% of the NFL players will need to be white men, otherwise it is obvious race discrimination against the white's....
PS
The same goes for the Gator's football team...
Its getting out of hand. We need a reverse rooney rule on all Running back positions
