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Jerk!

Not sure how that makes dad a "jerk." If you meant Johnny, then I agree. If you were referring to his dad, I diaagree. Have you ever dealt with an addict? I have for 22 years. Unfortunately, dad's comments are right on point. Says he and the family have tried everything and that he will help when/if his son wants it. That's all you can offer an addict.
 
Not sure how that makes dad a "jerk." If you meant Johnny, then I agree. If you were referring to his dad, I diaagree. Have you ever dealt with an addict? I have for 22 years. Unfortunately, dad's comments are right on point. Says he and the family have tried everything and that he will help when/if his son wants it. That's all you can offer an addict.
I meant the Jerk not the dad.
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Not sure how that makes dad a "jerk." If you meant Johnny, then I agree. If you were referring to his dad, I diaagree. Have you ever dealt with an addict? I have for 22 years. Unfortunately, dad's comments are right on point. Says he and the family have tried everything and that he will help when/if his son wants it. That's all you can offer an addict.

The child would not be behaving in this fashion if the parents had done their job. They are both jerks.
 
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The child would not be behaving in this fashion if the parents had done their job. They are both jerks.

while it's possible that they are both jerks, the fact that the son is an addict isn't really evidence of the parents "not doing their job." I know far too many families - including my own - where one sibling has addiction issues but none of the other siblings share that problem, despite being raised in the same house, by the same parents, with the same set of rules & expectations.
 
while it's possible that they are both jerks, the fact that the son is an addict isn't really evidence of the parents "not doing their job." I know far too many families - including my own - where one sibling has addiction issues but none of the other siblings share that problem, despite being raised in the same house, by the same parents, with the same set of rules & expectations.


Exactly. It's always easy to blame the parents and not the addict. Sometimes parents do all they can do but an addict is an addict due to their own choices.
 
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while it's possible that they are both jerks, the fact that the son is an addict isn't really evidence of the parents "not doing their job." I know far too many families - including my own - where one sibling has addiction issues but none of the other siblings share that problem, despite being raised in the same house, by the same parents, with the same set of rules & expectations.

There was an article written about Manziel while he was in college. The author stayed with Manziel for a number of days. At one point in the article Manziel calls his sister to ask how to make a box of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese.

Think about that. A kid in his 20's chose not to read the very plain and easy to follow directions on the box. He chose instead to basically ask someone else to do it for him.

While Manziel was in college his father hired a friend to be Manziel's "manager". He would make sure the bills got paid, Manziel got where he was supposed to be when he was supposed to be there, etc.

Manziel was never expected to be responsible for himself. His parents handicapped him by allowing him to live in a world where he did not have to make decisions and he was never responsible for bad choices. He never grew up because others did everything for him. He missed that point in life where you learn that you are responsible for your decisions and that bad consequences usually follow bad decisions.

I wasn't making a blanket statement about all parents of addicts. I was speaking specifically about Manziel's parents.
 
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