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KABOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you read the article, which I realize you don't have the attention span for so I will summarize, Dershowitz says he has a Form 302 in his possession which establishes that Obama directed the FBI to investigate somebody at George Soros' direction. Form 302s summarize investigation interviews. So according to Dershowitz, the lead interview established that the investigation was directed by the President at the direction of a donor?

Dershowitz does not say who the target of the investigation was. And he says that his allegation will be the subject of a "civil" lawsuit, to be filed "at some point in the future."

Ka.... boom?

As far as him leaving the Democratic party, that's the first good news they've gotten in months.
 
So would that be Quid Pro Quo or Pay for Play, in your mind?

Either one is KABOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, the reason I brought up the Form 302 is that it would surprise me "bigly," to use the preferred term of Trump legal analysts, that an interview conducted by an FBI agent would conclusively establish that: (1) the president initiated the investigation; and (2) that it was at the direction of a major donor. Who would have that information and be credible enough to establish that just by speaking it? And if it were credibly established, why is it going to be introduced in speculative civil litigation as opposed to forming the basis of criminal prosecution by the Trump controlled DOJ?

But I know, storm coming, reap the whirlwind, etc... etc...
 
Actually, the reason I brought up...

Again.....a billionaire donor tells the President to use the FBI to investigate someone.

Is that quid pro quo or Pay for Play in your mind?

Now imagine if Peter Thiel told Trump to launch an FBI investigation into someone...and Trump did it.

Does @bradleygator blow it off as being a nothingburger?

Remember....you guys said 'bust all the monsters'. But you said it when you thought Trump was gonna get taken down by epstein.

What changed?
 
Again.....a billionaire donor tells the President to use the FBI to investigate someone.

Is that quid pro quo or Pay for Play in your mind?

Now imagine if Peter Thiel told Trump to launch an FBI investigation into someone...and Trump did it.

Does @bradleygator blow it off as being a nothingburger?

Remember....you guys said 'bust all the monsters'. But you said it when you thought Trump was gonna get taken down by epstein.

What changed?

Well I never said any of that, but I know your arguments only work as counters to arguments that you also invent, so carry on.

As far as Obama using the FBI to investigate someone at a donor's direction, I wouldn't have a problem with both facing whatever punishment the law describes for the circumstances. But my point is that there is currently no credible evidence that that occurred.
 
Well I never said any of that, but I know your arguments only work as counters to arguments that you also invent, so carry on.

As far as Obama using the FBI to investigate someone at a donor's direction, I wouldn't have a problem with both facing whatever punishment the law describes for the circumstances. But my point is that there is currently no credible evidence that that occurred.

Where was this 'let's wait and see what the facts are' thinking in the epstein case? You had Trump convicted of being a fellow pedophile as soon as it was announced.

You are being mocked for your hypocrisy.
 
Being mocked by a dullard doesn't bother me.

Now you know why you (a hillary and obama voter) claiming Trump supporters are morons, doesn't bother us.

Doesn't matter if it bothers you or not, you are totally being a hypocrite here because it's dems. And if Dershowitz had a history of making false claims, I wouldn't give this the time of day.

Because I don't like looking like a hypocrite. You apparently don't care. All good, gives us more to mock.
 
As far as the Epstein comparison, I personally think it's highly likely that both Clinton and Trump engaged with Epstein's network of underage sex slaves based on the following established facts: (1) both are entitled, powerful men and acknowledged horn dogs; (2) both were close acquaintances with Epstein; (3) engaging with powerful, entitled horndogs and hooking them up with underrage sex slaves for low-key blackmail purposes seems to have been Epstein's business model, and he seems to have been pretty good at it.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't advocate either Trump or Clinton going to jail without due process. And I certainly wouldn't advocate any kind of consequences flowing from unsworn statements coming from Alan Dershowitz, who by the way is also a likely underrage whoremonger.
 
As far as the Epstein comparison, I personally think it's highly likely that both Clinton and Trump engaged with Epstein's network of underage sex slaves based on the following established facts: (1) both are entitled, powerful men and acknowledged horn dogs; (2) both were close acquaintances with Epstein; (3) engaging with powerful, entitled horndogs and hooking them up with underrage sex slaves for low-key blackmail purposes seems to have been Epstein's business model, and he seems to have been pretty good at it.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't advocate either Trump or Clinton going to jail without due process. And I certainly wouldn't advocate any kind of consequences flowing from unsworn statements coming from Alan Dershowitz, who by the way is also a likely underrage whoremonger.

What facts can you produce that prove that Dershowitz isn't credible and that his claims shouldn't be considered?

Hint: Facts would include things like any former claims he has made that were later disproven. Your 'feelings' are not facts.

Now give us the list of past claims that Dershowitz has made that have been disproven:
 
Ghost’s kaboom...

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wake us up when something actually comes...
 
What facts can you produce that prove that Dershowitz isn't credible and that his claims shouldn't be considered?

Hint: Facts would include things like any former claims he has made that were later disproven. Your 'feelings' are not facts.

Now give us the list of past claims that Dershowitz has made that have been disproven:

I'm fine with his allegations being considered. And if he ever files his civil case, it will get all due consideration. As I said above, the fact that he is claiming to have proof of a huge Dem donor directing FBI investigations, but that the allegations will (supposedly) be brought in civil litigation as opposed to being prosecuted by the Trump controlled DOJ, leads me to believe that the allegations aren't as clear-cut as Dershowitz claims.

This may come as a shock to you, but lawyers tend to shade facts in their favor.
 
I'm fine with his allegations being considered. And if he ever files his civil case, it will get all due consideration. As I said above, the fact that he is claiming to have proof of a huge Dem donor directing FBI investigations, but that the allegations will (supposedly) be brought in civil litigation as opposed to being prosecuted by the Trump controlled DOJ, leads me to believe that the allegations aren't as clear-cut as Dershowitz claims.

This may come as a shock to you, but lawyers tend to shade facts in their favor.

Aren't you a lawyer? When's the last time you let facts here guide your conclusions?
 
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Dershowitz contributed to and voted for the "smartest" woman in the world. Remember when Dershowitz was a regular old Democrat. Now Dershowitz is an extreme right radical to the AOC squad controlled Socialist Party.
 
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Dershowitz contributed to and voted for the "smartest" woman in the world. Remember when Dershowitz was a regular old Democrat. Now Dershowitz is an extreme right radical to the AOC squad controlled Socialist Party.

Dershowitz is about as center as you can get. He is a critical thinker, he hears both sides, investigates for himself, then makes an informed decision. Which is a big reason why the dems hate and fear him.
 
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